Why I think Aulani point charts is going to approximately mirror VGC

[booger73]

1) Newest resort obviously, so it has to mirror the latest somewhat

2) You don't want to go 'too much higher' given current economy, interest in DVC, and the changes we had from SSR->BLT->VGC were not 'huge jumps' in $ per point, but instead point/room

3) They want people to actually 'use' their points and go there so you can't 'out-point' too many people - they want to encourage add ons

4) More east coast > west coast means it's usually once/twice in a lifetime trip - Disney is smart enough not to 'out-point' too many people - it may cost you 2-3 years of points, but not outrageous

5) Marriott Ko'Olina which is *right next door* goes for.. (I put in 7/18-7/25 for example, for a 2-bedroom, ocean view) at $563/night - most people would say that's appx 56 points (but it's actually more, because you haven't included tax/etc that we don't pay as dvc.. so, appx 4.7% excise tax, 9.25% transient tax puts you really at ~$650+) I like round numbers, Disney likes to mark it up, so call it 70 points a night. Times a week = at least ~490. Look at VGC chart for 2011, 2 bedroom, magic season, it's 526.
It's going to be right around that number.. otherwise why not stay at the Marriott too huh?

So I say, study those VGC charts if you're planning a 2011-2012 trip to Hawaii for the family and start saving

 

[Garthilk]

Hmm,

We shall see. I think they may need to lower it some. DVC is land based. People can drive down for reletively low cost. On the other hand, flying to Hawaii is an added expense anyone visiting the island is going to have to consider. Very few families of 5 or 6 are going to fly out from the east coast.

From the West Coast
Generally $300 to $450 for one round trip ticket in winter and off-season, so for two tickets you would pay $600 to $900. Prices will go up to $500 to $650 ($1000 – $1300 for two tickets) in the summer and around holidays.

From Middle America
Price to Hawaii from the central mainland U.S.: Tickets will start at $600 apiece generally in the winter and offseason and hopefully won’t go up past $750. In the summer and peak season you could pay as much as $850 to $1200 per ticket.

From East Coast
Airline ticket prices from the east coast: Expect to pay $850 apiece as your cheapest price in the winter and the offseason. In July, if you book early, you may still be able to find some $850 rates, but if you don’t, you could pay $1500 easy. Or $3000 for a couple.

 

[Tara]

But they're also building a sales center at Tokyo DL and Hawaii is a hugely popular destination for Japanese and other Asian travelers. I think what we're seeing is the first real push to expand the ownership base more significantly to one that is global in nature (or at least a higher percentage of owners outside the US). I think to look at it in terms of US travelers is misleading. (And I think it will be a good bit higher than VGC.)

 

[bookwormde]

could not vote since I do not think Aulani will be much different from BLT. GCV was a very small resort attached and viewing a park. While Aulani is Disney, there are lots of resorts that are not that much less and the Hawaii market is not strong due to the higher air fares.

Bookwormde

 

[LIFERBABE]

Well the VGC point charts are scary enough! I booked 3 night in a studio next March, 78 points!

 

[anniet]

Hmm,

We shall see. I think they may need to lower it some. DVC is land based. People can drive down for reletively low cost. On the other hand, flying to Hawaii is an added expense anyone visiting the island is going to have to consider. Very few families of 5 or 6 are going to fly out from the east coast.

From the West Coast
Generally $300 to $450 for one round trip ticket in winter and off-season, so for two tickets you would pay $600 to $900. Prices will go up to $500 to $650 ($1000 – $1300 for two tickets) in the summer and around holidays.

From Middle America
Price to Hawaii from the central mainland U.S.: Tickets will start at $600 apiece generally in the winter and offseason and hopefully won’t go up past $750. In the summer and peak season you could pay as much as $850 to $1200 per ticket.

From East Coast
Airline ticket prices from the east coast: Expect to pay $850 apiece as your cheapest price in the winter and the offseason. In July, if you book early, you may still be able to find some $850 rates, but if you don’t, you could pay $1500 easy. Or $3000 for a couple.

Not to throw a monkey wrench into this reasoning, I don't think Americans are the only ones DVC is looking to appeal to with this resort.

DVC IS opening a preview center it Tokyo soon.

 

[drusba]

My guess, higher than any resort. Main reason: economics. Cost of land in Hawaii is higher than any other state in the nation. Cost of construction is also very high in Hawaii. Thus, they need to have either higher sale price per point than any other DVC resort or higher points needed per night, or more likely a combination of both, to cover costs and make usual profit.