Why has the rent/trade board gotten so crazy??

[dizzydisney2007]

Yes, okay, Voorheesville and Miami have nothing in common. We have one traffic light, and we really don't need it.

All right - it is really a small world after all... I was born and raised in Delmar, New York. And, I am a perpetual lurker who enjoys reading information on Disney, and who doesn't usually have much information to give to others.

 

[Boardwalker]

Just to put my two cents

Everyone who owns points at their own resort has the same opportunity to snag a prime time reservation. We are all competing equally. What we do with the reservation afterwards is OUR BUSINESS as we have paid for those points and the maintenance on those units. I don't rent commercially but I also know that it is presumptious of me to try and tell someone else how to use their points unless I want to pay for their non use of points.

If someone wants to rent a ressie at the 7 month window and it is gone because an owner is renting out his or her weeks well that is just too bad.
Buy where you want to stay. Nothing in the contract says you have the ability to use all the resorts for ever. I just sold a HH contract because I wanted more BWV points so I could take advantage of the 11 month window. As long as I'm competing equally with other owners or owners points then I have nothing to complain about. Having the ability to be a renter or a rentee truly enhances DVC Membership and assures me that if times are tough and I don't want to sell my membership I can rent points to cover maintenance till I get on my feet again. Points have been selling for $10 per point for as long as I've owned(1998). It appears with new demand the points are now more expensive to rent at peak periods. And this is bad WHY??? It makes our membership more valuable, especially those of us who bought at the small resorts that are in high demand. I agree the planner has the BIG advantage here and the buy where you want to stay becomes more necessary. For the big resorts it will still be relatively easy to get rooms.

If the membership becomes more restrictive, who does that benefit. The one transfer rule is a perfect example. This has added to my enjoyment of my membership??? The problem was point morphing. Fix that and then everyone is on the same playing field and you can't be fairer than that.

Valid points. We do all compete equally, and have the same rights to do with our reservations what we will.
Do you feel that the annual dues are not adversely effected by renting? Maybe wear and tear is wear and tear.
As far as the membership becoming restricted, I have more problem with not being able to use SAB since they built the BCV than with the transfer rule. I have more problem with not getting the ticket discounts that we initially
got when we joined.
And, please, what is point morphing? I remember reading about it before, but can't recall the details.

 

[dumbo71]

hey dumbo chill man we all friends here . justs kidding i think . its too cold here to flame.. .i cant think that renting will make our dues go up , they go up anyway. most renters . i think. respect. dave

It wasn't flames, it was just a complete head scratching moment reading Voorhesville and Miami in the same sentence. No flames just stil wonder what they meant by that comment?????????

 

[Boardwalker]

All right - it is really a small world after all... I was born and raised in Delmar, New York. And, I am a perpetual lurker who enjoys reading information on Disney, and who doesn't usually have much information to give to others.

Welcome Del-martin! We are all coming out of the woodwork now! Never pick on an upstater, unless you are one yourself! We can mobilize a cast of thousands, or at least two, at the drop of a hat!

 

[Boardwalker]

Sorry about the confusion Dumbo71. I was just being sarcastic (that's what you get when you mix funny with below zero temperatures) and I can't find a smiley face to fit that emotion.
I have smart alec tendencies, but really am a nice person, inspite of what you have heard about Voorhees-villans from the previous posts.

 

[disney-super-mom]

Since becoming a DisBoard member, I've always thought the DVC rent/trade board was kinda crazy, with lots of new members or members with a very low post count. It does seem a bit busier though, so I guess that would make it a bit crazier than usual.

It's kinda like a feeding frenzy.....throw out some bread crumbs and watch them flock.

 

[rinkwide]

...I don't expect renting to end. I don't believe it has any benefit for those of us who use our points ourselves...

So, you can't imagine any scenario in the next 40 years where you might end up with points that are about to expire?

 

[dumbo71]

Sorry about the confusion Dumbo71. I was just being sarcastic (that's what you get when you mix funny with below zero temperatures) and I can't find a smiley face to fit that emotion.
I have smart alec tendencies, but really am a nice person, inspite of what you have heard about Voorhees-villans from the previous posts.

No problem and I hope my post didn't seem like flames. It is just one of those things that you read and you are like "WHAT?????".

I'd guess it was a little sarcasim based on that 2 feet of snow you guys got. I get it now, sorry.

By the way I was born in Niskayuna and lived in Saratoga Springs until I was 18. I guess I am an upstater in a lot of ways though I'll never go back except for visits.

 

[Deb & Bill]

Some of the humorous comments I have noted on the R/T Board:

"I'm a frequent renter. We hope to be DVC members some day." Yeah, right. That's why you have been renting all these trips. It's not going to get any cheaper.

"We've been saving for years for this trip. We can't afford to pay very much." Again, yeah, right. You can afford a week trip to WDW, but you can't afford a value or moderate resort?

"Can you help make my princess's trip special?" Nope.

"We don't want to pay more than $8-9 a point." Hahhhhh, hahhhhh. Go get your value resort and be happy with that.

Sorry, but I see so many cheapskates on the R/T board.

 

[Boardwalker]

Dumbo71,
No harm, no foul.
Seems like everybody on this board lived in Saratoga at one time.... what is this, gamblers anonymous or DVC? Again with the sarcasm, sorry.

 

[Boardwalker]

So, you can't imagine any scenario in the next 40 years where you might end up with points that are about to expire?

Me? no way! Not going to happen. I would be happy if we could book 18 months out, because I like to plan myself silly. I love WDW so much I still have dreams about Disney for a week before I go.
I have to borrow a few points from the next year more often than not. And if something happened that I couldn't take a trip, I would either give them to friends and family or let them expire.

 

[Jimmy Hoffa Sr]

Yo!

Gentlemen it is not always easy to be a frequent poster.

Many of us 'lurkers' have jobs or other 'commitments' that prevent us from posting as much as we would like.

I think banning is silly. Violators should be rubbed out, if you catch my drift .

And yes the R/T board is a good way to move 'product' and make a nice, non-reportable income, nudge, nudge, say no more.

Respectfully.

Jimmy

 

[sam7]

Just wanted to post because my number of posts is so low that I will immediately make all the other posters who have only a few hunderd feel much better.

And what's wrong with lurkers? you should be flattered people want to read what you've written. If everyone who read this board posted just for the sake of posting it would be unreadable.

Add me to the list of people who say renting is essential. I need the flexibility, even though I've owned for 4 years and only rented out once and then it was only 1/3 of my points. Commercial renting is an annoying idea I agree. But lets not hope that Disney gets rid of renting - that will reduce the value of everyone's points.

 

[Boardwalker]

Yo!

Gentlemen it is not always easy to be a frequent poster.

Many of us 'lurkers' have jobs or other 'commitments' that prevent us from posting as much as we would like.

I think banning is silly. Violators should be rubbed out, if you catch my drift .

And yes the R/T board is a good way to move 'product' and make a nice, non-reportable income, nudge, nudge, say no more.

Respectfully.

Jimmy

Welcome Jimmy. Nice to hear from you after all this time. How's life in the endzone at Giant's Stadium been?
Post all you want, just try to treat people with respect. It isn't too much to ask.
Hey ...Giant Stadium Villas?

 

[dumbo71]

Dumbo71,
No harm, no foul.
Seems like everybody on this board lived in Saratoga at one time.... what is this, gamblers anonymous or DVC? Again with the sarcasm, sorry.

No problem. When you live in NY sarcasim is about all you have.

 

[Boardwalker]

No problem. When you live in NY sarcasim is about all you have.

Not true. We have taxes too.

 

[Jimmy Hoffa Sr]

Welcome Jimmy. Nice to hear from you after all this time. How's life in the endzone at Giant's Stadium been?
Post all you want, just try to treat people with respect. It isn't too much to ask.
Hey ...Giant Stadium Villas?

Mr. Walker:

I found Jersey a little too cold and damp for these old bones, so I have moved to the foundation (not founding member) of the AKV.

Always Respectfully,

Jimmy

 

[Caskbill]

Too many posts on this board have degraded to simple chit-chat. The DVC boards are strictly for discussion concerning DVC itself. It is NOT a community board for DVC members.

Anyone wishing for idle chat can go to the DIS Community Boards.

Please review the posting guidelines located at the top of each of the 4 DVC boards which explain appropriate topics for each board.

Since the original topic has been discussed in detail, and no new discussion is occurring, this thread will be closed now.

 

[RobDoc]

PLEASE - confine comments to the topic at hand. A trend seems to have developed recently where a number of threads become an active source for off-topic and/or private comments - both of which are violations of the DIS site guidelines.

If you wish to compare notes about where you live or trade sarcasms (also a guideline violation), PLEASE use email or PM. It won't be allowed on the DVC boards.

For those insulted by comments about asking for and verifying references before entering into a rental agreement or looking at recent posts by those involved, no insult was intended - HOWEVER - I will stand by those suggestions as effective ways to help determine the character of the person to whom you would consider sending money. If anyone has better ways to assist users, feel free to make those suggestions.

The suggestions I made have nothing to do with post count (I even used the phrase "quality rather than quantity") - I know of some with post counts above 1000 whose posts have little (if any) actual content and some with only a few posts who have made very positive contributions to threads on this site. If you are unable to locate past posts by someone, ask them to provide links to what they have posted. The search function does work, but we're aware that many would preferAny suggestion that someone should be "banned" for having a low post is pretty absurd and has never happened in the past and I can't see it ever happening.

Again, PLEASE keep coments in these threads to the topic at hand.