Why Epcot reigns supreme, no matter how neglected

Beautifully written! Especially #1. To me that is what ALL of Disney is...it's the "thingies"...the big ones, yes, but also so many of the small ones, that form such wonderful family memories for me. And keep me looking forward to trips all the time. Thanks for wording it so well. :)
 
I don't have kids, but I love this post SO much! Its the intangible with Epcot for sure. I literally spend at least a couple of hours every day I'm at WDW at Epcot. Hell, I've been staying at the Royal Pacific and did a morning and an afternoon at US/IOA and the pool and decide its worth increasing the days on our WDW park tickets for an evening on Illuminations. It's a spendy evening, but we didn't want to hang at US all evening, so we got an Uber and were at Epcot in no time.

Thank you for expressing, so well, its the little magic things that make Epcot so wonderful - no matter what age you are:)
 
People Mover idea would be amazing, and EPCOT would be the perfect park for it! I always thought the Tomorrowland Transit Authority peoplemover concept would be so much better as an actual mode of within-park transportation rather than a standalone ride. MK already has the train though. I'd love to see this idea at EPCOT one day.

I can also relate to your apprehension about Disney showing epcot some "love" and end up changing the character of the park too much. That'd be tragic.

Epcot is our favorite park, because of the things that you mentioned, and because it is the un-MK. We spend two days there, and if we could, we wouldn't hesitate to do a third!

I do agree that Epcot needs some love from Disney, but i'm afraid their idea of love is going to drop in IP rides and call it good. I really want to see more of what we like - in Future World, the futuristic things, the sci-fi, technology. In World Showcase, i'd love to see another country come in. But I really hope they keep any future rides in the WS more "low key and hidden" like the Three Amigos and Frozen.

One thing I wish they would do at Epcot is add a People Mover that could take you do between the World Showcase and Future World. It would be a great way to see the park without walking your feet off!
 

Ah yes. This was my first ever post on any WDW forum so I was nervous to mention that in my post ("will people write me off as a lush?" I thought to myseld), but the availability and variety of adult beverages is another great EPCOT hallmark!

This is a great post. <3 While EPCOT does feel sad to me in some aspects, I agree that it's special in the ways you describe. Walking through Future World and hearing that music always gets me. :) We also love the Kid Stop "thingies," which are enjoyed by all of us (usually because the kids can relax and talk to CMs while making something fun to take home, and DH and I get to chill out and watch with an adult beverage in our hand while the kids are occupied by someone else, lol).
 
We've only been to wdw 3 times but with every visit I started to love epcot more! It's so nice to be able to take a day to just stroll round the park, get a few good rides in and just take things at a leisurely pace. We visited the food and wine festival on our last trip and loved that!! And I also love that you can divert off to the boardwalk for a bit :goodvibes
 
Youre 100% right about being able to have the non-rush experience at all the parks. I guess being that our trips are somewhat driven by the desires of the kids, there's less of a likelihood of that actually happening at the other parks. At Epcot however, you could almost say they're tricked into slowing down. As fun as Wdw trips are with the kids at their young ages, I cant wait to see how the experience will evolveas they get older

Bout time someone gave Epcot some love. It has always been our favorite park from the day it opened and my son was just a toddler at the time. We have never been all about just riding the rides, even when a lot more rides were open at Epcot, that wasn't our focus. But to give a shout out to all the parks, you can have that same slow down and not rush from ride to ride experience at all of them.
 
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Yess absolutely @ diverting to Boardwalk. Thats another great thing about it. Theres Boardwalk, and also the Yacht and Beach Club. Its great to park there (if you dont mind telling a white lie to the guard at the parking lot security kiosk) and walk to epcot from the hotel. You can see Illuminations and also Studios fireworks from the beach along the way back - some of my favorite nights at the park have ended this way!

We've only been to wdw 3 times but with every visit I started to love epcot more! It's so nice to be able to take a day to just stroll round the park, get a few good rides in and just take things at a leisurely pace. We visited the food and wine festival on our last trip and loved that!! And I also love that you can divert off to the boardwalk for a bit :goodvibes
 
Thank you! We got back from our last trip on May 25 and Ive had all these EPCOT thoughts/feelings bottled up since then. I actually created an account here JUST to unload all that, but now that Im here, I'll definitely be around reading/writing!

Beautifully written! Especially #1. To me that is what ALL of Disney is...it's the "thingies"...the big ones, yes, but also so many of the small ones, that form such wonderful family memories for me. And keep me looking forward to trips all the time. Thanks for wording it so well. :)
 
Thank you for a great post.
Epcot is our favorite park as well. And I agree, to us it is the intangibles that we love. On a 7 night trip we usually end 5 days at Epcot.
I wish i could convince my family to spend that many of our nights at Epcot!
 
See for me it's not hate.

I love the idea and premise behind Epcot. I unfortunately was born too late to experience the original Epcot attractions, but the feel and idea behind the place is second to no other theme park concept on earth. That whole idea of inspiring humanity, showing us where we've been and where we can go, that touches me in a special place not just as a theme park tourist but as a person on this planet.

I have a great appreciation for the world showcase now that I'm older, and I have my future world rides I love. I just long for some areas to get some TLC (innoventions, wonders of life, imagination) because I know they can do better. And I know that they can really make Epcot that place that it was created to be, to inspire wonder and inspiration for us as people.

Well said. It does have a depth of meaning that the others dont. Its not about pure fantasy or escapism, it's about seeing the real world we live in everyday in a new way.
 
Yes!!! I have trouble explaining to people why I love Epcot so much. To the people who say "Epcot has nothing for kids; it's boring", all I can say is "My kids LOVE it". It's my oldest's favorite park and has been since our first trip. AK is our second favorite, and I think it's for similar reasons--it's a "wander around and take in the details" type place in similar ways to Epcot. It's more about "experiencing" rather than "doing". Nothing wrong with the "GO GO GO" types of vacationers or spending some or all of your trip that way, of course. But for us, what Epcot offers is perfect.

This is why I love Disney so much in general. But Epcot just takes it to another level, especially the World Showcase. On my trip in February I spent the majority of one day just wandering around each country. Going in all the shops, walking through the little paths in the back of some areas like Morocco, seeing the films and trying different foods. I already have my next trip planned for January at the BWV and the main reason why I chose that hotel was because of its proximity to EPCOT. I'm gonna love being able to just walk over to the park at the spur of a moment or right before the park closes to be able to see the the WS all lit up with not many people around. Can't wait!
 
After the 2 Disney trips my family has taken (my wife, 2 kids and my parents), we all unanimously agree that we have the most fun at EPCOT. Nobody can even put their finger on why. We've stopped trying to analyze it and just accept it: We have the most fun there. Most of us would not even call it our favorite park, yet we have the best time there.
Exactly!
 
This is why I love Disney so much in general. But Epcot just takes it to another level, especially the World Showcase. On my trip in February I spent the majority of one day just wandering around each country. Going in all the shops, walking through the little paths in the back of some areas like Morocco, seeing the films and trying different foods. I already have my next trip planned for January at the BWV and the main reason why I chose that hotel was because of its proximity to EPCOT. I'm gonna love being able to just walk over to the park at the spur of a moment or right before the park closes to be able to see the the WS all lit up with not many people around. Can't wait!


Yes. Love the OP's bit about thingies and your post as well.

Disney is not (for me) about thrill rides. I have better coasters a few hours away and I love coasters. Disney is the shopping and details and wandering and "thingies". But most of all it's that feeling of childlike glee on Disney rides done well. For example- I don't care for drop rides in general, but tower of terror is great from the entrance to the exit.

Epcot exemplifies this Disney feeling. It could use some TLC. But I love it as it is, and I don't want anything really great to go away. I just want them to enhance it a bit.
 
My kids didn't care for Epcot (13 and 14 at the time). :rolleyes:

I keep telling myself it's because we went first day and we were tired from traveling and the 3rd day when we hit a wall, physically.

The absolutely loved MK, and they said it's because it's the most "Disney" of the parks.

They did, however, love FEA, so I will use that to lure them back in if/ when we return to WDW. I may have to forgo park hoppers so they have no chance of escape. :rolleyes1
 
As someone who took a hiatus from WDW starting at age 17 and not returning until 28 with my own children - I couldn't wait to get back that first time. Leading up to that trip, all of the Disney memories from childhood started coming back as I daydreamed about what I wanted my kids to see and do. Obviously, that train of thought was enough to fuel months' worth of daydreaming, but out of all that great material, one thing stuck out: EPCOT. Unlike the other things I kept thinking about - seeing my kids faces in their first Splash Mountain pic, hearing their first screams on Tower of Terror - my looking forward to EPCOT wasn't so specific. I found it hard to boil it down to certain experiences, I just knew I wanted them to see the park; the whole park. To make a long (and pretty great) story short, that first return to Disney in 2014 would be the first of a now-yearly pilgrimage, and if you - like me - have both back-in-the-day Disney experience and more current, than you can sense it too: Epcot has been, to be kind, slightly neglected by time, and by time, I mean Disney.
EPCOT has become Disney's ghetto. Not to make light of real-world socioeconomically disenfranchised areas, but if you know your local ghetto, you know it's status as such is marked by certain indicators. Abandoned buildings is one of the big ones. Another one is dated infrastructure. This park has both (not to mention a roach infestation more severe than any of the other parks, I mean, it is Florida, but damn!). I cannot tell you how surprised I was that first time back to discover that what I'd remembered as always ahead of its time, cutting edge EPCOT had been outpaced by time. A main through-way of the park leading to now half empty Innoventions, the Electric Umbrella, etc. in the now-ironically named Future World was lined with pay phones (not just a few - so, so many payphones). Huge pavilions stood vacant as they have now for years, creating stretches of park that offer nothing. I won't go on - after all - this is a positive post about EPCOT - but if you're a longtimer, I know you know what I mean.
And this is where I explain how in the end, none of that matters. Disney World parks are exhausting, and more so if you have children (and more, more, more, more so if you have four children, like my wife and I). I've come to realize that a typical park experience is made up of you constantly switching between four modes - walking, waiting, riding/watching, eating. There is no transition period between the four - you just go from one to the next until it's time to leave. EPCOT is the biggest exception to this rule out of all the main parks. During our last trip, my family and I went to EPCOT twice. Ride for ride, we did way less than any of the other parks, but positive experience for positive experience, I have to say - whether my family realizes it or not - EPCOT reigned supreme.

1. THINGIES (it'll make sense, just keep reading)
If you took the exit areas to just about any Epcot ride in Future World and plopped them down in AnywhereElse, USA, you'd have a standalone arcade-like attraction, not unlike a Chuck-E-Cheese, but a much higher quality version, obviously. Spaceship Earth was both the most boring ride to my kids, and at the same time, one of their funnest experiences. Still in that Disney "GO GO GO!" mode of the other parks, I had already calculated the next 2 rides we'd be able to squeeze in before the park closed as our "time machine vehicle was rotating backwards for our return to Earth." Then after 15 minutes of my kids having a blast playing the games offered in the exit space, and several unsuccessful attempts to prod them to the exit, I had my EPCOT epiphany - this is what this place is all about. When we returned to EPCOT for the second time of our trip, we spent about 40 percent of our time in "GO GO GO" mode and the rest enjoying experiences like the one at Spaceship Earth. We raced the cars we'd created at Test Track video game-style, we made music with out bodies at the end of Journey to Imagination, and my kids took their shoes off to run around the water-jumping-out-the-ground circle thingy while I stood nearby under a nice misting thingy. From there, we went to what I came to know as the Coca-Cola Cool Down Station as a child, where they squealed with glee as strangers fell for their urgings to try the Italian soda, "Beverly" (don't know what this place is called now, but we'll call it "soda thingy.") Case in point - EPCOT has the most thingies, and the coolest thingies, and you must be willing to stop and enjoy the thingies the same way people have been telling you to stop and smell the roses all these years. Only then will you know the true magic of this place. It's a huge relief from the walking, waiting, riding/watching, eating, and as much as you love the other parks - you need some of that in your life when you're Disneying hard.

2. AESTHETIC & ATMOSPHERE
No matter how dated elements in EPCOT might be, the overall design of the park is so immaculate, so contemporary (shout out to the hotel), that nothing can take away its atmosphere of sophistication and fun. While I'm of the opinion that all of WDW shows its true beauty at night when the lights come on, the ambiance of EPCOT at night is unrivaled by any other WDW location, possibly any other worldly location (like, the actual world). From the specs of light that twinkle in the square granite walkway blocks of Future World (another of those "thingies" that made my kids happy), to the landmarks of World Showcase - this goes beyond pleasing to the eye. It's outright mesmerizing.

3. BEING GROWN
While the rest of Disney easily makes adults feel like kids again, EPCOT appeals to your adult senses while still offering plenty of the stuff that keeps your kids' eyes sparkling with the delight you love to see in them. And as great as it is to be a kid again, during a week-or-so long period of being a man/woman child, it kind of feels good to go adulting again. Sure, you do your grown up thing when you order your family's food and other boring mandatory stuff like that, but it's not the same as adulting at a park. EPCOT lets you do that like no other WDW park can. And all the while, the kids aren't losing an ounce of fun (refer back to the "thingies").

I'm realizing now that I could go on and on, but there's a sampling of what I think makes EPCOT undefeated, and why no lack of updating could ever change it. Sure, get wrapped up in the magical adrenaline rush that defines a WDW vacation. Disney so hard your face is numb. But just know that all that rushing around makes EPCOT all the sweeter, and to let that go unappreciated is to lose out on a major part of the magic.
Hmmm . . . suddenly have a desire to see Epcot again.
 
OP, I could not agree with you more.

There is much about EPCOT that I wish Disney would do something to fix. Innoventions needs a reboot. Journey Into Imagination is in serious need of help. Wonders of life needs to return in some form. The Universe of Energy sorely needs to be modernized.

However, even with all that needs fixing / updating, EPCOT is an amazing park. It is very aesthetically pleasing, it is relaxing, it still gives us something to think about, and things to do, and beauty to behold everywhere. DS (now 13) and I have to play the energy city game at the end of Spaceship Earth every time we ride. Racing the cars at the end of Test Track is fun too. Mission control at the end of Mission Space is another place where time just seems to vanish.

It is an amazing park, you just have to take it in a little differently than you take in MK.
 
Yess absolutely @ diverting to Boardwalk. Thats another great thing about it. Theres Boardwalk, and also the Yacht and Beach Club. Its great to park there (if you dont mind telling a white lie to the guard at the parking lot security kiosk) and walk to epcot from the hotel. You can see Illuminations and also Studios fireworks from the beach along the way back - some of my favorite nights at the park have ended this way!

Please don't do that - it is against the posted rules.
Your "little white lie" negatively impacts those of us who pay the high rates to stay at this hotel. It is very frustrating, - and unfair - to come "home" at the end of the day to simply circle the parking lots, or worse yet not find a spot to park our car, at the resort we are paying to stay at.
 
Excellent post, very well written!
Epcot is my favorite park!! We love Illuminations, Soarin, Test Track & just sauntering around the world. I love going there on our trips in August because it's always less crowded than MK and we can really walk around without getting bumped into etc
My parents didn't take me there when we went as kids (shame on them :)), I found a real appreciation & love for it as an adult!
 














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