Why do some DVC members think they can get extra perks which are not offered?

[keishashadow]

Because you never know what you might get unless you ask. If the answer is no, well fine, if your request is doable, it may be fulfilled. And it may also spawn the idea to management that this request is doable for all guests but had never before been thought of.

Exactly! A request is not a demand and any perc that is offered is a great bonus imo.

...several of us relentlessly campaigned via a series of emails & phone calls re the DP for the better part of '05 & DVC came thru the next year.

The AP perc is fantastic, personally, I'd like to see a discount offered on all multi-day tix too. Haven't started that ball rolling on that one yet lol.

bottom line, if it wasn't "profitable", it wouldn't be an option.

 

[greenban]

Dear DISboards friends and family:

Those of you who have been active for more than a week, know how hard it is for me to disagree with the concensous here, but as hard as that can be for me, I must politely disagree.

There is a clear and specific group of DVCers who have the 'elitest mentality', and no I am not referring to the 'Naughty DVCers' from the Northeastern United States.

I mean, that one, snobish, stand-offish, speratist (They don't share well) group of DVC Owners.

Those who own the

BCV!!!

It is true! We OKWers let them pool hop any ole time, but do they share?

They think their SAB water doesn't stink (of chlorine), and them and their zero entry area with real sand!

And them special BCV Pool Towels.

In fact, I'm calling their (cheer) leader out right hear and now!

BECA, where are you, I'm calling you a BCV SNOB!!!!!

-Tony

And don't forget the Cape May Buffet and Beaches and Cream, and the secret entrance into the Magic Kingdom from the 4th floor!

And who blames SSR for everything from wear and tear, trouble booking at 7 months, broken pipes, bad siding, and icky carpeting, that's right, them thar BCVers!

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Dear DISboards friends and family:

Those of you who have been active for more than a week, know how hard it is for me to disagree with the concensous here, but as hard as that can be for me, I must politely disagree.

There is a clear and specific group of DVCers who have the 'elitest mentality', and no I am not referring to the 'Naughty DVCers' from the Northeastern United States.

I mean, that one, snobish, stand-offish, speratist (They don't share well) group of DVC Owners.

Those who own the

BCV!!!

It is true! We OKWers let them pool hop any ole time, but do they share?

They think their SAB water doesn't stink (of chlorine), and them and their zero entry area with real sand!

And them special BCV Pool Towels.

In fact, I'm calling their (cheer) leader out right hear and now!

BECA, where are you, I'm calling you a BCV SNOB!!!!!

-Tony

And don't forget the Cape May Buffet and Beaches and Cream, and the secret entrance into the Magic Kingdom from the 4th floor!

And who blames SSR for everything from wear and tear, trouble booking at 7 months, broken pipes, bad siding, and icky carpeting, that's right, them thar BCVers!

Finally someone who agrees with me & see's things from my point of view. So greenban thank you for responding, I appreciate it.

 

[bavaria]

aaaaah my dear friend Tony.....

Thank you for once again sharing your words of wisdom. However, it appears that your distinct brand of froggy sarcasm does not translate well into Canadian - you may want to speak more clearly so that the young lady who started this fine thread understands what you truly mean.....

 

[Sammie]

Tony, Tony, tsk tsk, now you are messing with the minds of the impressionable, unlike the rest of us who are immune to you.

Contemporary Fan, he is pulling your leg.

 

[Starr W.]

Greenban or may I call you Tony, your wit and sarcasm are very addictive.

That's why I checkout the board so often. .

Will be waiting for Beca's reply.

 

[DisDaydreamer]

The question was an honest one and not meant to attack any DVC member.
I am not sure why you think it is an attack on you- maybe you should re-read the post. Saying that he should troll another board is unbelievably rude and totally out of line with the posting guidelines on these boards.

Sorry, I think you are off base here. If someone is going to complain to DVC members about DVC members in a generic sense, and doesn't give an instance or example... then it does come across as personal.

Salmoneous did a good job wording his response to not be rude and to maintain the integrity of the board guidelines.

I think tobidisney nailed the answer.

 

[Chuck S]

Tony and the OP make a good point (not about BCV ) but about a small group of DVCers. There have, over the years, been numerous posts ion the DIS from a few DVCers that seem to "want it all." Surely you remember the threads wanting all the FL resident perks because we "own property" in FL, never mind that we aren't actually residents. I remember the threads basically demanding FL ticket rates (I'm still very happy to have the current AP discount) and the right to buy the DDE simply by virtue of being DVC members. There were also the thread stating that because we "spent so much money" on DVC that they OWE us the free dining when it is offered.

There is that minority of people that wouldn't be satisfied even if Disney gave us lifetime park passes and free food for every visit.

To the OP, no business can satisfy all the people all of the time, the same is true for cash customers, FL locals, offsite guests, and DVC members. Just don't paint the vast majority of satisfied owners with the same brush as that vocal minority.

 

[pearlieq]

Sorry bud, but you do get a flame on this one. You are attacking DVC members by claiming they do something. But, of course, you offer no proof, no example, nothing. Just a generic slur on DVC members.

If you are upset with something specific somebody said, talk about it. But making a generic attack on DVC members in a DVC forum when you aren't a DVC member... not cool.

Isn't there some other board you could troll?

Wow! Holy rudeness!

I know exactly what the OP is talking about. I've heard "I'm a DVC member and I've paid XX amount of money so I should get Cinderella to personally buff my shoes with her hair" more times that I can count.

Heck, there are posts to that effect in this thread!

My answer to the OP is that there is always a contingent that are going to believe they are "special" and deserve more. It's no different from people saying "Well I'm staying concierge so they should do X for me" or people saying "I paid all this money for the Grand Floridian so I should be entitled to more". You hear it all the time.

It's not a DVC-specific issue.

 

[drakethib]

Hey I will take any things DVC offers as a perk and welcome any more that they give us.

I am not afraid to ask for more as all they can do is say no but I do apprecaite what they do give us.

I think it would be cool to have a lounge somewhere in the parks for DVC'ers which I would gladly pay more for.

There are frequent WDW visitors (including DVCers) who expect "comps" such as in Vegas. If the mouse wants to give them out, I am all for it.

I am also a Disney VISA card holder and I really hadn't seen any perks offered.

As a stockholder, I have never heard of any of perks for stockholders.

 

[jemiaule]

asking the resort to replace Coke products with Pepsi products?

Oh god, one can only wish. I will live with Coke if they would get decent coffee on property instead of that nasty Necafe garbage.

Ok...back to the topic

 

[DVCconvert]

This is one messed up thread.

 

[DisDaydreamer]

Oh god, one can only wish. I will live with Coke if they would get decent coffee on property instead of that nasty Necafe garbage.

Ok...back to the topic

Always bring my own coffee AND Pepsi

 

[jemiaule]

.....

I mean, that one, snobish, stand-offish, speratist (They don't share well) group of DVC Owners.

Those who own the

BCV!!!

It is true! We OKWers let them pool hop any ole time, but do they share?

They think their SAB water doesn't stink (of chlorine), and them and their zero entry area with real sand!

And them special BCV Pool Towels.

Oh crap, I own at both OKW and BVC. Fearing the wrath of greenban now.

 

[bobbiwoz]

Dear DISboards friends and family:

...
BECA, where are you, I'm calling you a BCV SNOB!!!!!

-Tony

I'm pretty sure she's enjoying the BCV right now.

 

[Dean]

This thread is not meant to be mean or anything bad about Disney Vacation Club Members, so I just wanted to make that point for you all to see right away.

Anyway from what I have learned from this great website, Disney Vacation Club members get special perks that regular guests may not get. Some examples being pool hopping, purchasing DVC member only pins & etc, which is fine & it does not bother me at all. However something that kind of bothers me is when others may say, well since I am a DVC member maybe WDW can do this for me or I am paying so much per year I deserve to get it. I understand that DVC members pay so mch per year, because my family & I have friends who have been DVC members since it began in 1991. So I am just wondering why are there some members who think because they get other freebies which are not included for being DVC members?

So I ask that no one flames me over this, because once again I say I am not attacking any DVC members. It's just a simple question I have.

I can see both sides. I have no problem in anyone asking for anything that's not illegal or asking if something is OK even when they should know the answer already. Even if they push the limits, it never hurts to ask if you do so nicely. But there are members who feel they are owed things they have not bought. They PH when they are not staying on points or when it's banned. They take towels from the pool for the purpose of using in the room. They sneak pets in to the DVC rooms. They smoke in NS units. They stuff the unit with more people than DVC has given them permission to have and more than are on their confirmation. They get upset if they can't get free DDP when someone else has to pay rack rates and buy a ticket to get the DDP for free. And while some of these are more egregious than others, they all represent an attitude that disregards the rules and shows a blatant disrespect for their fellow owners and the system they own in.

 

[WeddingPavilion]

Please let us know what things specifically have been requested by DVC members? I have been a very long time poster here, and am active on other websites for owners. I know many of the posters here and elsewhere in person, and some of them I consider close friends.

I cannot recall any examples of where DVC owners thought that they should get something for nothing.

Are you referring to parking at the CR? riding busses when one is not staying at the resort? reusing refillable mugs from past stays? asking the resort to replace Coke products with Pepsi products?





I am going to have to agree with Sal on this one, unless you point out some specific behaviours or actions here which you feel are deserving of that comment.

BTW, I am sure that if we try hard enough, we could all find something to complain about in regards to other posters, and what they feel that they deserve. (oh, but that's just 'my opinion')

I wouldn't clean the rims on my car with Pepsi!!!!!!! All pepsi is-is flat Coke.

 

[tubtruck]

Its natural expectation to want more, the more you pay, I for one think that DVC OWNERS are already treated a little better than regular park guests and should be treated even better still. Anywhere in the world the more you spend the better the service you get ( in the majority of situations). You can guarantee that the average DVC owner spends a whole lot more money in a typical 24 hour period at Disney than the typical average guest. They have parted with a whole load of money to become owners and should for this reason expect a little bit more. As for someone staying in the Grand Floridian or any other delux hotel I can understand why they feel this way as well. The most expensive part of disney to run i.e the parks is been used by a large majority who are staying offsite and not spending big bucks yet to some people it is distastefull that people who spend more should not get more. These are the same people who look with venom at airports at the buisness class travels when they are asked to board the plane first and are getting served a drink by the time the economy passenger gets on. Do they stop and think that that that guy travelling buisness class who has just payed eight times more for his ticket than the bargain bucket one they are travelling on may be subsidising their ticket and perhaps the flight would not turn a profit and would not exist if he and a small minority did not pay over the odds for a little bit more? NO, all he sees is someone getting treated (though deservedly) better than him and doesnt like it. This is the same at Disney, do you think that the masses traveling in from outside disney to the parks each day with their cheap 3 day tickets to spend all day clogging up the "E-ticket rides" would be able to enjoy parks of such high quality AND high running cost if it were not for a minority of guests spending heaps of money on expensive (and massivley profitable) luxury accommodations and expensive restraunts. Can you blame this discerning minority for wanting a little bit more? NO. These are the guests Disney do not want to lose, they are many times more valuable to Disney. The sooner they start treating them like this the better, the sooner they recognise this in the way of extra fastpasses and golden fastpasses (like they have already done at Disneyland Resort Paris) the better. To the OP, are you an owner? if not is your venom maybe tinged with a little jealousy? I see you have a possible future DVC as your signature, if the resort comes to fruition is this aspirational for you or merely a pipedream of wishfull thinking like the guy sat in economy class. Who may not like it but given the chance would happily trade places. Remember capitalism and equality do not go hand in hand even in a themepark.

 

[FriendsOfEeyore]

I personnally like my "Welcome Home" every time I get home. My DW was never completely sold on our DVC purchase... Then we drove to WDW for our first stay. When I opened the window and we were told "Welcome Home," she was instantly in love.

Ok, back the topic.... The only perk that I really want is my Welcome Home. I will take advantage of almost any other perk that they want to offer. DVC has treated my family very well in our three plus years of ownership.

I wish that we had an 11 month window for booking ADRs. Not that I could ever use it. I usually book a trip 6 to 8 weeks out, but it would still be a nice perk.

How about free parking, oh wait. What about free valet parking ALL OVER WDW. Now that would be nice.... Eventhough most of the deluxes have usually taken care of us in the past. I think that I have only been charged once.

Ok, I demand a 30% discount on all shopping.

That's enough for tonight. But as I said, I am happy with my "Welcome Home!!!"

Edward

 

[2Princes2Princesses]

OP- You like to stir the pot, dontcha??

Here is my take on your question, which I think is a valid one, BTW:

In every group of people, there are those who think they are entitled to something more than the next guy. Not all DVCers are like that, but as your post title said, SOME are. I ran into one on the cruise and she made me embarrassed to have a blue card.

But, some AP holders are also like that. So are some FL residents. And some concierge guests. Spending a lot of money somewhere, often, sometimes has certain people getting into the mindset of "I DESERVE MORE!"

I know some CM's are less than thrilled with some DVCers and some AP holders who have that mantra playing in their head. The "GIMME! MINE! GIMME MORE!" song that can make people unbearable to be around.

Bottom line, there are some in every group. Even in a first time WDW guest who shelled out 1000's for a suite at the GF. Sad but true.

Now, you were jumped on here because the majority of DVCers on this board are not fans of people who act that way and give CMs trouble at the parks and resorts, this is a nice bunch on the DIS. You posed that question to the "good" DVCers, who are happy to get what they give us for the most part. We wish there could be more, but are not going to raise a holy stink if there isnt.

*I, of course, own at SSR. So I should be happy they let me come to the party at all!!!

*YES I AM KIDDING.