Why Castmembers Hate DVC Members!

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cstraub said:
I am not a DVC memeber and never will be. I think it is a rip when you do the math and especially when in 50 years you have nothing to show for your money but that's another story. I will say that I have never been rude to any CM's ever but I do expect a lot for my hard earned money. If I were a DVC member and I git a dumpster view I would be devestated. I think what CM'c may forget it that for some this is a trip of a lifetime. I think even for DVC memebers it may be the only vacation they take each year and it means the world to them. They have worked all year and they want thier trip to be "magical". I know the view of your room can change the experience dramaticly. I want the best for my money. We work 200+ days a year for this one week of magic in time. I can see why people would get upset. When selling the DVC memebership they sure don't show you the dumpster view you may be getting. Maybe they shouldn't hard sell the DVC memberdhips so hard. Can people pay for differnet views or is it the luck of the draw?
The bottom line is that I don't think CM's realize how precious this week is to people some people. Feelings are bound to fly. I'm not saying it's right but it's going to happen. I would be ticked if I had bought into DVC and I got a dumpster view!!!



Frankly, a dumpster view is just fine with me, as long as it was convenient to transportation. Everyone has their priorities.

Sorry you think DVC is a rip. DVC might not make financial sense to you. For us, we go 3X a year. Not including the appreciation in the value of the points (which will reverse at some point), we'll be breaking even in about 4 years. Not bad. If you got in at the very beginning, you would've paid around $58/point (correct me if I'm wrong), AND gotten free admission for several years. I'm sure if those people sold their points now, they would've gotten FREE vacations and maybe even made a couple bucks.

As for not having anything to show after 50 years... did you ever rent an apartment? How about lease a car? There are some areas where you don't/can't own the land your house/condo is on and you have a 99 year lease. Are they bad investments, too? Did you ever purchase a beer? Heck, I consider THAT a very short term rental (if you know what I mean). :drinking:


As for the OP...

I think what some people may be mistaking for arrogance with DVC members is pride. We OWN (albeit a small part) these resorts. We take pride in ownership. It's not that we EXPECT to be treated better, it's just that if we see something wrong, something broken, we want it fixed - it's ours and we have a "pride in ownership."

Now, that being said, I'm certain that there ARE some people who are run by their egos, but I would think they are the minority. You get ANY 80,000 people and you're going to run the gambit.

However, if the OP's post is legitimate, and if there are other CM's that share that thought, they really should re-think their career choice. Dealing with the public is a VERY difficult job, and very often underpaid. It must be even more difficult working for Disney where everyone has such high expectations. No matter how hard you try, being an organization that large, there are going to be foul-ups, and unfortunately, some guests aren't going to be as understanding as others. That's life, and that's the career they chose. You're more often judged by how you handle a bad situation than a good one. If you're not a "people person" by nature, or you have a pre-conceived notion that DVC Members are a certain way, you're not a good fit to be in that job.

Alright, I'm stepping off my soapbox, now.
 
cstraub said:
I am not a DVC memeber and never will be. I think it is a rip when you do the math and especially when in 50 years you have nothing to show for your money...

Please, cstraub, share your math. Mine shows that I'll break-even on the initial investment in about 7 years, and then I'll be getting rooms for my maintenance fees alone. An 1100 sq ft Two Bedroom suite at my Home resort costs 27 points per night in December. With dues being $3.83 per point, I paid about $103 per night for that room with NO TAXES.

What type of a room can you get for $103???

I don't mean to be glib, but nearly 90,000 families have done the math and realized that DVC will save them a LOT of money on accommodations down the road--expiration date or no expiration date. That's not to say that DVC works for all people...but the one area that's difficult to question is the financial benefit it affords members.
 
This thread just keeps going and going and going and going....... :cool1:
 
Muushka said:
This thread just keeps going and going and going and going....... :cool1:


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If you compare DVC to a moderate with discount codes and take investment of your money (future value of money) into account, then you come up behind with DVC.

But if you compare to cost of a deluxe then you probably come out ahead financially. However, DVC has retained its value quite well. Considering that changes all the accounting in my opinion. If we got out now we would come out WAAAY ahead. Although that's not a guarantee for the future.

Our situation is unique in that we always get a 2BR -- even before buying DVC. So we break even quickly. (Even without considering the current value of our points if we sold them.)
 
calypso*a*go-go said:
What's with the delay...not quite done with the newspaper yet?

Or have you been too busy lounging around the pool?

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Hey, maybe we've come up with a theme for the next DVC resort -- RNV (Red Neck Villas). I'm sure the O.P. of this thread will want to transfer immediately!
 
calypso*a*go-go said:
Or have you been too busy lounging around the pool?

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Hey, maybe we've come up with a theme for the next DVC resort -- RNV (Red Neck Villas). I'm sure the O.P. of this thread will want to transfer immediately!

Too funny! :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

I wonder what the point structure will be at RNV???? :wave2:
 
RNV, I like it.....45 nights for 8 points maybe??? They'd be trailers with Christmas lights all year round!!!
 
OneMoreTry said:
take investment of your money (future value of money) into account, then you come up behind with DVC.

Anytime I've estimated the cost of my points, I'm always told that I'm wrong because I didn't calculate the investment value of my money. But, since I paid for my DVC by skipping several trips to the casino, which I normally lose at, I have a very difficult time calculating what I would have had. I'm certain however, that I wouldn't have had DVC, and probably wouldn't have the money that I used to pay for it either. Not everyone would have invested the money had they not bought DVC instead.
 
DVC as a good deal depends on when you go to Disney. We tend to go at Christmastime when there are rarely any kind of lodging discounts and rack rates are at their highest. I did my calculations of DVC as a prepaid vacation program and came out way ahead even of the value resorts. Add in the higher quality accomodations and not having to pay a large hotel bill each time, and I figure we come out just fine.
 
<big>Look, don't knock the Redneck Villas. At least they have a sit-down restaurant.</big>

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<big>BTW, tell the waitress it's your birthday and she'll bring ya this -</big>

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And if you want room service...just ring rinkwide's cowbell !!!
 
IsAreWasWereAm said:
Well, there's another resort that's gonna need a slide!
Hey we can combine this thread with the one with questions about bringing guests to the pool--I bet no one would mind if you brought guests to this particular "resort"!
 
I wonder if the cast members there will feel justification in being rude to guests at the red neck villas as they seem to do at BCV and WLVs.
 
I have an "in" and got this exclusive shot of the Front Desk CM's for the Resort:
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