Who Is Wrong In This Scenario...?

I know Halloween isn't a holiday the way Thanksgiving and Christmas are; since Halloween activites occur for just a couple of hours in the evening, people with "day jobs" don't have job conflict. If someone works evening shift, they can't really go trick-or-treating at 1 in the afternoon before they leave for work. What houses would be ready for trick-or-treaters that early?

The biggie though, is not so much the "holiday" aspect, but the "work" aspect. Halloween is the number one night for pedestrian vs. car accidents and I can only imagine how busy it must be for police officers. It's not fair to work for someone on a normal shift, and in return they have to work on a night when you'll be lucky to pee and no way will you get dinner. I'm working Halloween this year, and I already know I'd better eat a big meal before I leave the house, because it will be one ped vs car after another all night long.

When the guy said "any day" it probably didn't occur to him to exclude holidays; that's usually a given when you trade like that.

And...are police officers union? I don't think they are here, maybe they are in Detroit? I truly don't know, I'm not being snarky. I don't really know anything about unions. If there are union rules that would govern how the swap was done, then of course they should be followed, but since Guy B screwed the OPs husband earlier, my guess is either there aren't specific rules, or they aren't union workers.

Neither guy is OP's husband- I know I was confused by her reference to a switch her dh attempted earlier and her interest in the situation.
 
Neither guy is OP's husband- I know I was confused by her reference to a switch her dh attempted earlier and her interest in the situation.

Oh, I know neither Guy A nor Guy B are married to the OP, but I thought Guy B was the one who refused to switch with the OP's DH earlier this year, thus the karma reference (he wouldn't work for her DH, and now he can't get someone to work for him).
 
Oh, I know neither Guy A nor Guy B are married to the OP, but I thought Guy B was the one who refused to switch with the OP's DH earlier this year, thus the karma reference (he wouldn't work for her DH, and now he can't get someone to work for him).

Exactly. Karmic retribution. Would have posted all the facts on the OP, but I wanted an unbiased opinion. Now I see why! ;)
 

Holidays are swapped for holidays; regular days are swapped for regular days. Unless things have changed in the last few years, this was standard back when I was working. So saying "any day" wouldn't mean the same as "any day including a holiday", because the exception would be assumed.

Regardless of whether our government calls Halloween a holiday, if you have kids and you have plans, it's considered one. Throw in a job like police officer, and I really think the one guy was trying to take advantage of the other guy.
 
Exactly. Karmic retribution. Would have posted all the facts on the OP, but I wanted an unbiased opinion. Now I see why! ;)

What do you mean "now I see why" ? Nobody is out to get you Meg- some folks agreed with you and some didn't. Just like the real world.
 
What do you mean "now I see why" ? Nobody is out to get you Meg- some folks agreed with you and some didn't. Just like the real world.

THIS ISN'T THE REAL WORLD!?!?!? ;)

I'm kidding.

You are right! I just figured those who sided with him then would side with him now. It wasn't my most popular thread...
 
THIS ISN'T THE REAL WORLD!?!?!? ;)

I'm kidding.

You are right! I just figured those who sided with him then would side with him now. It wasn't my most popular thread...

I totally missed that one- I'm always late to the party!
 
Okay, I just noticed the detail above that apparently Guy B only took Guy A's shift so that Guy A would cover for him on Hallowe'en. If that's true, then he should have stated that when he took Guy A's shift. If he didn't, then why wouldn't he unless he knew Guy A would be resistant to working that particular night and so he waited until after he worked the shift and Guy A was on the hook to tell him what night he wanted. That's a pretty crummy thing to do, IMO.

Of course, we don't actually have any way to know that this was the only reason Guy B took Guy A's shift. We only have the say so of a very biased party (see other thread's about Guy B) who doesn't have access to the though process of Guy B and has a vested interest in painting guy B as a jerk who is getting "karmic retribution".

I see nothing wrong with asking for Hallowe'en for a shift exchange. I think any restrictions should have been mentioned up front by guy A, but assuming he actually means it this time when he says that he'll take any of Guy B's shifts (and does throw in any new restrictions when asked), I'd say it is more a matter of them both not getting the details they should have gotten rather than Guy A being a jerk. In no way do I see Guy B being a jerk.
 


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