Who Is Wrong In This Scenario...?

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A guy works opposite shifts with another guy.

Guy A asks Guy B to work a day for him so he can leave for a vacation early, in exchange, he will work any day for Guy B.

Guy B accepts.

Guy A comes back from his vacation and Guy B asks Guy A to work Halloween for him, as the day he is owed.

Guy A says, "Any day but Halloween. I have kids."

Guy B has no kids, but he had an event he wouldn't mind attending.

Was Guy B wrong to ask for Halloween, or was Guy A wrong to decline?
 
A guy works opposite shifts with another guy.

Guy A asks Guy B to work a day for him so he can leave for a vacation early, in exchange, he will work any day for Guy B.

Guy B accepts.

Guy A comes back from his vacation and Guy B asks Guy A to work Halloween for him, as the day he is owed.

Guy A says, "Any day but Halloween. I have kids."

Guy B has no kids, but he had an event he wouldn't mind attending.

Was Guy B wrong to ask for Halloween, or was Guy A wrong to decline?

In my opinion Guy A is wrong for decline, he made an agreement and said he would work any day for the other guy know he needs to do it
 
Wrong to ask for halloween, no.
Wrong to decline, no. I'm sure if it were any other type of "special day" that'd be declined too.....
Just seems they should have talked it out better, before agreeing.....lesson learned I guess...not worth ruining an otherwise good working relationship over........
Hope it works out!
 
Well, I think it's tacky of Guy A to decline to pay him back the day but...if I were Guy B I might let it slide if the guy has plans with his kids. That said, Guys A and B should have firmed up the date for the payback before striking a deal (IMO) and due to that not happening Guy B could insist, he just might lose a friend.
 

Sometimes guy B just needs to chalk it up to a nice little chunk of extra change in his paycheck.

Guy A should take it, and probably should've said something prior to the "any day" agreement.

But if Guy A doesn't show up for Guy B's shift... Guy B is going to be the one in trouble. Unless the shift change was approved by a manager, and the responsibility falls on guy A.
 
Well, I think it's tacky of Guy A to decline to pay him back the day but...if I were Guy B I might let it slide if the guy has plans with his kids. That said, Guys A and B should have firmed up the date for the payback before striking a deal (IMO) and due to that not happening Guy B could insist, he just might lose a friend.

What she said. :)
 
It's funny, because Guy B is the same guy who wouldn't help my husband out earlier this year, and now he's mad that he can't go to his Halloween party. It's apparently the only reason he worked for Guy A.

I think it's HIS turn to chalk it up to, "That's Life".

Karma is a... Well... ;)
 
I dont think either are wrong. The guy can ask but the other guy shouldn't be expected to give up a day he has plans with his kids already. The the first guy give up a holiday or desired event or just another shift at work?
 
It's funny, because Guy B is the same guy who wouldn't help my husband out earlier this year, and now he's mad that he can't go to his Halloween party. It's apparently the only reason he worked for Guy A.
I think it's HIS turn to chalk it up to, "That's Life".

Karma is a... Well... ;)

In that case, he should have said something when he agreed to work for Guy A - that Halloween was the day he wanted in return. Guy A might have decided leaving one day early wasn't worth that.

As it stands, I agree with everyone saying it wasn't wrong of Guy B to ask for Halloween, but it also wasn't wrong of Guy A to decline. Guy B worked a "regular" day, but he wants a holiday in exchange. No dice in my book. Not sure what kind of work it is, but where I work, Halloween can be crazy busy. I don't think I would trade a normal day for Halloween.
 
I had a co-worker with a shift that overlaped mine by 2 hours ask me to do that. It would require me to work a 14 hour day, and her a 14 hour day in return. She was trying to figure out a way to do it where she would only have to work 8 hours for me, which would be impossible, plus the company would be paying for 2 hours work (the overlap time )both days that nobody was doing. I said I'd do whatever the boss approved (at which point she dropped it).

We just had a mess at my current job because someone did a day swap and didn't have clear with the boss so it would be put in the schedule. I called him in at 3 am, on the day he was supposed to be off, he tells me "call in so and so, he's covering for me"....which I couldn't do because I had called in so and so at 2 am!
 
I do not think you can trade a holiday for a reg. day. However both are wrong.

First the holiday should have been made clear that it was wanted in the trade upfront.

Also other guy should not have said "any day" because that was not true.
 
A guy works opposite shifts with another guy.

Guy A asks Guy B to work a day for him so he can leave for a vacation early, in exchange, he will work any day for Guy B.

Guy B accepts.

Guy A comes back from his vacation and Guy B asks Guy A to work Halloween for him, as the day he is owed.

Guy A says, "Any day but Halloween. I have kids."

Guy B has no kids, but he had an event he wouldn't mind attending.

Was Guy B wrong to ask for Halloween, or was Guy A wrong to decline?

If Guy A really said he would work "any day" in exchange and then later said, "well, any day BUT Halloween" then, yeah, Guy A is wrong and probably won't have Guy B helping him out anymore.
 
In that case, he should have said something when he agreed to work for Guy A - that Halloween was the day he wanted in return. Guy A might have decided leaving one day early wasn't worth that.

As it stands, I agree with everyone saying it wasn't wrong of Guy B to ask for Halloween, but it also wasn't wrong of Guy A to decline. Guy B worked a "regular" day, but he wants a holiday in exchange. No dice in my book. Not sure what kind of work it is, but where I work, Halloween can be crazy busy. I don't think I would trade a normal day for Halloween.

This:thumbsup2

I am guessing it is police work in the Detroit area--which based on my experience when we lived there was probably not a shift anyone would want.
 
In that case, he should have said something when he agreed to work for Guy A - that Halloween was the day he wanted in return. Guy A might have decided leaving one day early wasn't worth that.

This.
 
A guy works opposite shifts with another guy.

Guy A asks Guy B to work a day for him so he can leave for a vacation early, in exchange, he will work any day for Guy B.

Guy B accepts.

Guy A comes back from his vacation and Guy B asks Guy A to work Halloween for him, as the day he is owed.

Guy A says, "Any day but Halloween. I have kids."

Guy B has no kids, but he had an event he wouldn't mind attending.

Was Guy B wrong to ask for Halloween, or was Guy A wrong to decline?

He said "any day" which means, any day. Guy B did A a favor and now A is renigging. If I were guy B, I would not do another favor for A.

As far as Halloween being a "Holiday" it's not one that folks get off from work- so I don't think it really counts as a holiday in the workplace.
 
Niether is wrong. There's nothing wrong with asking for Halloween. Nor is there anything wrong with saying "no." I suspect he promised to trade for a day, not any day no matter what.

Now if B is insisting that A take Halloween off and is being a brat, then B is in the wrong.
 
Halloween is an important holiday for those of us with kids, so I think he was right to decline, and offer to work a non-holiday for the guy.
 
Halloween is an important holiday for those of us with kids, so I think he was right to decline, and offer to work a non-holiday for the guy.

I know- I have had to miss Halloween due to work obligations before.

I still say that A said he would work ANY DAY and if I'm reading this right the OP is A's wife, so she is admitting he said ANY DAY. He didn't say "I will work ANY DAY for you- if it's convenient for me." He didn't say, "ANY DAY except Halloween". By saying "ANY DAY" he is leaving the choice of day totally in B's hands. He is going back on his word.
 
I do not think you can trade a holiday for a reg. day. However both are wrong.

First the holiday should have been made clear that it was wanted in the trade upfront.

Also other guy should not have said "any day" because that was not true.


Are there jobs that consider Halloween a holiday?
 
I do not think you can trade a holiday for a reg. day. However both are wrong.

First the holiday should have been made clear that it was wanted in the trade upfront.

Also other guy should not have said "any day" because that was not true.

since when is haloween a holiday?
 

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