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A newcomer to national politics, he claimed to transcend partisan labels. He moved to the center during the campaign, at a time when the Democrats held large congressional majorities. In a troubled economy, he told voters he would keep taxes down for most Americans, limit spending, and balance the budget, all while implementing ambitious social programs. He planned to cut military spending to free money for other purposes, but assured moderates and conservatives that when it came to America’s enemies, he would be tougher than the Republicans. The media, droves of moderates, and some conservatives believed him, having pegged him as a man of character.

























His name was Jimmy Carter, the year was 1976, and he won. His presidency helps us predict the likely results of an Obama victory in 2008.

What did the majority of 1976 get in return for its votes? Carter’s campaign vow to avoid increasing payroll taxes went out the window: He and Congress raised Social Security taxes through the roof. They also slapped large new taxes on oil and gas. Meanwhile, Carter canceled his plan for a tax refund to Americans earning under $30,000. Casting aside more campaign pledges, Carter and Congress increased annual federal spending from $403 billion to $579 billion and grew the national debt from $709 billion to $914 billion. Tens of billions of dollars went to new jobs programs, urban aid, and mushrooming entitlements, and Carter’s promise to stop Democratic pork-barrel spending was abandoned.

Carter and the Democratic Congress generated 18 percent inflation and economic stagnation at the same time. Unemployment rose. Americans came to regret the votes they had cast — Carter’s approval rating sank to 21 percent in 1980, the lowest in the history of polling.

Carter also threw out his professed hawkishness on foreign policy. Declaring America liberated from its “inordinate fear of Communism,” he sought better relations with the Communists in the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, and Vietnam. He was much less nice to America’s allies, withdrawing support from those who did not accept his self-righteous demands for human-rights reforms. Friendly regimes in Nicaragua and Iran fell to hostile tyrants.

If Obama abandons his promises the way Carter did, his presidency will be even more dangerous. Carter at least had longstanding tendencies toward fiscal restraint, and he, together with a large block of conservative Democrats in Congress, prevented the most left-wing elements of Congress from taxing and spending even more. Obama, on the other hand, has himself been part of the most left-wing element in the U.S. Senate, and conservatives do not have a significant presence on the Democratic side of the Reid-Pelosi Congress. Also, Obama has no history of breaking with his party before this year.

There are reasons to believe Obama will indeed break his promises. In March, he told the American public he would force Canada and Mexico to make concessions on NAFTA. Obama’s senior economic adviser privately assured Canadian officials that Obama’s public promises were “more reflective of political maneuvering than policy.” In the ensuing months, Obama likewise sent contradictory messages to different audiences on such issues as taxes, Iraq, and crime.

In the second presidential debate, Obama made the most flagrant of his bogus promises yet, when he announced a “net spending cut.” The National Taxpayers Union has estimated that Obama will actually produce a net spending increase of at least $292 billion per year. Although the press would have pilloried McCain for such a brazen falsehood, Obama took so little heat that he repeated it again at the third debate.

Also during the third debate, Obama distanced himself from ACORN, denying any involvement with this organization since 1995. But as Sen. McCain pointed out, the Obama campaign paid $832,000 to an ACORN subsidiary earlier this year. Most ominous for the future is Obama’s statement to the Heartland Presidential Forum — which consists of ACORN and other leftist “community organizations” — that as soon as he wins the election, “we'll be calling all of you in to help us shape the agenda.”

Perhaps most incriminating of all is Joe Biden’s Seattle speech. In words that received less media attention than the “international testing” remarks, Biden asserted that an Obama administration would make unpopular decisions, because “if they're popular, they’re probably not sound.” As a consequence, “You all are going to be sitting here a year from now going, ‘Oh my God, why are they there in the polls, why is the polling so down?’” In other words, Obama’s poll numbers will fall once Americans learn that his popular promises of 2008 have been supplanted in 2009 by actions that most Americans oppose.

Before casting a vote for Obama, Americans must consider the likelihood that he will follow the path of Jimmy Carter — that he will wreck the fragile economy by reneging on promises to cut taxes and spending, that he will be tough on America’s allies and soft on its enemies. The odds of Obama staying true to his current rhetoric are so poor that not even the boldest gambler should bet on it.
 
There's a lot of young voters out there. Those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it. :sick:
 
I do know my history, and I know that I don't want a repeat of the past 8 years.
 

Very loose comparison with Carter.

I can do a much tighter McCain/Bush comparison, matches up over 90% of the time. And it is on record on actual issues. Not just rhetoric.
 
There's a lot of young voters out there. Those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it. :sick:


There always that "I have to see it to believe it" group. Unfortunately many have to learn the hard way:confused3 . I just hope their life lesson doesn't destroy our country.

Tina
 
I do know my history, and I know that I don't want a repeat of the past 8 years.

I do remember Carter, but I will remember the last 8 years a LOT longer. Carter's "mismanagement" (to the extent that I agree he mismanaged things) is NOTHING in comparison to W's.

And I certainly can remember many other Democratic presidents who did a superb job.
 
I do remember Carter, but I will remember the last 8 years a LOT longer. Carter's "mismanagement" (to the extent that I agree he mismanaged things) is NOTHING in comparison to W's.

And I certainly can remember many other Democratic presidents who did a superb job.


Easier to remember the last 8 years because you are still in it....think back hard about Carter and things in this article will come to light....


I remember Carter well and voted for him....I was saddened by how he changed when in office.....he was always remembered as the worst POTUS and the one that broke his word the most....but he was a kind man and a good christian...just a bad POTUS...

I see alot of what Obama says and does as Jimmy Carter did.....I am glad to not be voting in that direction again...looks like I learned my lesson.

And as for Bush.....he is my least favorite and have nothing good to say about him...but also want to add that McCain is no Bush...if he was he would not be getting my vote.
 
knowing your history of Carter and living through a Presidency of Carter is to different things....

just like 30 years from know and living through a Bush Presidency will be different for the younger ones that have read about it and not lived through it....the experience is different....
 
Yes, history repeats itself, when one doesn't study it to avoid the same mistakes.

I believe that Obama will be well aware of recent history, and will not repeat the mistakes of the past eight years. ;)
 
Yes, history repeats itself, when one doesn't study it to avoid the same mistakes.

I believe that Obama will be well aware of recent history, and will not repeat the mistakes of the past eight years. ;)

but we are not talking about Bush and repeating the last 8 years....we are talking about repeating the Carter years...
 
[QUOTE="Got Disney";28351313]Easier to remember the last 8 years because you are still in it....think back hard about Carter and things in this article will come to light....


I remember Carter well and voted for him....I was saddened by how he changed when in office.....he was always remembered as the worst POTUS and the one that broke his word the most....but he was a kind man and a good christian...just a bad POTUS...

I see alot of what Obama says and does as Jimmy Carter did.....I am glad to not be voting in that direction again...looks like I learned my lesson.

And as for Bush.....he is my least favorite and have nothing good to say about him...but also want to add that McCain is no Bush...if he was he would not be getting my vote.[/QUOTE]

Hi Robin - long time no speak!

Just as you believe McCain is not the same as Bush - many of us believe that Obama is no Jimmy Carter.

Though I'd like to add a disclaimer that President Carter has been a more effective ex-President than President. He has contributed a lot to world peace and has been a innovative force in eliminating homelessness.
 


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