Which camera to buy....a list of 3 possibilities? Kelly?

Mickey Fliers

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Now I am trying to decide between the Canon Powershot S2 IS, the Sony Cybershot DSC-H1 and the Fuji S5200. I love my current Sony, but I need something will a little more zoom.

Does anyone have any experience with any of these cameras?

Thanks for the help
 
Have you looked at the H5? I just got the camera and like it. It is a 7.2 MP and the zoom is 36 - 432 mm. Goes for about $499.00 Its sister camera is the H2 and is 6 MP and is $100.00 less.

The Tele extender from Sony has a factor of 1.7 or 734 mm max zoom,

I took my wife to a baby shower last week and got fed. Of course I had to take pictures. I found out how good the flash is. The walls were windows and of course the outside light was throwing off the exposure. The typical backlight situation. Luckily I remembered my wedding photo days and used the flash. I was getting perfect exposures at about up to 30 feet out. I left the ISO on auto and was getting clean shots at ISO 320.
 
My comparison of H5 vs S3 can be found here (the difference between S2 and S3 is only ISO 800 capability on the S3 and gun-metal colour). In short, I personally wouldn't touch the H5.

Between S2 and S5200 is really a toss up. I really can't decide between the two. One one hand the S5200 fits better in my hand so less of an Image Stabilizer required. On the other, the S2 got IS, at beyond 300mm equivalent, either supersteady hand or IS is required.

For my hand size, I'd choose S5200 over S2 IS (I know, I know, I'm a Canon user, but when a product is good, what can I say? I have big hands with nerve problem making the use of S2/3 IS almost impossible.)

In terms of picture quality, when the perfect lighting is available, the S5200 is BETTER than S2 IS, but for average lighting condition, they are both the same. Low light high ISO performance, S2 IS is slightly WORSE than S5200 BUT (here's the big BUT), Imagenomic Noiseware can clean the noise of the S2 IS better than the S5200. Don't ask me why, it's just is.

PS: after the other thread's fiasco, I'll only reply to "which camera to buy" or "is this a good camera" threads if I'm invited via PM, e-mail or it's part of the title just like this one.

Cheers!

PPS: S2 IS does NOT have 3:2 mode, so you'll have to approximate the 3:2 area when you're taking the pic. I use car window tint to mark the "safe-area" for 3:2 photo shooting on my A95 LCD (also doesn't have 3:2 mode).
 

Thanks, Kelly, just the info I was looking for. My neighbor has the S5200 and I was playing with it today. I really liked the feel in my hand as well. It also seemed relatively easy to use. That is, of course, once you know HOW to use it.

Thanks again :thumbsup2
 
Mickey Fliers said:
Thanks, Kelly, just the info I was looking for. My neighbor has the S5200 and I was playing with it today. I really liked the feel in my hand as well. It also seemed relatively easy to use. That is, of course, once you know HOW to use it.

Thanks again :thumbsup2

FWIW, if you want to see what the S5200 can do despite being used by an inept photographer, check out some of the POTD posts made by some clown named YEKCIM, in the past month or so. There are LOTS of better photos by LOTS of better photographers, but I don't see many other S5200 posts on this board for some reason, so all I can offer to point you to are mine. It is a bargain, IMO, for ~$230, online, shipped. Not the best camera out there, but certainly not the worst. At any rate, I had a blast shooting everything in site during our July visit...around 2K pix in six days in the parks!

~YEKCIM
 
YEKCIM said:
FWIW, if you want to see what the S5200 can do despite being used by an inept photographer...

~YEKCIM

yeah, sure you are inept :rolleyes: As my DH used to say "dude, you're good!" :banana:
 
Kelly Grannell said:
yeah, sure you are inept :rolleyes: As my DH used to say "dude, you're good!" :banana:

Thank you, Kelly; that is very kind of you to say so, and I consider that a great compliment, considering your expertise. Good or not, I had a ball with my little Fuji last month and, to be honest, I enjoyed the picture-taking as much as any aspect of the trip, with the possible exception of finding air conditioned rides!

~YEKCIM
 
I have always love fuji products. Back when I was shooting with a film SLR i used only Fuji film. When I bought my first digital I bought a Fuji S2000. Upgraded to the S5200 in March and I LOVE IT. There are so many options (I'm still learning about them. I like to learn by using :) ). So you can use the easy auto settings if you are not up to messing with the camera or go more in depth with other settings.

I'm totally impressed with the zoom on the S5200. Below is a picture taken at Disney's California Adventure in the Hyperion Theater. I would say I was about 20 rows from the stage. I had the camera set on the anti-blur setting with no flash. To give you an idea about how far we were away I'm posting a distant picture first. I did zoom in a tad on this one. Then next the up close picture.

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I also could go on how much I love the night setting and continuous shot settings. I can't tell you how much I love my firework shots!
Take Care
Jamie
 
YEKCIM said:
There are LOTS of better photos by LOTS of better photographers, but I don't see many other S5200 posts on this board for some reason, so all I can offer to point you to are mine. It is a bargain, IMO, for ~$230, online, shipped
~YEKCIM

Wow Yekcim thats a good price on that. I bought my 5200 in March. After looking online and in stores all were about $400. I did find one site that I could have saved about $50 but seeing I was leaving in a week for Disneyland and my S2000 broke (son pushed in the retactable lense when putting the lens cap on while the camera was still on) I wanted to be sure I would have the camera and time to get used to it.

Take Care
Jamie

PS you will be seeing more 5200 pictures in the future now that I have discovered the photography board.
 
StrwLady said:
Wow Yekcim thats a good price on that. I bought my 5200 in March. After looking online and in stores all were about $400. I did find one site that I could have saved about $50 but seeing I was leaving in a week for Disneyland and my S2000 broke (son pushed in the retactable lense when putting the lens cap on while the camera was still on) I wanted to be sure I would have the camera and time to get used to it.

Take Care
Jamie

PS you will be seeing more 5200 pictures in the future now that I have discovered the photography board.

Jamie,

I bought mine in February, if memory serves. Got it online for ~$260, but had a $50 rebate, which is what decided the matter in favor of the Fuji. I have not regretted it. For what I paid, it is an amazing camera, and I have been well pleased with it, especially with the shots it got me at WDW in July. And, you are right...the long zoom is of great value. The majority of my shots were at the long-ish end. My WDW 06 album is: http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/fasteddiew/DisneyWorld 2006/ if you are interested in seeing it. All made with S5200.

Have a good weekend.

~YEKCIM
 
YEKCIM-

Those shots are all great. I just ordered my S5200 and I can't wait to get in my hands. I have a lot of work to do. Let me ask, if I may, how do you get such great shots inside the attractions ie: COP? What settings are you using? Same thing goes for parade shots. I am going to need all the help I can get.

Thanks again!!!
 
Mickey Fliers said:
YEKCIM-

Those shots are all great. I just ordered my S5200 and I can't wait to get in my hands. I have a lot of work to do. Let me ask, if I may, how do you get such great shots inside the attractions ie: COP? What settings are you using? Same thing goes for parade shots. I am going to need all the help I can get.

Thanks again!!!

Well for starters, with apologies to Kelly, Read The Fantastic Manual which, by the way, you can download in pdf format, if you want to get a jump start on the learning curve, while waiting for the brown truck. Just google "S5200 manual pdf".

Next, spend a lot of time getting to know your camera (true for any camera you buy). Since you are not buying film, you can shoot all the "test" shots you want, and not spend an extra cent (you *have* bought adequate xD memory cards and rechargeable 2500MaH AA's haven't you???). Read the manual, and try different settings, focal lengths, ISO's, macro, you name it. I especially recommend the "CHROME" setting, accessed via the "f" button on the back of the camera, along with ISO and something else...I forget what; guess "f" is for "forgetful". All my WDW pix were shot in Chrome mode; in fact, I just leave it on that setting...gives more "punch" to your colors. Another useful goodie that the S5200 offers, IMO, are the optional "grid" lines in the viewfinder, that help you keep things straight. The default vf setup is w/o the grid, so you'll have to activate it in the menu system, if you want to use it. Once activated, it is always in place unless and until you turn it off.

Be prepared to do some minor PP (post processing). I currently use Picasa2 (free d/l) for cropping, straightening, auto-contrast, and sharpening. Use whatever photo editing software you wish, but use it enough to get familiar with its capabilities.

Finally, concerning the low light (COP and others) pix, I use ISO 800 max, and try to stay at 200 or below if the lighting permits. The 5200 has ISO 1600 but it is very noisy...not bad for a $225 point and shoot (most P&S don't even HAVE 1600), but still noisy, unless you are just going to make tiny prints.

As an example of what digital allows you to do, see the Epcot shot below. I've seen better examples on this board, but I've seen lots worse, too. Two things I did to get this shot, and both were b/c I did not carry a tripod. First, I used ISO 800; second, I took about 15 identical shots, on the assumption that I'd have some camera shake in all of them, but if I got lucky, maybe one would be less "shaky" than the others. This is the result:

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Not a great shot, to be sure, but I'm happy with it and, w/o digital, I'd never have done this well. No way I'd have shot half a roll of film (if I even had used ISO 800 film) on one subject like this.

One final note on the S5200, and I'm done for (Wilbur). The popup flash does produce some good results, *sometimes*, but I have not found it to be too reliable in exposure accuracy, and the range is very limited. Again, test it...it won't cost ya nothin'. Try the slow shutter sync flash, too. It works well, most of the time, and WDW at night is a great place to use it, with something like Mickey's Castle or SSE behind the person whose picture you are taking.

Whew...my carpal tunnel is kicking in, so I'll stop here. If I can help further, lemme know.

~YEKCIM
 
I purchased the Canon Powershot S2IS about 8 months ago. I love it! It'll be making it's first trip to the world the end of Sept!
 
That's going to be my problem, getting three little boys to stand still long enough to take 15 shots for that one great one ;) .

What I have noticed with my current photography (read: "Auto") is that in dark places, only the subject (my children) get illuminated. We went to some caves last July that ran 110 ft. under ground. Typical limestone, stalagmites, stalagtites, etc. All of my pics came out terrible. I just didn't know how to use my camera well enough. Same thing goes for most of the Christmas pics I took at Disney. Any lights or anything in a hotel lobby, came out like junk. I guess I will just have to practice, practice, practice before my trip in Feb.

Thanks again for all the tips and advice. I will be posting a lot of examples so I can obtain some helpful criticism on how to make some shots better.

:thumbsup2
 
to overcome that problem, if you use P&S use something called Night Snapshot (NOT night mode). If you don't have that mode, crank up the ISO to at least 400 and use fill-in flash.

This way you'll get the subject in the foreground and objects in the background too.
 














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