When will I learn to stop inviting people

BirdsOfPreyDave

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Vent alert...

We really do love to travel with family and friends, but the stress level is pretty high to make it all come together. People just don't seem to get it when you tell them, "I need a firm commitment. I'm borrowing points to get the extra room for you. I could lose them if you cancel on me."

Second year in a row that the group we invited has bailed on us. (Different groups, same stress.) For this year's trip, we started with a group of 6. The first couple cancelled on the day I was going to call for the booking. I guess I scared them enough with the "firm commitment" part. They weren't sure if they'd be able to save enough by summer for their park tickets and food. Fair enough. We told them to start a vacation fund and we'd keep them in mind for another year. The second couple told us they were definitely still in, so I went ahead and booked the two-bedroom.

I absolutely don't blame them for having to cancel. He had a bad case of pancreatitis a few months ago, and spent nearly a week in the hospital. I can understand how the unexpected hospital bills would affect their ability to afford a trip to Disney World.

I sent them a note on Facebook the other days saying, "90 days until Disney World! Is everyone excited about the trip?" They replied back about how sorry they were, but they'd have to cancel. I'm glad I didn't wait until 30 days out to send the "excited yet" message. The most upsetting part, though, is that we were really looking forward to vacationing with them. All four of them, actually. I guess we’ll have that to look forward to another year.

I’ve just gotten off the phone with Member Services, and in the end, everything worked out. We decided to go on our own instead of finding someone to take the second bedroom. I cancelled the dedicated two-bedroom, and was able to re-use all the borrowed points for the studios. I'll be able to bank the other points, so nothing lost. The only down side is that we have a multiple split stay, now. Unless the pixie dust comes through on a waitlist request, we'll have to move twice in the 12 days we'll be there. This will be an inconvenience, but it isn’t the end of the world. I'm just glad we were still able to get a Savanna view at Animal Kingdom for part of the trip. The silver lining is that we also managed to get 5 nights at Bay Lake, which we’ve really wanted to try. We’ll be in a lake view room, there. Unfortunately, those 5 Bay Lake Tower nights are in the middle of the stay, so unless the waitlist comes through, we're packing again to head back to Animal Kingdom for the last 3 days.

End of vent.
 
Sounds like you're a good person - I hope your wait list comes through!

I wouldn't even offer for future trips unless they ask first, then you know they're serious about wanting to go!
 
I wish our friends WOULD have bailed on us last November. :rotfl2:

The short version. Ten day trip in a two bedroom AKL Villa. First night there my friend (of 30 years) and I are down at the pool. My wife and Lady ex are up in the room getting ready to join us when lady ex drops the bomb. She has met another man and is leaving her husband after the vacation. Nice. Thank God it was a two bedroom lock-off.
 
Vent alert...

We really do love to travel with family and friends, but the stress level is pretty high to make it all come together. People just don't seem to get it when you tell them, "I need a firm commitment. I'm borrowing points to get the extra room for you. I could lose them if you cancel on me."

Second year in a row that the group we invited has bailed on us. (Different groups, same stress.) For this year's trip, we started with a group of 6. The first couple cancelled on the day I was going to call for the booking. I guess I scared them enough with the "firm commitment" part. They weren't sure if they'd be able to save enough by summer for their park tickets and food. Fair enough. We told them to start a vacation fund and we'd keep them in mind for another year. The second couple told us they were definitely still in, so I went ahead and booked the two-bedroom.

I absolutely don't blame them for having to cancel. He had a bad case of pancreatitis a few months ago, and spent nearly a week in the hospital. I can understand how the unexpected hospital bills would affect their ability to afford a trip to Disney World.

I sent them a note on Facebook the other days saying, "90 days until Disney World! Is everyone excited about the trip?" They replied back about how sorry they were, but they'd have to cancel. I'm glad I didn't wait until 30 days out to send the "excited yet" message. The most upsetting part, though, is that we were really looking forward to vacationing with them. All four of them, actually. I guess we’ll have that to look forward to another year.

I’ve just gotten off the phone with Member Services, and in the end, everything worked out. We decided to go on our own instead of finding someone to take the second bedroom. I cancelled the dedicated two-bedroom, and was able to re-use all the borrowed points for the studios. I'll be able to bank the other points, so nothing lost. The only down side is that we have a multiple split stay, now. Unless the pixie dust comes through on a waitlist request, we'll have to move twice in the 12 days we'll be there. This will be an inconvenience, but it isn’t the end of the world. I'm just glad we were still able to get a Savanna view at Animal Kingdom for part of the trip. The silver lining is that we also managed to get 5 nights at Bay Lake, which we’ve really wanted to try. We’ll be in a lake view room, there. Unfortunately, those 5 Bay Lake Tower nights are in the middle of the stay, so unless the waitlist comes through, we'll packing again to head back to Animal Kingdom for the last 3 days.

End of vent.

God luv ya! You just want to share something you enjoy so much with other people. I'll bet you're a wonderful friend. As you said, moving isn't the end of the world. Sometimes there are unexpected blessings that come out of what first look to be inconveniences. Pixie dust to you. :wizard:
 

I think this or something similar has happened to just about all of us. When it works out, it's wonderful. When it doesn't.........:headache:

Go and have a stress-free vacation at your "Happy Place". :goodvibes
 
I'm glad things worked out for you pointwise, and I hope your waitlist comes through. Here's hoping it does work out that you and your friends can vacation together someday.

Bobbi:goodvibes
 
Bless your little furry heart!:goodvibes

My brother in law knows we own at WDW. He is planning on going this Dec. I said I would be more than happy to book a villa for them.

BUT (there is always a but!) he would have to commit now and not change the dates. Period. I don't think he could handle that type of commitment (a lot of people can't) so I don't think he will take us up on the offer.

We have actually had several vacations with friends and family and everyone came when they said they would. It does happen!

Best wishes :cloud9:
 
We'll either have a full house, or it will just be my DW and me at THV in December. A big place like that will be more fun with our siblings / in-laws, but I'm sure not going to lose sleep (or points) over their inability to commit. Of course future invitations depend on satisfactory attendance. Wish us luck!
 
The short version. Ten day trip in a two bedroom AKL Villa. First night there my friend (of 30 years) and I are down at the pool. My wife and Lady ex are up in the room getting ready to join us when lady ex drops the bomb. She has met another man and is leaving her husband after the vacation. Nice. Thank God it was a two bedroom lock-off.
:eek:
 
That is truly a bummer! I know how much we enjoy vacationing with certain friends and family (and ones we don't lol) We are new to dvc and already have big plans to travel with friends and family so seeing your post make me realize how important it is to get a firm commitment.
 
It always amazes me that people will bail on a Disney vacation with free accomodations! I know there can be unexpected financial problems but I would eat Spaghettios for a month if it meant saving money for a Disney trip!
 
Sounds like you have my problem. We bought DVC in Feb. of '09. We planned THREE different trips since then using points for a 2br for various friends and family and NONE of the people went!!!!! The worse thing is they waited until 1-2 weeks before check-in to tell us so we couldn't downgrade to a smaller room and save points because with our work schedule putting them in a holding account equals losing them for us! So, I'd LOVE to have "company" but not sure if I am willing to try this again.

BTW- We DID have the conversation with each and every group the details of how this works...and we MUST be sure before 30 days hit. I emailed and confirmed each time at 60, 45, and 31 days. All were ready!!!!!
 
I was asked about menus. I emailed menus to all, took votes from the group -check. Logged in at 180 days, made ADRS, emailed the reservation numbers to all, etc. :wizard: What else could I have done?
 
I guess people are funny that way, I bet if they had 3000.00 riding on a 7 night cruise and would lose all or part of their payment due to cancelling they would find a way to go! I think people are looking at it as "oh it is a time share, it is already paid for".

My husband suggested when we bought in that if our family and friends want to travel with us we ask them for a set amount per night to help cover maintance fees, say 50.00 per night.(a deal for them) I am thinking that might not be a bad idea because if they have to invest some of their own money up front they maybe less likely to back out.
 
I feel your pain, I have tried in vain for several years to get some of my family to come with us, to no avail. They just don't "get" it, and they never will, because they won't come try it the right way. All they can think of is big crowds and screaming kids. I wish I could convince them otherwise.
 
I was asked about menus. I emailed menus to all, took votes from the group -check. Logged in at 180 days, made ADRS, emailed the reservation numbers to all, etc. :wizard: What else could I have done?

What else? Never invite any of these people again. I'll go, though. ;)
 
I'm sure my DH wishes I would quit inviting others too! So far I've salvaged our points or found others to go instead. We once had a 2 bdrm II exchange to Kauai and my sister pulled out. Luckily DH cousins decided to join us so it didn't go to waste.

We've also had many great trips with extended family and friends too!
 
We LOVE having others join us at WDW, but we must have impressed everyone with the "no cancellation" talk, because in 13 years, we've only had one group bail on us, and that time we were able to find another to go along. The rule here is if you bail, you will NOT get another chance! I've had one large group join us twice. I prefer to keep the invites to another couple or small family though. We've kind of exhausted our groups though, so now we mostly travel with just the two of us or sometimes our adult kids.
 
It always amazes me that people will bail on a Disney vacation with free accomodations! I know there can be unexpected financial problems but I would eat Spaghettios for a month if it meant saving money for a Disney trip!

...and I do!.....
 
I guess people are funny that way, I bet if they had 3000.00 riding on a 7 night cruise and would lose all or part of their payment due to cancelling they would find a way to go! I think people are looking at it as "oh it is a time share, it is already paid for".

My husband suggested when we bought in that if our family and friends want to travel with us we ask them for a set amount per night to help cover maintance fees, say 50.00 per night.(a deal for them) I am thinking that might not be a bad idea because if they have to invest some of their own money up front they maybe less likely to back out.

I've yet to bite the bullet and invite someone else to go. We're planning on going with a friend next year but I know she's definitely in because it'd be for a few days before a cruise (which she's paying for). I think that's a great idea. Or maybe even use the cost of a value room for the same dates as a baseline. If you feel awkward about taking $ from them, you can always return it AFTER the trip as a bonus surprise.

What else? Never invite any of these people again. I'll go, though. ;)

Me too!!
 
















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