When do you think the border will reopen?

[ilovetotravel1977]

If I didn't already have $1800 in WDW gift cards, two 5-day WDW passes and flights booked to Orlando, I wouldn't even be looking at traveling there anytime soon.

 

[quandrea]

I think there are many aspects of all of this that make Canadians, and many others from around the world, say they'll be travelling elsewhere when this is all over. I've read some good articles this summer discussing how ultimately, the US has become the world's laughing-stock, and how the "American Reign" has ended. It's no secret that the world's view of the US has definitely been declining in the last few years, and Covid definitely worsened that. As far as travel, we (Canadians in general) have always been more than happy to give Americans our travel money because they offer something we just don't have (warm sunny beaches and Disney - okay, two things, lol) and travel and shopping is much cheaper there. Which is really the main reason for many. As a bonus, traveling to the US is preferable to some over going anywhere else because it's safe, familiar and comfortable, since it's not too different than home. However, I think the American response to Covid really was a slap in the face in many ways to our country, and others, and have really made us rethink our impressions of the US, and our own values as far as what we want to support/don't want to support via our dollars etc...

Agree with this. If it were not for our dvc, I don’t think we’d be considering heading back. We are even thinking of selling dvc. We will wait a bit to see how things shake down, but selling is a real possibility. Breaks my heart, but the US is not really an attractive place to be at this time. The east or west coast of Canada look really good to me as vacation destinations.

 

[wdwmom3]

I really don't see it happening until next spring. I mean, it's definitely not going to be this fall, because numbers aren't good enough. And then odds are it's not going to be during winter (cold/flu season), either, due to increased risk, and the chances that we'll all be heading for a second spike. So, realistically, I just don't see it opening until the end of the cold/flu season which means next March/April.




I think there are many aspects of all of this that make Canadians, and many others from around the world, say they'll be travelling elsewhere when this is all over. I've read some good articles this summer discussing how ultimately, the US has become the world's laughing-stock, and how the "American Reign" has ended. It's no secret that the world's view of the US has definitely been declining in the last few years, and Covid definitely worsened that. As far as travel, we (Canadians in general) have always been more than happy to give Americans our travel money because they offer something we just don't have (warm sunny beaches and Disney - okay, two things, lol) and travel and shopping is much cheaper there. Which is really the main reason for many. As a bonus, traveling to the US is preferable to some over going anywhere else because it's safe, familiar and comfortable, since it's not too different than home. However, I think the American response to Covid really was a slap in the face in many ways to our country, and others, and have really made us rethink our impressions of the US, and our own values as far as what we want to support/don't want to support via our dollars etc...

I agree with this. And it’s not just Covid. There are other factors south of the border that make us very hesitant to travel there. I won’t get into those factors as I want to avoid my post being labeled political. But let’s just say several members of my family do not feel safe in the US.

As a family we have decided that when we do go (it will be fairly low risk from a covid perspective) that we will only travel to Disney. We will fly into Orlando, stay in the bubble and then fly home. But honestly we will only do that because we have tickets to Disney world already. if I could I would switch my tickets and go to Disney in France instead. But we can’t.

After that we probably won’t be back to the US for a very long time, hopefully some things will change. Until then we will enjoy our time visiting other countries. We have so much to explore, both at home in Canada, islands in the Caribbean, Europe etc.

 

[Silvermist999]

If I didn't already have $1800 in WDW gift cards, two 5-day WDW passes and flights booked to Orlando, I wouldn't even be looking at traveling there anytime soon.

I’m in a similar situation with lots of Disney gift cards (PC pts), four 7-day WDW tickets(air miles) plus Westjet flight credits from our cancelled March break trip. I need to call Westjet to see if they will budge on issuing a refund. Not even sure we will even be flying anywhere within the two year time frame.

 

[Pumpkin1172]

As I am reading the FAQ, it specifically says NO USA lol. It's only for the listed locations in the Caribbean and Mexico.

This actually makes me happy.
At some point, the boarder will open, people will be travelling again. This means that the insurance companies do not see " the covid-19 virus " as the threat they did 6 months ago. This gives me hope that maybe a winter getaway may be able to happen.

At some point, we will be able to travel again. Hopefully the quarantine upon return home will be somewhat lifted. I am NOT saying to not to take precautions, but a shorter quarantine time, negative test and then wearing a mask in public and your personal work space for a specified amount of time. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next 6-9 months.

 

[Sue M]

This actually makes me happy.
At some point, the boarder will open, people will be travelling again. This means that the insurance companies do not see " the covid-19 virus " as the threat they did 6 months ago. This gives me hope that maybe a winter getaway may be able to happen.

At some point, we will be able to travel again. Hopefully the quarantine upon return home will be somewhat lifted. I am NOT saying to not to take precautions, but a shorter quarantine time, negative test and then wearing a mask in public and your personal work space for a specified amount of time. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next 6-9 months.

Hopefully, my fingers are crossed. I have family and friends in Florida and California not to mention my Orlando trips. And my cross border shopping trips! I miss Trader Joes! Can’t wait for things to get back to normal.
Even for at home. I have about 5 friends in my bubble that as a group we’ve been getting together on our outside patios or back yards. We were just saying- what are we going to do when it gets cold? None of us have had inside get togethers.
And although we enjoyed our 2 mini getaways here. Both around 2 hrs from home, the hotels just aren’t the same, with restrictions and cutbacks on services.

 

[quandrea]

Hopefully, my fingers are crossed. I have family and friends in Florida and California not to mention my Orlando trips. And my cross border shopping trips! I miss Trader Joes! Can’t wait for things to get back to normal.
Even for at home. I have about 5 friends in my bubble that as a group we’ve been getting together on our outside patios or back yards. We were just saying- what are we going to do when it gets cold? None of us have had inside get togethers.
And although we enjoyed our 2 mini getaways here. Both around 2 hrs from home, the hotels just aren’t the same, with restrictions and cutbacks on services.

We are preparing ourselves for all socialising to end once it’s really cold. The summer has been fun with regular get togethers outside with distance. I’ve served preportioned, packaged snacks and drinks—we’ve made it work. We will be making lots of use of the phone and text messages. Not nearly the same.

And I’m with you on mini getaways. A poor substitute for my two week vacations. Although, I’m not up to big vacations right now; we lay low due to high risk factors. I did takeout last week and won’t do it again—too much stress for me, no fun. For now, I’ll await vaccine news and dream of vacations and freedom to come.

 

[igrsod]

I think it depends on more than an election. I’m glad to hear numbers are going down a bit or stabilizing but going down from thousands of cases is still a lot.
I‘m still hanging on to my late Nov/Dec trip but if we still can’t get medical travel or have to do a 14 day quarantine I’ll be canceling. Don’t want to quarantine over Christmas.

That's us too. We have a reservation for the last week of November into December... but we won't go without insurance or if we have to quarantine upon return. None of us can work from home, so it would mean too long without a paycheque. We are DVC members, so our points need to be used by the end of November. Hoping to go, but not holding out much hope at this point.

 

[zebsterama]

We were supposed to be at Disney, and California Grill (my favorite restaurant on the planet) for my 50th B-Day in early October. Had a reservation (point rental) laid out for the Riviera ... but that's obviously not happening.

Hopefully things change / improve in the US soon. I think we could all use some good news.

 

[Sue M]

We are preparing ourselves for all socialising to end once it’s really cold. The summer has been fun with regular get togethers outside with distance. I’ve served preportioned, packaged snacks and drinks—we’ve made it work. We will be making lots of use of the phone and text messages. Not nearly the same.

And I’m with you on mini getaways. A poor substitute for my two week vacations. Although, I’m not up to big vacations right now; we lay low due to high risk factors. I did takeout last week and won’t do it again—too much stress for me, no fun. For now, I’ll await vaccine news and dream of vacations and freedom to come.

We jokingly said we should all buy outdoor heaters! Maybe that will happen.

 

[quandrea]

We jokingly said we should all buy outdoor heaters! Maybe that will happen.

We are considering a fire pit.

 

[pigletto]

We jokingly said we should all buy outdoor heaters! Maybe that will happen.

Interestingly we were at a small family thing this weekend on my brothers back deck and someone said that they heard the next “hard to get” item was outdoor heaters. I think everyone is thinking about how to squeeze in some more time before it gets too cold.

 

[momof2gr8kids]

Interestingly we were at a small family thing this weekend on my brothers back deck and someone said that they heard the next “hard to get” item was outdoor heaters. I think everyone is thinking about how to squeeze in some more time before it gets too cold.

Yes, and restaurants trying to keep their patios open as long as possible are buying them up around here.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/a...anadas-covid-19-study-toronto-pearson-airport
Air Canada at YYZ (Pearson Airport) testing out a study.

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/airline/covid-19-tests-will-be-available-westjet-guests-yvr-fall
Westjet at YVR (Vancouver) will start testing passengers on International flights this fall.

Looks like there will be some serious pushback against the ongoing 14-day quarantine in order to entice people to fly.

 

[Jrb1979]

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/a...anadas-covid-19-study-toronto-pearson-airport
Air Canada at YYZ (Pearson Airport) testing out a study.

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/airline/covid-19-tests-will-be-available-westjet-guests-yvr-fall
Westjet at YVR (Vancouver) will start testing passengers on International flights this fall.

Looks like there will be some serious pushback against the ongoing 14-day quarantine in order to entice people to fly.

I would be ok if they drop the 14-day quarantine depending on the country you fly from. The US would still be a big no for the foreseeable future.

 

[azrivest]

Why don't they ask people to quarantine until they get a negative result instead? If I'm negative for COVID-19, why would I need to stay home any longer?

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

Why don't they ask people to quarantine until they get a negative result instead? If I'm negative for COVID-19, why would I need to stay home any longer?

Because they cannot pinpoint which date you will be showing infection. You may test on day 2 but not show infection until day 10.

 

[Susan2771]

Why don't they ask people to quarantine until they get a negative result instead? If I'm negative for COVID-19, why would I need to stay home any longer?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/lifestyle...-pearson-in-toronto/ar-BB18Gdfu?ocid=msedgntp

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

@Susan2771 That is what I posted above. There is a video showing the process as well. It's part of a study the airport is participating in.

 

[isabellea]

Why don't they ask people to quarantine until they get a negative result instead? If I'm negative for COVID-19, why would I need to stay home any longer?

If you got infected the day before or the day of your arrival back home, that's too early to be detected by the test. It might take up to 14 days for the test to be positive. A lot of damage can be done during that time. I personally would prefer they keep the 14 day quarantine for travelers, especially if the purpose of the trip was leisure.