Whats With Designer Clothes?

MuNkY said:
Those kids can't afford to go to school and get an education. That's the reason they arn't there in the first place. And a lot of those familes arn't like the ones here, where one family member with a good job can support the rest of them. NONE of those family members get paid a whole lot, so the whole family has to work to put bread and milk on the table.

I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying those kids don't have much of a choice. Its, "work hard all day and barley get by, or starve to death".

I agree 100%. I actualy had a argument with one of my teachers because he went on and on about walmart and how he wont shop there for reasons.
 
MuNkY said:
Those kids can't afford to go to school and get an education. That's the reason they arn't there in the first place. And a lot of those familes arn't like the ones here, where one family member with a good job can support the rest of them. NONE of those family members get paid a whole lot, so the whole family has to work to put bread and milk on the table.

I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying those kids don't have much of a choice. Its, "work hard all day and barley get by, or starve to death".
I've argued this before, and I took this view. I am no way say that it is right, but they HAVE to work. School costs money, and the money they do make is for food for their family.

When the united states went through the industrial revolution (early-mid 1800s) the Lowell and Slater mills are what started it. Lowell Textials and Slater Mills. Lowell imployed teenage girls who lived in a boarding house. Slater imployed children. 5-9 year olds.

Child labor has been going on for much longer than most realize. Those children worked because they had to. There was no other choice for most of them, as well as there is no other choice for them today.
 
I wear clothes that I like that fit...if it happens to be designer, I'm not just gonna not wear them...if I like em, I like em...I happen to like designer clothes... :confused3 Sometimes I shop at Marshalls, and sometimes I shop at Cache...
 
I don't skate. I wear skater shoes because they're comfortable. What is the big deal, people? Why can't people just wear what they want and not be critisized for it?

I wear what I can afford and what I like, which is usually just tshirts and jeans. I'm just happy that I have clothes.
 

I wear things that I think are comfortable, and that I like.
Like UGGs, they may be like 200 dollars, but they are sooo cozy and warm.

I have a few shirts that have labels on them, like, I have one Lucky Brand shirt, and a few roxy things. Other than that, I wear jeans I can find for 20 or 30 dollars.

I have always liked being comfortable, and I am not going to let anyone change my mind about that
 
brand names?
i love them. and i don't know why.
i don't wear them though. i've got three shirts from AE, a sweater from AE and a necklace from AE. AE is the Abercrombie & Fitch over here in Canada, just for the fact that A&F doesn't exist in the city i live in. my clothes come from everywhere. i have several pairs of jeans that i hate, so i pick one pair that i wear like everyday.
as for shoes. i just buy whatevers cheap. i have a pair of adidas that were fifty bucks. i never buy shoes that are more thant that.
 
ElementGirl said:
I wear Element,Billabong,Roxy and clothes from zumiez.I wear circas,dc's and vans.Skater clothes get pretty expensive.LIke my to sweatshirts combined are like $100 or more.I wear it bc i like the clothes not just bc they are "cool".
Some Hot Topic hoodies are $30.
 
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2HOT2touch said:
Ok maybe they aren't "slaves" but would you rather go to school and get an education or sit in a factory all day with horrible conditions and get paid like 25 cents an hour. either way if they are slaves or just not getting paid alot, its wrong to have children working. I know they are doing it so their family can have money, but thats only cuz their government makes it that way, and i think it should be illegal. Believe me i can go on and on and on about this, ive had this conversation before. and to my knowledge, no the clothes at AE,Hollister, and A&F are not made by children.
You should do your homework then.

Five years ago, Sweatshop Watch, Global Exchange, Asian Law Caucus, Unite, and Saipan garment workers filed three separate lawsuits against dozens of big-name retailers and Saipan garment factories alleging violations of U.S. labor laws and international human rights standards.

Saipan is the largest of a chain of fourteen islands in the Pacific Ocean known as the U.S. Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands. It is home to a $1 billion garment industry, with about 30 garment factories employing more than 10,000 workers, almost all young women from China, the Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Bangladesh and other Asian countries. Plaintiffs in the lawsuit alleged that these workers live and toil in deplorable conditions, working up to 12 hours a day, seven days a week, and earning $3.05 an hour or less, often without overtime pay. With promises of high pay and quality work in the U.S., workers agreed to repay recruitment fees of thousands of dollars. Many workers also claimed that they signed "shadow contracts" waiving basic human rights, including the freedom to join unions, attend religious services, quit or marry. These circumstances, plaintiffs contended, trap Saipan garment workers in a state of indentured servitude. The retailers were also charged with misleading advertising by, among other things, using the "Made in the U.S.A" label and promoting their goods as sweatshop-free.

By the Fall of 2002, 26 retailers and 23 Saipan garment factories settled the lawsuit, leaving Levi's as the only hold-out. A federal judge approved the settlement in April 2003. The settling retailers include:
Abercrombie & Fitch
, Brooks Brothers, Brylane L.P., Calvin Klein Inc., Cutter & Buck Inc., Donna Karan International, Dress Barn, Gap Inc. (Banana Republic, Old Navy), Gymboree Corp., J.C. Penney Company Inc., J. Crew Group Inc, Jones Apparel Group, Lane Bryant Inc., The Limited Inc., Liz Claiborne Inc., May Department Stores Company, Nordstrom Inc., Oshkosh B'Gosh Inc., Phillips-Van Heusen, Polo Ralph Lauren, Sears Roebuck and Company, Talbots Inc., Target Corp. (Target, Mervyn's, Marshall Fields, Dayton-Hudson), Tommy Hilfiger USA Inc., Warnaco Inc. and Woolrich, Inc.
Credit to http://www.business-humanrights.org...mpanies/A/AbercrombieFitch?&sort_on=effective

I guess it's been settled, but still.
 
goofyandplutoluver said:
Some Hot Topic hoodies are $30.

If my dad caught me in that store..

Well let's say I wouldn't be posting anything on the dis for a while.
 
nightmareb4xmas said:
personally, i think that skater shoes should be worn only by people WHO ACTUALLY SKATE. theyre built how they are for a reason. And frankly, i will never be caught dead in an AE, Aero, Hollister, Abercrombie and whatever store. Im not trying to bash anyone who likes these stores, but thats not my style, of dressing preppy. I wear what i want, and i could give a rat's butt what anyone else has to say about it.
speak the truth :rotfl: sorry I just had to say that..
well I wear what I like and what I won't so.. I don't care what people say about my clothes ::yes::
 
Arielfn93 said:
If my dad caught me in that store..

Well let's say I wouldn't be posting anything on the dis for a while.
you can buy them from the compnay. Like tripp pants? you can just go to trippnyc.com. hot topic carries alot of different brands. just find out what you want, who makes it, then buy it through them. no middle man.
 
ok, but technically there was only like one thing mentioned in there that i mentioned that didnt have children working. and i agree that they are doing this for their family, but i DISAGREE that they HAVE to do it. as i think i said before, the government is letting this happen, if the government made a law then it wouldnt happen, and education is free, well if it isnt it should be, and i know they are working on that too. and not all of the families in the US can support themselves with only one income coming in, actually alot of them can't, yet we have a law that says children aren't allowed to work untill they are 14 or 15 and only under certain conditions and for only a certain amount of time.
 
2HOT2touch said:
ok, but technically there was only like one thing mentioned in there that i mentioned that didnt have children working. and i agree that they are doing this for their family, but i DISAGREE that they HAVE to do it. as i think i said before, the government is letting this happen, if the government made a law then it wouldnt happen, and education is free, well if it isnt it should be, and i know they are working on that too. and not all of the families in the US can support themselves with only one income coming in, actually alot of them can't, yet we have a law that says children aren't allowed to work untill they are 14 or 15 and only under certain conditions and for only a certain amount of time.
But, yeah, they sort of HAVE to. Like I said, it's work or die, and I'm sure 99.999% of them want to live so. :confused3

Also right now, the child labor force is a major part of these Government's economies. If they made a law banning it, it will throw their economies down the drain, and if enough 3rd world countries did it, it might mess up the world economy too. And yes, education should be free, but that's just not going to happen. I hate to say it, but a school is a buisness, just like everything else.

And I never said that all families in the US can support themselves on one income. :confused3

And remember that the United States went through the exact same thing these countries did.
 
2HOT2touch said:
ok, but technically there was only like one thing mentioned in there that i mentioned that didnt have children working. and i agree that they are doing this for their family, but i DISAGREE that they HAVE to do it. as i think i said before, the government is letting this happen, if the government made a law then it wouldnt happen, and education is free, well if it isnt it should be, and i know they are working on that too. and not all of the families in the US can support themselves with only one income coming in, actually alot of them can't, yet we have a law that says children aren't allowed to work untill they are 14 or 15 and only under certain conditions and for only a certain amount of time.
sadly most countries aren't as advanced as the United States. :confused3 But I do understand what you're saying. But I don't see anything like it happening any time soon.
 
ok, but i dont know if you know it. but the UN is trying to help these countries. and alot of the countries actually are catching up to the US and becoming more advanced. and pretty soon we aren't going to be the dominant power anymore. i know that the governments like use the companies as well but there are ways that you can get the countries out of debt and have a stable government like we do. So i think that its wrong that the governments let the children work. im not saying its going to stop anytime soon. but it will eventually stop. and in the mean time, i still dont support those countries that have children making their clothes. like how would you feel if i told you that a 5 year old child made the shirt your wearing for less than a dollar an hour? like i would understand better if like the children werent the only income in the family but the fact that in most families that the children are the only ones working is really wrong.
 
2HOT2touch said:
ok, but i dont know if you know it. but the UN is trying to help these countries. and alot of the countries actually are catching up to the US and becoming more advanced. and pretty soon we aren't going to be the dominant power anymore. i know that the governments like use the companies as well but there are ways that you can get the countries out of debt and have a stable government like we do. So i think that its wrong that the governments let the children work. im not saying its going to stop anytime soon. but it will eventually stop. and in the mean time, i still dont support those countries that have children making their clothes. like how would you feel if i told you that a 5 year old child made the shirt your wearing for less than a dollar an hour? like i would understand better if like the children werent the only income in the family but the fact that in most families that the children are the only ones working is really wrong.
The US will not be the dominant power for very long at all. I mean, we one of, if not the only major countries NOT on the metric system. Poverty is here too.

The United Nations are trying to help. I know that.

It is wrong that children are working and taking care of elderly parents.
It is wrong that I don't know how to help.
It is wrong that we give people like that reasons to keep doing what they are doing by buying the products.

The truth is, there is no right to it.

Children are working and being paid horrible wages.
They are working for money to buy food, clothing, and keep a roof over their head in most cases.

There is no common ground here, except that it is wrong.
 
Sparx said:
The US will not be the dominant power for very long at all. I mean, we one of, if not the only major countries NOT on the metric system. Poverty is here too.

The United Nations are trying to help. I know that.

It is wrong that children are working and taking care of elderly parents.
It is wrong that I don't know how to help.
It is wrong that we give people like that reasons to keep doing what they are doing by buying the products.

The truth is, there is no right to it.

Children are working and being paid horrible wages.
They are working for money to buy food, clothing, and keep a roof over their head in most cases.

There is no common ground here, except that it is wrong.

exactly. and thats why i am no longer going to buy things from those places that were posted before.
 
Some people at my school don't give designer names a second glance JUST because they are designer. Those are the people I hate, I say if it's cute and you can afford it buy it, but the people that have like a cheaper hoodies and mines from AE but they look almost the same, and they're like what a ugly hoodie. If they like it no matter if tis a brand, buy it.... Yes I do wear Abercrombie, it's my fave store, most my clothes are from there or Hollister, and I like them because they fuit me well, and they have the look I am looking for....

Brand Bashers!!!

Just kidding lol still luv ya'll
 
2HOT2touch said:
ok, but i dont know if you know it. but the UN is trying to help these countries. and alot of the countries actually are catching up to the US and becoming more advanced. and pretty soon we aren't going to be the dominant power anymore. i know that the governments like use the companies as well but there are ways that you can get the countries out of debt and have a stable government like we do. So i think that its wrong that the governments let the children work. im not saying its going to stop anytime soon. but it will eventually stop. and in the mean time, i still dont support those countries that have children making their clothes. like how would you feel if i told you that a 5 year old child made the shirt your wearing for less than a dollar an hour? like i would understand better if like the children werent the only income in the family but the fact that in most families that the children are the only ones working is really wrong.
Yes, the UN is trying to help these countries, but it's not like it's going to happen overnight.

Yes, a lot of these coutries are catching up, but the United States is going to be the dominate power on the planet for a long, long time. Sadly thats usually judged by the militaries, and we spend 10 billion more than our closest competator.

Also if your going to stop buying clothes from all those companies, you might as well stop buying clothes. :confused3
 













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