Whats with all the Smoking?

[prez65]

One small comment I have to make regarding something said on here about smokers setting a bad example: I do not drink. My ex is an alcoholic and used to beat me up more often than not. So my 2 older kids are that much more likely to be alcoholics because their dad and his mother are. I think people drinking at the pool set a bad example for my kids. Why can't they have fun at a pool without a drink??? I am not asking WDW to ban drinking at the pools completely. Don't bring setting an example into the equation. My kids ask me why I smoke. I told them I was stupid to start and it was the biggest mistake of my life. They see me struggle to stop. Smoking is not a parenting issue, unless you are giving your 5 yr old a cigarette. That comment really bothered me. I could make a list of 100 things that other people do that sets a bad example for children.

....I agree with you 100% 2princes2princesses

 

[bpmorley]

I quit smoking years ago. For those of you who never smoked, believe me, not smoking sometimes is not an option. It is a physical addiction as well as a bad choice. Looking back at when I smoked, it would be physically impossible to not smoke somewhere. I don't know if I can say this here, but I got a medicine from my doctor called Zyban. It was a miracle. It was not until then that I realized just how much of the cravings were physical and it wasn't just weakness of my will (like blowing a diet). I just had to work then on the habit. I am thankful every day that I was able to quit.

It's been 4.5 years since I quit. Cold Turkey. It may have been the only New Years promise I ever stuck with. I did have some help though. I had the worst flu ever. Bedridden for 18 days with 100+ fever. By the time I came around I had beaten those hardest first weeks. And anyone that has tried to quit knows that those are the hardest. By as a former smoker rigsby I know what the DW means when she says she has to have a smoke.

 

[Fitswimmer]

I quit cold turkey too, the day after Labor Day 1998!! It wasn't easy, I still have days when I crave them, and of course I gained weight.

Smoking comes under the same heading as a lot of other issues on this board. BE CONSIDERATE OF OTHERS!! It amazes me just how many people act as if they are the only people on the planet. You will offer your children the best lesson in the world if you can teach them that they are not alone and that the world doesn't revolve around them. Healthy self-esteem does NOT mean that the rest of the world comes second to what you want.

 

[dianeschlicht]

I quit cold turkey too, the day after Labor Day 1998!! It wasn't easy, I still have days when I crave them, and of course I gained weight.

Smoking comes under the same heading as a lot of other issues on this board. BE CONSIDERATE OF OTHERS!! It amazes me just how many people act as if they are the only people on the planet. You will offer your children the best lesson in the world if you can teach them that they are not alone and that the world doesn't revolve around them. Healthy self-esteem does NOT mean that the rest of the world comes second to what you want.

VERY true! It goes along with teaching your children to say "thank you", "please", and "excuse me". We hear those things all too seldom anymore from both adults and children. Off topic, but we have season baseball tickets and our seats happen to be on the aisle. There are dozens of times we have to get up during a game to let folks out of a row, and I'm lucky to hear those three phrases once the entire evening. We are becoming a society of "me ony", and I hope someone wakes up soon about that.

 

[Fitswimmer]

There are dozens of times we have to get up during a game to let folks out of a row, and I'm lucky to hear those three phrases once the entire evening.

This brought back memories. We had season tickets to the NJ Devils a few years back when my niece was younger, also on the aisle. After the same 3 guys went out and back for beer and beer removal about 8 times, my little niece pipes up and says-"didn't your Mommy teach you 'cuse me???"

 

[bpmorley]

that's a fact. I tend to get annoyed at people that don't have any common courtesy. When you get someone that just pushed through you I usually come back in my very loud voice "I'm sorry I didn't realize that you were more important than me your highness!!!" This usually gets everyone else around snickering at them.

 

[Fitswimmer]

A friend of mine did this at Disney once. Someone cut in the line at Splash and he says LOUDLY-"Hey, everybody, he must be a Disney relative! Look how he gets to go ahead of all the rest of us! He must be somebody REALLY important!" Of course, I was waiting for a hole to open up and swallow me, but everyone else in line-except the cutter-got a real kick out of it. The sad thing is that there just aren't enough CM's to enforce all the rude behavior that goes on every day.

 

[bpmorley]

You've got a point swimmer. But then again, what's the average age of a CM that works the rides. Maybe 21. They're all kids. What would you expect one to say to an adult? I say something cause I'm not afraid to go face to face with anyone, but these kids don't want to get fired.

 

[Fitswimmer]

I can certainly understand that. I'm about 5'4" and there is no way I would take on a 6' line cutter. I can also understand the CM's being concerned about losing a job if it came down to a "he said, she said" with a guest.
I guess I'm showing my age, because I remember being at MK as a kid and watching a CM toss a couple of teenagers off the Space Mtn line because they had cut in. That same trip, a CM made a man put his shirt back on while sitting waiting for the parade. If you look at the things going on now, (see the "have you ever had a shock" thread) it seems like the CM's don't do much enforcing anymore. Whether that's because they are afraid to or there just aren't enough of them, I don't know.

 

[2giddy4wdw]

The unfortunate part with "some" of these CM is that they really don't care. They are there just to collect a pay check. They just go along and do just what they have to, to get through their shift. I have seen this many times with some of them. Then you have the others that will go above and beyond what they have to do. I'm sure some of the CM feel that they don't get paid enough to deal with something outside of their job description.

But back to the topic...Like someone said earlier just be considerate of those around you. And if someone opens/holds a door for you smile and say "Thank you". (That's one of my biggest pet peeves) It will make you and the other person feel so much better.

And to all of you who have quit smoking...Congratulations!!! It was 4 years for me on Feb 14. I quit "cold turkey" after I had my DH pick a day in Feb. It was that day, and I didn't disappoint myself by not going through with it. It's very hard sometimes, and I still get the cravings. DH still smokes as do the guys I work with. But you have to want to quit. It's not something that most people wake up and say "oh I think I will quit smoking today", it just doesn't work that way. I had 2 weeks to set myself up for it. Since then I have lit one, and it was 2 months after I quit. It was nasty!!!!

And for those of you thinking about quitting... here is some pixie dust for you!!!

 

[Pamjr]

We stayed in a loft at SS when we were there in January and one bathroom and one bedroom reeked of cigarette smoke. We had maintenance come in and check it out and they said even though it's a no smoking unit, the previous people must have smoked anyway. At first we thought the ventilation was shared with the cleaning staff area but not so. People should not smoke where it isn't approved.

 

[bpmorley]

People should not smoke where it isn't approved.

That's kind of where this thread(and I there was another)started. My wife smokes and she requested a smoking room, but they didn't have any available. The CM at the checkin told her that she can smoke on the deck. There are people that don't agree with that, but if Disney says it's ok then I guess it is. I will admit that she will go out of her way to be considerate of non-smokers. She only goes to designated smoking areas in the parks. She smokes but she does her part not to bother anyone.

 

[Pamjr]

Hi BP

Consideration is all I ask. Sounds like your smoker takes others into account. I don't mind smoking on the balcony either. If the wind blows it my way, I go inside for a few minutes. Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I wish everyone was like your wife.

 

[2Princes2Princesses]

Pam-

We try to be considerate as well. Which is all we ask of others, too.

If we were smoking on a balcony (even in a "smoking" room) and it bothered you, we would actually prefer you to yell down, "excuse me, I am not a smoker and that is REALLY blowing up here.....so do you mind, I want to sit on the balcony" I would put it out in a heartbeat. I really would feel terrible if someone went inside and didn't enjoy the great balconies even for a little bit because of me.

Although I do realize that most people probably would not want to chance asking someone to put it out, since it sometimes turns out you would get a nasty reply.

Maybe I'll get a pic up. That way if you see me and it is bothering you, you know you can just speak up and I will be happy to accommodate ya! Make a new "Considerate DVC smokers" thread. hehehe

 

[bpmorley]

Pam, I'm not sure if it's earlier in this thread or a different one. There was one person saying that if he saw someone smoking nearby on a balcony out would come the water pistol.