What will WDW "cut" next?

[Phatoomch]

The Fantasyland expansion...including the Be Our Guest restaurant, The Little Mermaid ride, Gaston's Tavern, Beast Castle, Prince Eric's castle, Seven Dwarves Mine Train, Dueling Dumbo's, Casey Jr. Splash & Soak, Princess Fairytale Hall.

The new HM queue and ending of the ride.

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Oh I'm sorry...I thought you asked about all the wonderful things they ADDED or are ADDING. Well we lost purty napkins and white bread buns, so I'd say we're all still well ahead of the game.

I can tell you're a half glass full kinda person - love your post

 

[ppony]

TWell we lost purty napkins and white bread buns, so I'd say we're all still well ahead of the game.

I want my white buns!!!!! That was just to the quick for me. No, but seriously, I WOULD like my soft white buns. I also believe we're still ahead. I just have a hard time paying close to $70 at my local theme park for a day when I could pay $30 more and enjoy it 100 times more.

 

[arthropodtodd]

So i read the first few pages of this thread and then gave up for a variety of reasons, all of which lead me to my time on my soap box. Feel free to skip and ignore.

"Discuss touring plans and strategies for the Disney World theme parks on this board." This is what threads are supposed to be about. How does "what will Disney cut next" help anyone plan for their trip? So first thought; this thread does not belong and should be removed and sent to ihandoveralotofmoneytodisneyandiwillcomplainaboutitbecausetheydonotmeetmyexpectations100%.com. (Wouldn't that be a fun site?) Save your gripe sessions for elsewhere.

Second, in response to this thread I am left wondering why we seem to think Disney cares about what we want. They are like any other business, they want to turn a profit. They are selling a very well researched and marketed product, an experience. To see Disney as anything but a global business super power is foolish and a bit narcissistic on our part. Now they do their business probably better than anyone. They know what we the consumer wants. Their product is an experience, they do not cut the product, they evolve it. Disney is different every time we visit. Will they eliminate anything wasteful? They better otherwise they shouldn't be in business as long as it does not hurt the experience for their target market. We only have to look at Walt's history as the boss to see how smart this company really is. He was unhappy with the experience he was selling in California, so he secretly bought land and started from scratch to create a better experience.

 

[rock_doctor]

I wish it where that way... But the reality is that for everyone person who has recurring, legitimate complaints about declining quality and no dedication to a coherent...

Put a frog into boiling water and he will jump out, put a frog in cold water and heat is slowly he will stay put and cook.

 

[KellyNY]

They never were in AK, we're they? That and lids. It's a environmental issue.

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They do have them at AK but paper ones, I actually liked them and think they can do the same in other parks.

 

[KellyNY]

The Fantasyland expansion...including the Be Our Guest restaurant, The Little Mermaid ride, Gaston's Tavern, Beast Castle, Prince Eric's castle, Seven Dwarves Mine Train, Dueling Dumbo's, Casey Jr. Splash & Soak, Princess Fairytale Hall.

The new HM queue and ending of the ride.

Mickey M&G at Town Hall.

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Oh I'm sorry...I thought you asked about all the wonderful things they ADDED or are ADDING. Well we lost purty napkins and white bread buns, so I'd say we're all still well ahead of the game.

Can I trade Fantasy Land expansion for some white bread buns?

 

[Jennasis]

Can I trade Fantasy Land expansion for some white bread buns?

I tend to not eat burgers and dogs on vacation at WDW anyway. Too many other wonderful or unique quick-serve offerings. Also, we usually have wheat buns at home.

 

[KellyNY]

I tend to not eat burgers and dogs on vacation at WDW anyway. Too many other wonderful or unique quick-serve offerings. Also, we usually have wheat buns at home.

I am just the opposite, the only place I eat burgers is at Disney, I very rarely have them at home. So if I have junk food, can I have it all the way?

 

[Planogirl]

I see your point, and I understand what you mean, but that is where the subjectivity of this thread and this mindset as a whole comes into play. I look at what has been added since 1998 and see it as far outstripping what has been removed. For example, EMH and the dining plan were added after 1998! The fact that they have continued to evolve does not belie or negate the fact that they were additions post-1998.

Expedition Everest, Toy Story Midway Mania, Osborne Family Lights, Soarin', Test Track, Mission: Space, the Fantasy Land Expansion, multiple resorts, Magical Express, etc. have all happened since 1998, as well as many other additions, so it hasn't been 14 years of retrograde devolution, in my opinion.

The additional challenge is that as things mature, they will always evolve more slowly, and so arguments that only look at the "debit side" instead of both sides, in my opinion, do an injustice to the conversation. For example, I understand that WDW added a park about every 10 years, but that is an unsustainable model, so they have been adding parks around the world and focusing on other parks since that time. They do not want a fifth park in Orlando right now because there is no business purpose in adding one. Does that mean they are "cutting" or simply using good business sense? What about after five gates; would we need a 6th?

Can you imagine ticket prices if they invested $25,000,000,000+ in a new park?

I'm not one of those screaming that WDW is going down the tubes like a few others. I think that the parks are a bit static and overpriced (and Epcot is ruined IMO) but as you mentioned that is just my opinion. We all have different priorities and while WDW might meet someone's needs 100%, they might also not do so for others. That is why these discussions are interesting but really don't change anything.

I don't particularly want a fifth park - I just want the parks already in existence to be what I think they can be. But again that is just my opinion.

 

[famsen]

This Xpass thing really has me upset. I'm just reading about the rumors now. Just available to Deluxe Resort Guests?
This seems so wrong on so many levels, I can't even express my thoughts in coherent sentences right now.

 

[Yubbie]

Dole Whips and Mickey Ice Cream Bars are probably next on the list of things to go. After that will be Mickey ears followed by all the Disney princesses, all the fireworks shows, and half of Magic Kingdom. It's really sad to see all this go, but it's all for the sake of preserving magic.

The good news is that lines will be shorter after these cuts.

 

[rock_doctor]

This Xpass thing really has me upset. I'm just reading about the rumors now. Just available to Deluxe Resort Guests?
This seems so wrong on so many levels, I can't even express my thoughts in coherent sentences right now.

I suspect it will be a pay for thing. Universal does it this way, so Disney will follow... I don't do the fast pass thing so i don't care but when i heard Universal did it i thought it was scummy. If Disney does it, i will have a similar opinion.

 

[MKAnthony]

I suspect it will be a pay for thing. Universal does it this way, so Disney will follow... I don't do the fast pass thing so i don't care but when i heard Universal did it i thought it was scummy. If Disney does it, i will have a similar opinion.

Like you said rumors. Just wait and see. Dont get worked up about it now it is all still just in the testing stages. Ps. That's not going to be the name of it either

 

[pampam]

I think as a business, WDW will continue to make cuts and adjustments that benefit it and its stockholders. Most visitors will not notice the small ones such as when they removed "4 for a dollar" pre show at Beauty and the Beast. From a business standpoint, it was a good move. First time visitors don't miss it, and it didn't take away from the actual show that people were lined up to see. However, those of us who go quite a bit miss these types of details. I understand why things change or are deleted, but I do miss them.

 

[WaDiWo]

This is a fascinating thread.
Yes, of course we can go back and count what Disney added and what Disney took a way, and yes, from a mathematical and business standpoint in would make perfect sense.

I just think many of us "uberfans" put Disney at a higher standard, and we wish that Disney would do things just because, and not for profit. Yes, perhaps each thing that was taken away was a little thing by itself, but for me it was the totality of the little things that was Magic...

Say what you will about the napkins, mickey butter, the mist in EE, the Beauty and the Beast preshow, (and for that matter the doves at the end, are they still there)...

but devil is in the details. it is precisely DETAILS and "little things" that set Disney apart from any other company, and every other theme park, and make you go home and just feel "wow, that was a special place."

naive? perhaps, and sure i know businesses need to thrive, I just agree with a previous poster and I just miss certain things.

 

[Robo]

the Beauty and the Beast preshow, (and for that matter the doves at the end, are they still there)...

Gone.

All of the "finale bird releases" were ended at the parks years ago.

 

[LaurenT]

Hmmmm. I don't know about the rest of the shows, but FoW definitely still had white doves at the end of the show last time I was there (within the past year).

 

[LaurenT]

If the water goes, so do I . That would be the last straw!

Yeah.... Pretty sure they're cutting the straws.

 

[vicki_c]

Hmmmm. I don't know about the rest of the shows, but FoW definitely still had white doves at the end of the show last time I was there (within the past year).

But that's a bird show!

 

[LaurenT]

I just have to mention that I spent yesterday at Six Flags Great Adventure with DD9 and my sister. The park was so run down, bathrooms dirty, food horrible and much more expensive than Disney ($3.50 for a bottle of water). 95% of the rides worth doing had a minimum height of 54", so DD couldn't do them. The only ride with any themeing worth mentioning was Houdini.
At the end of the day, I had spent as much as I would have at Disney and there was no magic in my day.
They don't let you ride most thongs with any sort of bag (even a small crossbody bag), this is so they can suck $1 out of you for a one time use locker. Fast Pass (flash pass there) will cost at least an extra $120 for a family. The other option is to wait at least an hour for any minimally popular ride.
I don't care if WDW stopped stamping their napkins, or if they cut an hour from EMH (btw, in MK, the regular hours are extended an hour, so it's still open just as long), they are still the best game in town by far!