What used to be on SSR's present site?

Always wanted to try out the Disney Institute (and not Doctor P's version) - the list of courses always seemed to interesting.

As for DTD, I remember eating at the "Fireworks Factory", right on the edge of DTD and the new PI. Not sure what's there now....
 
when back when it was the Lake Buena visata market place, I remember as a teenager buying a Nancy Drew book in a bookstore they had there. chef mickeys use to be there also before moving to the contemporary.
 
scottb8888 said:
We stayed in the "Vacation Villas" and the "Club Lake Villas" many times and really enjoyed them. We heard that they were going to be removed and SSR was in the plans. We waited to purchase for that reason, we love the location.

Back by the Fairway Villas were a half a dozen homes, I think they called them Vacation Homes. Does anyone know what happed to them?

Those were (are) called Grand Vista Suites, later renamed Grand Vista Homes. There are four of these- 2 and 3 BR homes. They were originally designed as model homes for a development project abandoned in the mid 70's. These are nestled among the soon-to-be-demolished Fairway Villas. They offered bed turn down service, daily newspaper delivery and the refrigerators were stocked with staples at arrival and the furniture was first-class and very upscale for that time. A golf-cart and bicycles were included in the rental rate. These accommodations listed room capacity of 6 guests in a 2BR and 8 in a 3BR. The 2BR buildings had either 3 King Beds, 2 Queens and 2 twins or 1 King and 2 Queens. The 3BR's had 1 King Bed, 2 Queens and 2 twins. (In 1987 these rented for $575 for the 2BR and $625 for the 3BR). They are still standing and may be seen from the walkway along the canal (or from the OKW/SSR/DD boat).

Check-in and out for the Fairway Villas, Grand Vista Suites, Vacation Villas and Treehouse Villas was at the Reception Center on Hotel Plaza Boulevard (the building is now occupied by the AAU). Check in for the Club Lake Villas was at the WDW Conference Center (the brown building next to the current construction entrance).

These accommodations were all part of the Walt Disney World Village Resort Villas.
 
Going back to the orginal inquiry:

Before being built the area was named for development as the Lake Buena Vista Village. It was supposed to have, besides rental units, single family homes and townhomes that people would buy. When it opened in 1974 as the Walt Disney World Village Resort Villas, there were no saleable single family homes or villas. The reason: the legal beagles had informed management that any permanent residents would have to be allowed to vote on the government officials for the government entities that Disney set up for Disney World. Down went the sale of homes idea (ressurrected again more than 20 years later when they constructed the town of Celebration). In 1985, it became just the Walt Disney World Village Resort, in 1989 the Disney Village Resort, and in 1996 the Disney Institute which died after 9/11. The units were orginally called Villas, then they built Treehouse Villas, the Villas became the Vacation Villas and the Fairway Villas in the 1980's (and those two became the Townhomes under Disney institute) and they added the names Club Lake Villas, a.k.a. Club Suites, and Grand Vista Suites (which group became the Bungalows under Disney Institute).

The shopping area started as the Lake Buena Vista Shopping Village (1975), then became the Walt Disney World Village (1977), then the Disney Village Marketplace (1980), and the Downtown Disney name was added in 1997.

SSR was actually an afterthought as a result of 9/11. Before then, they were planning to build the Eagle Pines Resort and had announced it. Before 9/11 Disney Institute was only a part success; after 9/11 they decided the best idea was to get rid of it and go with a DVC resort.
 

WowDrusba!! Thanks for the history! Though I started going to WDW in l978, my memory isn't the best...and I had forgotten most of this stuff!

In 1978 I was headed with my bf for my FIRST EVER WDW experience. We were going with another couple and had ressies at Treehouse Villas. The other couple cancelled at the last mo...and bf told Disney Res. In lieu of the 2 bedroom Treehouse we were booked into a Poly Lagoon View room. The view of the castle was so magical that bf asked me to marry him, and the rest, as they say, is history! So I have a kinda-personal link to the Treehouses.

I remember so fondly the Empress Lilly...such a beautiful 'boat'. I remember the 3 restaurants...we ate in the 'jacket required' one and it was probalby the best food at Disney at the time (1979). My fav thing at the WDW Village was the little staging area where Disney had..probably the first ever type of Xmas show...and it was free! We saw it right after THanksgiving, in the early 80's I think...and it was REALLY good.

I liked the store that sold topiaries and bought several...it was located next to where they did on site glass blowing I think.

Ah memories!
colorado belle
 
oops...forgot to mention Disney Institute. I only toured it and bought some things in the boutique there, but I LOVED the idea of it!!!! It was kinda expensive at the time to both stay and participate...wish I had known that DVC members has such a great offer at $45 a day! Kinda sorry it didn't make it; perhaps people were torn between spending time there as opposed to the parks...for those people who only get a rare Disney vacation, it must have been a hard choice.

BTW, Doctor P...I'm still :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: and may I add LMAO!

Colorado Belle
 
CarolA said:
Did any of you ever go to the Disney Institute? I went for a long weekend. My friend and I both LOVED it. We got to canoe on some of the protected wetlands, make a TV show, learn some cooking skills, learn some "Disney tricks" etc. I thought it was one of ME's GREAT ideas, but it just didn't seem people wanted to pay for it. (I miss it!)

My partner and I discovered DI by accident one time when we changed from the AS Music because of some problems there. DI had the only rooms we could get, and we were given a room in one of the Bungalows that sat at the place adjacent to what is called "The Springs" and "The Paddock" now. We fell in love with the place, and stayed there several more times between 1998 and when the finally closed DI to make room for SSR.

The DI is the main reason I agreed to buy in at SSR in addition to OKW. DI is gone, but I will always remember the magical times in bungalows, while we are creating new magical times at SSR.

If you ever see someone walking around SSR with a Disney Institute cap on, it might be me! I still take mine out and wear it there once in a while.
 
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We LOVED the old DI area. It's where we stayed on most visits between '83 and 2000 when it closed. We stayed in both the townhouses and bungalows. The bungalows were great - like a 1 bdrm DVC with a kitchenette like the studios. The townhouses were HUGE. The landscaping all around was beautiful, with lots of wildlife and water. Parking was right at the door and there wasn't a bad view.

We'd rent a golf cart for our trips and buzz back and forth to DTD. We still miss it! But DI's demise is the biggest reason we bought DVC. We bought BWV because we figured if we were gonna, we might as well be close to 2 parks.

I miss those golf carts, too. We used to get them for $10 a day! They plugged into rows of outlets outside the villas, and then we'd plug them into outlets all around DTD. We'd leave the cart at DTD and take a bus from DTD to a park. Then on the way back we shopped for breakfast stuff for the next day in the Gourmet Pantry, hop in the golf cart and whiz back to the villa in about tree minutes. It was great.

Ahhh, the good old days. :)

DisFlan
 
We were asking after the Villas during our stay and were told that some of the Hong Kong Disneyland CM's were using the units during their 5 month visit!

BarryB.
 
DW, DS (then 24 years old), and I spent a week at the Disney Institute during spring break of 2000. We booked a 4-day DI "package" that included meals, choice of classes, and accommodations. We then added on lodging for the rest of a full week's stay. The package included 6 training sessions for each of us. We were allowed to spread these over the entire week, so we generally selected a training session for a half-day and hit one of the parks for the rest of the day. I did two different cooking sessions (heart healthy cooking and a session on grilling), two different photography sessions (nature photography and architectural photography), a computer animation session, and a wine tasting session. DW did one cooking class, two gardening classes (taught in the greenhouse), two computer animation classes, and an introductory photography class. I think that DS did the same two computer animation classes, a couple of television production classes (there was a studio in the same building where the instructional kitchens were located), the introductory photography class, and a group tennis class (that was a last-minute substitution for the rock-climbing class that ended up being cancelled due to low enrollment).

The cooking sessions wrapped up with the opportunity to eat the product of your work (DW also did the heart healthy cooking session and we still fix the stuffed portobello mushroom that was the centerpiece of the meal we fixed). The equipment supplied for the outdoor grilling session included these fancy stainless gas grills that you now see advertised for about $5000 each. Nice stuff to dream about.

The photography sessions included a 90-minute classroom session followed by a trip to one of the parks to practice what you'd been taught in a approximately two-hour picture shooting session. Film/developing and use of a really fancy Nikon single lens reflex camera, lenses, and tripod (if you wished to carry one) were provided and the instructors (usually 2) were around to answer questions, suggest interesting subjects, and generally help you apply the techniques they discussed. The nature photography session moved over to the AK and the architectural photography session moved over to the Epcot World Showcase. Since we arrived at Epcot about 10 am, we had an hour to walk around shooting pictures in the WS prior to its 11 am opening; if we left the WS, we had to wait 'til 11 to get back in, so it was suggested we get all the pictures we wanted in this area prior to moving over to Future World. The introductory photography session that DW and DS did moved over to Downtown Disney for the practice session.

Because we purchased a package that included accommodations, 4 days worth of meals (that we were able to spread over a 7 day, 6 night stay), and the lessons, the price of instruction is a little hard to estimate, but I remember comparing the cost of the 6 lessons at the day-visitor rate and concluding that it was a pretty good deal. The $45 rate mentioned in an earlier post was actually available to any on-site guest, not just those at OKW; the DI would reimburse your cabfare if you were staying at one of the other resorts and wanted to come over for a particular session on a space-available basis. The cooking sessions were particularly popular with DI guests getting first crack at booking these. Actually, we pre-selected the sessions we planning to do a couple of months prior to our arrival at the institute.

The meal plan included vouchers for breakfasts, lunches, and dinners at the DI restaurant, Seasons. It was an excellent operation featuring American cuisine prepared using the freshest ingredients of the season. There was an additional "wild card" voucher that could be used for a spa treatment, private tennis lesson, or a meal at one of the Downtown Disney restaurants. DW and I ate at the Portobello Yacht Club while DS had a private tennis lesson with the on-site tennis pro.

Overall, our experience at the DI was outstanding. The DI concept included booking corporate training groups and providing "management training" along with access to the more fun options that we did (as a "team building" feature for a corporate group). I don't think the bookings ever reached the level expected in the original planning and the decreased travel, including corporate training travel, in the aftermath of 9/11 was the death knell for the DI concept.

Ralph
 
I love this thread!! We are in the process of purchasing at SSR, and I like learning about the history of what was there before... So interesting!

I never knew much about the Disney Insitute, I feel like I've stayed there after reading your post, Ralph. :)
 
Just a sad note for those who are unaware: played golf on the LBV course in January, from which you get to see many of the 3BR Treehouses. Several of them had severe damage from the hurricanes -- uprooted, large trees fell on them -- and others all had some minor damage. Not sure what they plan to do with those.
 
My wife and I did a five day residential cooking course at DI a few years back. I suppose it was sort of a forerunner to Food & Wine Festival. Have the day there were cooking classes, evenings there were fancy dinners with celebrity chefs. When not attending cookery demonstrations or classes, you could take other Institute Courses.

Amongst other things, I took the 'Architecture of Disney' tour (no longer offered). This tour took in Wilderness Lodge, Swan, Dolphin, Casting Centre building and Team Disney building.

Andrew
 



















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