caveat lector
Mouseketeer
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I'm going to be the odd ball out (nothing new there) but if all you all you are doing is pulling to Disney once a year and then using it for a short distance driving as a daily driver (dd) i would get yourself a gas 3/4 ton or 1 ton. Diesels do not like to be used as a short distance dd and do not like to sit. In addition the maintenance costs for a diesel are 2 or 3 times that of a gas engine plus diesel generally costs more then super unleaded so there is very little mileage vs fuel cost off set. Gone are the days of diesels getting good mileage (you can thank the EPA and the tree huggers for that)... The 6.7 ford does do a little better mileage then fords previous clean burn diesels but that added benefit is offset by having to use urea. Even then i doubt you will see better then low teens in the city and high teen on the highway. I would really look at a gas truck but if you are dead set on a diesel the 6.7 has not been a bad set up and the 6.4 wasn't either. Personally, i would get the 6.4 since it is the last of the international engines. This means you will be able to get parts for it from international and ford. How long will Ford supply parts for the 6.7 (the engine they build themselves) once they dump the 6.7 and move on to something else?? I own a 6.0 diesel and a 6.4 diesel and both have been problem free so i can only speak about ford trucks... By the way if you want great mileage you need to get a diesel 7.3, no emissions and best mileage of the lot (mid teens and low 20s on the highway). <All mileages are empty> Go in to your local dealers and look at the fit and finish and overall build quality of the three trucks and your choice will be obvious. The build quality is dramatically different from one manufacture to another...
We pull with a 2008 F250 crewcab 2wd 5.4 gasser with 3.73 rear. We go on 10+ weekend camping trips a season, usually within an hour or two of home. We went to Fort Wilderness in 2008 (4 months after buying the truck), and the truck was flawless.
With family, definitely get a crewcab -- the extended cab just doesn't have enough room, even if you think it does. The Ford superduty crewcabs are really big and roomy. The Dodge Megacab is great, but it cuts down on your bed size. I almost bought a megacab from a friend.
I average about 9 mpg towing our 21' TT, and just under 16mph empty on the highway.
I had a 2000 7.3 F250 previously, and honestly just got tired of the diesel. Although diesel is a lot more common these days, every once in awhile I would get caught running low and having to pass a lot of gas stations looking for diesel. I found maintenance costs to be a lot more expensive. The engine may very well last for 500,000 miles, but it better after spending so much money on it. 4 gallon (not quart!) oil changes of more expensive oil, replacing fuel filters (when was the last time you had to replace a fuel filter on a gasser?), draining water from the fuel filter (I had never heard of this before), being paranoid about the antifreeze/coolant (not just anything, but whatever is the most expensive at the parts store, if they have it), plugging in the engine block heater in the winter, waiting for it to warm up in the winter (neighbors love that), waiting five minutes at idle for the engine to cool down after driving (or you can cook the turbo), and more. And now diesel is averaging 40cents more a gallon than regular gas at the pumps in my area.
I got about 12-13mpg towing with it, and almost 21mpg empty on the highway.
I did like the truck, but just got tired of it. Doing just one or two long trips a year, that is hard to justify a diesel, especially at ~$8,000 more than a gas engine.
A friend bought a used Chevy with the Duramax. It is a great engine, very smooth, and REALLY quiet for a diesel! That is the best way to do it, I think -- if you really want a diesel, and don't have an unlimited budget, take your time to find a good used one.
Otherwise, buy a F350 Crewcab King Ranch! Yea Baby!
Both posts contains very interesting points that I had not considered, but will definitely be considered before the final purchase.
I was remiss in my original description on a couple of items. My 200-300 weekend trips do involve pulling my tt to local lake for family trips. Also, I would like (hope) that this truck carry's me to retirement. As such, it will be getting a lot more opportunity to pull my tt to far off lands. Ah, retirement.......I get excited just thinking about it.
