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[gradtchr]

Wow is all I can say. I am currently looking for a new job and I got a letter almost exactly like that for one of the positions I was interested in. I responded back to them thanking them for their time and consideration. The response I received back was that they were keeping my resume on file because the position had been filled in house but if something similar appeared they would be in touch.

I would never send back an angry or upset message because that really does show character that many employers do not want.

 

[MeanLaureen]

Wow. Just.. WOW.

You disrespected a hiring manager who had the decency to take the time to tell you that the job had been filled but she WAS interested in you and would like to keep you in mind for future openings? Talk about biting the hand that (could) feed you.

Did you think you were the only one up for the job? The job market is stiff out there. I get over 50 applicants for ONE part time sales position. The last spot I filled, I had received 88 applications for that one 15 hour a week position. There was no way I could personally contact every single person that dropped off their resume to tell them the position was filled. Had I done that and someone acted as you did, you could be darn sure I would make sure that every hiring manager in my field and immediate area knew about it.

It sounds in your post that you feel you have a feeling of entitlement to get a job if you send them your resume. The fact is, a company isn't even required to say "Boo" to you because you sent them your resume.

If I was looking for that job and received that email, my thought would have been "Darn, I missed out on that opening but she seems genuinely interested in me.. I hope something else opens up in the future and she calls me"

That potential employer treated you with respect and you in turn disrespected them. Sad, really.

 

[RadioFanatic]

I think someone doesn't want to work. Unfortunately, I know too many people like that.

 

[RadioNate]

What an attitude. "Shannon" was professional and courteous so you sent her a nasty email? And you wonder why you can't hold a job or get a new one?

You are sabotaging yourself left and right. No one is out to get you, you are your own worst enemy.

 

[gradtchr]

One other thought. Hiring managers do move on to different companies on occassion and unfortunately situations and names do stick in peoples minds which can hurt if you are trying for a job at the new place they go to.

 

[FSUGrad97]

What an attitude. "Shannon" was professional and courteous so you sent her a nasty email? And you wonder why you can't hold a job or get a new one?

You are sabotaging yourself left and right. No one is out to get you, you are your own worst enemy.

ITA!

If you are giving them this much attitude BEFORE YOU ARE EVEN HIRED, any capable HR/hiring person is going to run in the other direction! In their minds, they can only imagine what kind of employee you would end up being if you are acting this way.

 

[Obi-Wan Pinobi]

One other thought. Hiring managers do move on to different companies on occassion and unfortunately situations and names do stick in peoples minds which can hurt if you are trying for a job at the new place they go to.

Not to mention they talk at vendor shows and technology classes. I know when I worked in the carpet industry, the big three manufacturers were friendly with each other. I could see them talking about a "Can you believe this person had the nerve to.." over a break during a vendor show.

 

[ducklite]

Not to mention they talk at vendor shows and technology classes. I know when I worked in the carpet industry, the big three manufacturers were friendly with each other. I could see them talking about a "Can you believe this person had the nerve to.." over a break during a vendor show.

Don't you know it! The company I work for owns about 40 franchise stores from a single brand. You better beleive that I talk to the hiring people from other companies that also own these same brand stores, and we compare notes--we tend to overlap territories, and thus hiring pools, and we talk. Oh yeah, we talk.

Also, About eight years ago I needed to hire an assistant. Long story short I got several resumes from another hiring manager at another company--people she had interviewed and loved, but for one reason or another she had hired someone else. In one case it was because the applicant lived about two blocks from my downtown east side office, while the job she had applied for was uptown on the west side. I called her, told her how I got her resume, asked if she was interested in an interview, and hired her the next morning.

For anyone who read my post about netowrking on the budget board a couple weeks ago--this is another example. Had this young lady burned her bridges with the other hiring manager, she never would have found the perfect job with me. (She literally set her own hours around her school schedule and had a casual work environment.)

Anne

 

[Obi-Wan Pinobi]

Don't you know it! The company I work for owns about 40 franchise stores from a single brand. You better beleive that I talk to the hiring people from other companies that also own these same brand stores, and we compare notes--we tend to overlap territories, and thus hiring pools, and we talk. Oh yeah, we talk.

Also, About eight years ago I needed to hire an assistant. Long story short I got several resumes from another hiring manager at another company--people she had interviewed and loved, but for one reason or another she had hired someone else. In one case it was because the applicant lived about two blocks from my downtown east side office, while the job she had applied for was uptown on the west side. I called her, told her how I got her resume, asked if she was interested in an interview, and hired her the next morning.

For anyone who read my post about netowrking on the budget board a couple weeks ago--this is another example. Had this young lady burned her bridges with the other hiring manager, she never would have found the perfect job with me. (She literally set her own hours around her school schedule and had a casual work environment.)

Anne

Exactly. The world is a lot smaller than you might think it is and once you start burning your bridges, you will find yourself unhireable. Just as that jerk that worked for DW Lauri did. 8 months later and he's still unemployed.

 

[gradtchr]

For anyone who read my post about netowrking on the budget board a couple weeks ago--this is another example. Had this young lady burned her bridges with the other hiring manager, she never would have found the perfect job with me. (She literally set her own hours around her school schedule and had a casual work environment.)

Anne

I missed that thread but I am going to go looking for it now! I am trying to move from the academic world to the corporate world and need as much help networking as possible.

 

[gradtchr]

Exactly. The world is a lot smaller than you might think it is and once you start burning your bridges, you will find yourself unhireable. Just as that jerk that worked for DW Lauri did. 8 months later and he's still unemployed.

HA HA! I was actually just thinking about that situation earlier this week and was hoping that all was going well with it. I"m so glad to hear that he's still unemployed........ Ok I'm mean at times.

 

[MushyMushy]

Is that kind of thing even legal? My DH does a lot of hiring and he has to be soooooo ridiculously careful about following procedure. I can't imagine him being able to pass along a resume to another company.

 

[rigs32]

Also, if you ever have a childcare problem before being hired, NEVER let them know that's why you need to reschedule. If you're willing to allow such things to affect the interview, it sends a message that you'd have no problem allowing it affect your ability to be at work if hired. It's a whole lot better to suddenly get "sick" or just say family emergency.

 

[ducklite]

Is that kind of thing even legal? My DH does a lot of hiring and he has to be soooooo ridiculously careful about following procedure. I can't imagine him being able to pass along a resume to another company.

Well, the girl I hired certainly didn't seem to mind!

I think you have to be more careful about giving bad references and such.

Anne

 

[Poohnatic]

TOV,

Do you even WANT a job? I ask because you're supposed to present your BEST behavior when applying and interviewing for a job! If this is what you present to a prospective employer, you've got a snowball's chance in you know where of ever getting a job!

Personal experience here:
I worked for a major credit card processor in the NY area. So did my then fiance. The employer decided to relocate the facility to Maryland. Some departments were offered relocation, but mine was not. I was laid off. We knew that my DFi's department would be relocated, so I applied to the facility in Maryland. Two trips and six interviews later (over the course of four months) I was rehired. I was a model employee who'd had two promotions-and I still got the 'resume on file, we'll call you' letter you complain about.

My last employer interviewed me and kept me 'waiting in the wings' for six months. I got a monthly touch base, there was an opening when I interviewed-but an internal candidate got first dibs.

In searching for the job I have now, I interviewed for a different retailer. Again, they gave me the 'thanks, but we can't hire you right now' letter, but my contact physically came to see me my last day at the old job to tell me she had something.

The letter you speak of is a courtesy. With the attitude you're displaying, you didn't even deserve that.

Face facts: until you have a major attitude adjustment, you will never rise out of menial jobs. The person who lives closer may have had a 'person in common' that the owner contacted after they had interviewed. Maybe they were nodding acquaintances in the school car rider line. You never know and now you never will.

My store opened in June. We anticipated doing business closer to one of our other locations-but the summer is slow for us. I interviewed four candidates that I would have hired in a heartbeat, but I didn't have the payroll to do so. They got emails in which I explained that I didn't have an opening right now, that I expected business to pick up when school got back in session and that I would contact them when I could begin to hire to see if they would still be interested.

Mushy, we don't neccessarily pass on the actual apps-more like "I interviewed this person that would be a great fit for you" This happened last year. I had a young lady interview for me that was amazing, but she was looking for more hours than I could promise. I happened to pop into another store where I was friendly with the manager and she'd said she was having a hard time finding people. I gave her the young lady's name,then called the young lady and gave her name and phone number of that manager-she got hired.

If you came to me for a job, and displayed that attitude with me, your application would be in the 'dead file' before I even finished reading your email. I'm not subjecting my valued employees to someone acting like a petulant child.

Suzanne

 

[Tjaleks]

TOV,
Do you even WANT a job? I ask because you're supposed to present your BEST behavior when applying and interviewing for a job! If this is what you present to a prospective employer, you've got a snowball's chance in you know where of ever getting a job!

Funny you should mention this. (a little off topic) I had a person come to an interview a couple of weeks ago in a tie dye shirt and short set. Not only did she look bad, but turned me off from the moment I met her. We are a very casual work environment, but come on, if you are coming for a job interview regardless of where it is you need to look your best. She then proceeded to chew gum through the whole interview. I just thought it was common sense and people would know better than chew gum in an interview, let alone where shorts, but I guess not.

 

[CarolA]

Based on what I am reading here, I wish you look getting a job.

If you have HALF the attitude with the interviewer that you are displaying here. (firing off rash emails, calling people "snooty' etc,) there isn't going to be a job!

 

[Evil Princess]

Based on what I am reading here, I wish you look getting a job.

If you have HALF the attitude with the interviewer that you are displaying here. (firing off rash emails, calling people "snooty' etc,) there isn't going to be a job!

Eh, she's been displaying this attitude for years on the dis. Same ol stuff, different year/job.

Face the facts TOV, you have a poor attitude and absolutely no sense when it comes to job interviews or respect for your supervisors. You have three pages of people telling you that you are WRONG, yet again, though I'm sure in a couple of months we'll see a similar, "Woe is me, why can't I get a job, why is everyone out to get me" post.

 

[annegal]

Don't you know it! The company I work for owns about 40 franchise stores from a single brand. You better beleive that I talk to the hiring people from other companies that also own these same brand stores, and we compare notes--we tend to overlap territories, and thus hiring pools, and we talk. Oh yeah, we talk.

Same thing in the smallish industry I'm in.
If it's retail , you would not believe how much networking goes on !

Most job applicants never get a response at all, much less the polite one you received.

 

[dcgrumpy]

But it kind of bothered me that was the reply I got after I took the time to send her my resume and inquire about her company.

You act like you're doing her a favor. you're the one who's unemployed.