what not to do as a parent.

I would send my 7 year old to the bathroom by himself, in fact, I do all the time. His older brother started going to the bathroom by himself at restaurants when he was about 5. The older two often pair together for bathroom breaks and now, the one twin who is potty trained goes with them as well. At Disney, I would not allow one of the younger ones to go without me, but the older two for sure.
Seriously, though, do you have any idea how many security cameras are at Disney? They see everything and have security tunnels under the park. Security guards come out of nowhere quickly and unobserved. Out of all the places on earth to let your child out of your sight, if something were to happen at Disney, the creep would be caught. If not right away, his picture would be all over the news pretty quickly.
 
The boy told us he was 7. The bathroom was no where close by. The baby was under 1.

So you just decided to ask the child his age? I'm sure he would have thought that rather weird! Did you ask him how old the baby was too? And what bathroom he intended on using! Trust me if you came and asked either of my 3 boys any of these questions they would tell you your a stranger and they don't give out that information to strangers! They would then cone & tell me and I would very shortly after be coming to ask you WHY you felt the need to interrogate my boys!! :confused:
 
Let me say right off that I am not a judgemental parent. I will not judge any of you for your opinions on this thread. That being said, I would like to just put some facts out there. That way everyone can make their own decisions based on the facts, not opinions. Every parent has to make their own decisions in regards to their own kids. I think we sometimes get caught up in trying to prove that our way is the best way, and don't look at the facts in order to make our guidelines for our kids. In reading this thread I saw several general statements that weren't based as much on fact as they were on the "It won't happen to us" mentality. In my line of work I come across parents every day who didn't know how easy it is for someone to hurt a child, and never thought it would happen to their kid. So, in order for you to make an informed decision, I looked up some current statistics.

Again, I am not saying I agree or disagree with sending a kid to the bathroom on their own. I have had to do things I wouldn't normally do in a pinch before. You really never know what is going on in any given situation. I don't think the child's age, or how old they look really matters bc it was that parent's decision to do what she did, and it's everyone else's right to do the same or differently. In any case, here are the facts:

1. 49% of kidnappings are family kidnappings (divorce, etc..), 27% are aquaintance kidnappings (someone who knows the victim or the family), and 24% are stranger kidnappings.
2. Of the 24% of stranger kidnappings, in most cases, the abductor has had some kind of contact with the child at some point. That however, does not mean they know the person. It can be as simple as someone observing the child as they pass by or speaking to the child while a parent is not looking.
3. In the US, there are about 2,000 reported missing (I am editing my mistake since it was pointed out!) per day, with more females than males being taken in stranger abductions. This number does include runaways and such, and most of the reported missing are found and returned within 24-48 hours. (There. All fixed.)
4. Most abductions take place in outdoor places, (71%) but...most happen close to the child's home.
5. 20% of abducted children are not found alive.
6. 49% of stranger abductions happen to serve a sexual purpose. In those cases, 40% of the victims were murdered.

I say this only to give information. I personally choose to take my kids to the bathroom, but if my older children are the ones who need to go, I will allow them to go as long as I can see all exits of the bathroom. I don't feel as though I have to hold their hands, but I still want to make sure no one leaves with my kid. The statistics are enough for me to believe that most likely my child won't be abducted at Disney, but I personally am not willing to risk the chance. That's my personal choice though. I will not make a snap judgement if someone else decides to let their kid go on their own. To each their own. I will hold the hand of my 6 year old and take her to the bathroom with me. I don't go in the stall with her, but I will go in a stall close by and have her wait to leave the stall if she finishes first so that she won't be standing there without supervision until I am done. Again, it's a personal decision.

What I am about to say comes from the point of view of a sensei. Every day I teach kids who have been abused in some way. I am required as part of my job to read books about the sickest people in the world so that I am able to have the skills to teach these kids how to heal from their wounds. (Our studio is not just about kicking and punching. We have 2 psychologists on staff, and the rest of our staff must have the equivalent to a degree in psychology before becoming an instructor.) The best thing any parent can do is to not only teach them about bad people (I say bad people b/c of the family factor. It's not all strangers, so stranger danger becomes moot in most cases), but to give them the physical skills they need to defend themselves. I strongly believe in especially girls knowing how to fight off an attacker. My daughters know how to fight against fully grown men. I've seen them do it. However, I still choose to make sure I can see those exits. That's because of all the schooling I have done on how attackers choose their victims. It could be just a look that convinces them they have to do anything they can to have that child. Most of all I think we all have to use our God-given intuition. If something feels wrong, don't do it. If you feel safe sending your child to the bathroom, then by all means, do it. If you don't feel it's safe, don't. There's been times I have been uncomfortable around certain people and decided to keep my kids close and get them away. That person may have been completely innocent of any malicious intent, but I wasn't going to take the chance. I have to trust my own instincts. Most of all, just be aware of your environment. I teach my kids how to look around without appearing to do so. I show them how to look under cars from a distance away, and to park away from things that someone could hide behind. Notice I teach them these things now and none of them are of driving age yet. I teach them to listen to their guts, and to avoid potentially dangerous situations. That is our job as parents. It is not our job to argue who is right and who is wrong when it comes to parenting choices.

A bit more information (all of the info here is something you can google yourself by the way):

TOP CHOKING HAZARDS:

1. hot dogs
2. peanuts
3. carrots
4. boned chicken
5. candy
6. meat
7. popcorn
8. boned fish
9. sunflower seeds
10. apples

and a couple more that weren't in this study, but I have heard of myself are: marshmallows (they get lodged in the throat and are hard to pull out b/c they are sticky and stretchy), cheese (my daughter went to the ER b/c my mom didn't realize she was choking on cheese) and I had another daughter choke on mozzarella sticks with me sitting right there b/c they were melty and stretchy. Pretzels-a visitor to my parents' house gave my son one and I happened to get home just in time to notice him choking on it. Grapes-common sense.

I'm sure you have all experienced something in regards to any one of these and more. That doesn't mean we are going to stop giving our kids these items, nor should we judge others who do if we decide we are going to rip them from our kids' diets. I gave my kids hot dogs, but I cut them into miniscule pieces and watched them eat them. Same with apples, carrots, popcorn, meat, etc... It's not our place to judge other people's choices when it comes to their kids just because we choose other paths. Shoot, if I worried about every item my kids could choke on, they would be on a liquid diet. Nevermind. They would never eat b/c I've choked on liquid before! I am just going to do what I can to make sure they are safe in eating those items. I would make sure the pieces were small, I would watch the child, and I would educate myself on how to help a child who is choking.

I too strongly believe in giving my kids their independence. I don't think that means I can't protect them in circumstances I see fit to do so though. I teach them independence in as many ways as I possibly can. I start by teaching them to have responsibilities at home, school, church, karate, and in the community. I guess what I am trying to say is that you do things your way and I'll do things mine. I can guarantee we won't see eye to eye on everything, but that's okay.
 
A 7 year old recently abducted, raped and dumped in the trash. Abducted from the playground where she lived. Too bad her mommy wasn't the babying type....otherwise this girl would still be alive. But I suppose some of you think she's a great mommy because she allowed her daughter to cope without her being there, teaching her some responsibility by being in the hands of a 20 year old psycho. Do you yet see where I'm coming from? Probably not.... :(
 

A 7 year old recently abducted, raped and dumped in the trash. Abducted from the playground where she lived. Too bad her mommy wasn't the babying type....otherwise this girl would still be alive. But I suppose some of you think she's a great mommy because she allowed her daughter to cope without her being there, teaching her some responsibility by being in the hands of a 20 year old psycho. Do you yet see where I'm coming from? Probably not.... :(

This is the kind of stuff I have to learn about on a daily basis. It's disgusting. What's worse is that I had to read a book called "Predators" by Anna Salter, and she went into the prison system to interview some of the most famous predators. Some of our instructors couldn't make it past the first several pages. I made myself do it so I would know what to look out for for my own children. It broke my heart. The sickest thing was that most of them aren't capable of remorse. They smile when they talk about what they did. Makes me want to puke.
 
A 7 year old recently abducted, raped and dumped in the trash. Abducted from the playground where she lived. Too bad her mommy wasn't the babying type....otherwise this girl would still be alive. But I suppose some of you think she's a great mommy because she allowed her daughter to cope without her being there, teaching her some responsibility by being in the hands of a 20 year old psycho. Do you yet see where I'm coming from? Probably not.... :(
Way to exploit someone else's tragedy to serve your own agenda.:sad2:

As horrible as what happened to that little girl is, we cannot elt it make us live in fear. There is no reason that little girl should not have been playing in the park. It was a one in a million freak thing that happened to her, and being alone in the park was likely NOT the reason she was taken. Predators typically pick out thier victims and follow them for a while. He was just waiting for an opportunity ot take her and if not the park it would have been somewhere else. Sending her to the park that day didn't get her killed and I think it is horrible of you to suggest so.
 
A 7 year old recently abducted, raped and dumped in the trash. Abducted from the playground where she lived. Too bad her mommy wasn't the babying type....otherwise this girl would still be alive. But I suppose some of you think she's a great mommy because she allowed her daughter to cope without her being there, teaching her some responsibility by being in the hands of a 20 year old psycho. Do you yet see where I'm coming from? Probably not.... :(



There is a HUGE difference between letting your child go to the bathroom alone and leaving them at a playground while you go across the apartment complex to get drinks. 5 minutes in a crowded bathroom vs 15 minutes alone at a playground.
 
Not taking sides here but just wanted to clarify. I've been following the case in Georgia. The little girl was not alone at the playground Nor was she abducted from there. She was with a babysitter and was sent back to the apt to get drinks for herself and the other kids. She was taken when she left the playground and was dead within an hour and a half.
 
A 7 year old recently abducted, raped and dumped in the trash. Abducted from the playground where she lived. Too bad her mommy wasn't the babying type....otherwise this girl would still be alive. But I suppose some of you think she's a great mommy because she allowed her daughter to cope without her being there, teaching her some responsibility by being in the hands of a 20 year old psycho. Do you yet see where I'm coming from? Probably not.... :(

Exploiting a horrifying tragedy to support your own agenda is pretty low. Also, that isn't what happened.

A few years ago an 18 year old girl was abducted from a target parking lot. When you heard about that did you blame the mother for not supervising her daughter? What age is the cut-off?

Statistically, the most dangerous place for your children to be in is a car. Do you refuse to let them ride in one for fear of them getting killed in a wreck? I'm guessing not.

The fact is that the world is fraught with danger. Every single decision we make has the potential to end in tragedy. We each have to decide for ourselves what risks are acceptable.
 
It all depends on the parent's upbringing and culture.

When I first came to Korea, I was shocked to see early elementary aged student riding city buses by themselves. Then again, many of them attend after school academies until close to 10pm. Some of them are picked up by parents afterwards, most take an academy bus home, some walk home.

After living here for 3 1/2 years, I see no problem with it anymore.

Like has been mentioned before, only we know what's best for our own kids. That does not necessarily mean we know what is best for others.

It really is a shock to see some of what young kids there do by themselves. I was actually freaked out the first time I rode a public bus into Seoul and the Korean soldiers had their weapons pointed at the vehicles. I could not imagine how my kids would have reacted but then again the oldest had armed soldiers in his elementary school at Ft Riley after the 9-11 attacks.

I think many parents on here would be lost if they lived in Korea and saw that culture first hand.
 
The boy told us he was 7. The bathroom was no where close by. The baby was under 1.

I would love to hear how that conversation went. Also, can you please share exactly how far away the bathroom was, 50 feet, 100 feet, 200 feet. Also, did they have a bib on that baby, and if so what color was it?
 
A few years ago an 18 year old girl was abducted from a target parking lot. When you heard about that did you blame the mother for not supervising her daughter? What age is the cut-off?


This happened at my local Target, less than 3 miles from my house. The girl lived less than a mile from us. Her dad was a police detective. She was fully aware of dangers and had been well schooled on how to avoid dangerous situations. She of all young women was taught from a very early age to be very aware of her surroundings. The man that abducted, raped and finally killed her spotted her in the store. He stated during an interview that he at first thought she was around the age of 12 (again it's difficult to tell ages) and that she had nice legs. That's all it took. A few minutes later he followed her out of the store, smashed her head into the side of her car and shoved her body into the passenger seat. He drove her across state lines into a secluded area, about 15 miles from where she was abducted and raped and killed her. It has also been reported but not verified that she tried to connect with him, talk to him and make him realize she was a real person. Every thing she had been taught to do in this type of situation. Sadly it did not work and our community lost a promising young woman that day.

The family could have secluded themselves and their other children, but they realized the low chance of this happening. Instead her father became a spokesman for missing and exploited children and has admitted that sometimes protecting your kids and preparing them is just not enough. Evil will find you if it wants to. The murderer admitted he thought she was 12, and yet he still followed her out of the store. As far as he knew there was a parent nearby or waiting in the car. It didn't matter and had she been 12 and had a parent been with her or in the car waiting, I'm sad to say I believe the outcome might have still been the same.

Cases like this are tragic and sad, but are you going to not take your child out of the house? Are you not going to let them go with you to a local store to shop? This didn't happen in the big bad city, we live in a suburb of Kansas City. One that has a very low crime rate, top rated schools and kids still play without worry outside, alone. This could have been any young girl in the store wearing shorts. The murderer/kidnapper/rapist admitted it was her legs that caught his attention first. Are you not going to let your child wear shorts or skirts? What if the next psycho is interested in your child's eyes, hair, or hands? You never know what is going to trigger someone that is not wired right, you can never protect your child enough, and due to this case obviously you can never prepare you or your child enough to completely avoid these types of situations.

If the steps you as a parent take to protect your child are to have them within an arm's length at all times, to follow them to a public restroom or never let them outside alone that is up to you. I am not going to judge or make a panicked post about the damage you are doing or possibly creating. We all do the best we can as a parent. All I ask is in return is do not judge my parenting skills just because I decide to teach my young child to feel secure with her own instincts, teach her how to react to certain situations or how to be aware of her surroundings. At the end of the day we are both doing the same thing as a parent, and that is trying to keep our children safe the best way we know how. We just happen to take different steps in doing so and hope for the same outcome.
 
This happened at my local Target, less than 3 miles from my house. The girl lived less than a mile from us. Her dad was a police detective. She was fully aware of dangers and had been well schooled on how to avoid dangerous situations. She of all young women was taught from a very early age to be very aware of her surroundings. The man that abducted, raped and finally killed her spotted her in the store. He stated during an interview that he at first thought she was around the age of 12 (again it's difficult to tell ages) and that she had nice legs. That's all it took. A few minutes later he followed her out of the store, smashed her head into the side of her car and shoved her body into the passenger seat. He drove her across state lines into a secluded area, about 15 miles from where she was abducted and raped and killed her. It has also been reported but not verified that she tried to connect with him, talk to him and make him realize she was a real person. Every thing she had been taught to do in this type of situation. Sadly it did not work and our community lost a promising young woman that day.

The family could have secluded themselves and their other children, but they realized the low chance of this happening. Instead her father became a spokesman for missing and exploited children and has admitted that sometimes protecting your kids and preparing them is just not enough. Evil will find you if it wants to. The murderer admitted he thought she was 12, and yet he still followed her out of the store. As far as he knew there was a parent nearby or waiting in the car. It didn't matter and had she been 12 and had a parent been with her or in the car waiting, I'm sad to say I believe the outcome might have still been the same.

Cases like this are tragic and sad, but are you going to not take your child out of the house? Are you not going to let them go with you to a local store to shop? This didn't happen in the big bad city, we live in a suburb of Kansas City. One that has a very low crime rate, top rated schools and kids still play without worry outside, alone. This could have been any young girl in the store wearing shorts. The murderer/kidnapper/rapist admitted it was her legs that caught his attention first. Are you not going to let your child wear shorts or skirts? What if the next psycho is interested in your child's eyes, hair, or hands? You never know what is going to trigger someone that is not wired right, you can never protect your child enough, and due to this case obviously you can never prepare you or your child enough to completely avoid these types of situations.

If the steps you as a parent take to protect your child are to have them within an arm's length at all times, to follow them to a public restroom or never let them outside alone that is up to you. I am not going to judge or make a panicked post about the damage you are doing or possibly creating. We all do the best we can as a parent. All I ask is in return is do not judge my parenting skills just because I decide to teach my young child to feel secure with her own instincts, teach her how to react to certain situations or how to be aware of her surroundings. At the end of the day we are both doing the same thing as a parent, and that is trying to keep our children safe the best way we know how. We just happen to take different steps in doing so and hope for the same outcome.


You could be a karate instructor!!! This whole thing hurts my heart. I love children. That's why I do what I do. It's why I have so many kids. Any child that has to go through that ...well, there just are no words. You are right, and you actually use the same words I use when teaching safety courses, leadership classes, self defense, etc...Be aware of your surroundings. We teach the ABC's of conflict avoidance. A stands for Avoid potentially dangerous situations/be aware of your environment. That is the best thing we can teach our kids. I will still watch those bathroom exits b/c that is what makes me feel safe, but that is my choice. I don't think I need to get into the stall and wipe my kids' butts, but I will do what I can to keep them safe. I want them to grow up knowing how to avoid potentially dangerous situations in hopes that they will have the knowledge to keep themselves safe. I had some close calls as a youngster. If I had known what I know now, I would've had the tools I needed to be safe. At some point we have to let our babies fly though. What age should that be? Well, that's up to each family to decide.
 
You could be a karate instructor!!! This whole thing hurts my heart. I love children. That's why I do what I do. It's why I have so many kids. Any child that has to go through that ...well, there just are no words. You are right, and you actually use the same words I use when teaching safety courses, leadership classes, self defense, etc...Be aware of your surroundings. We teach the ABC's of conflict avoidance. A stands for Avoid potentially dangerous situations/be aware of your environment. That is the best thing we can teach our kids. I will still watch those bathroom exits b/c that is what makes me feel safe, but that is my choice. I don't think I need to get into the stall and wipe my kids' butts, but I will do what I can to keep them safe. I want them to grow up knowing how to avoid potentially dangerous situations in hopes that they will have the knowledge to keep themselves safe. I had some close calls as a youngster. If I had known what I know now, I would've had the tools I needed to be safe. At some point we have to let our babies fly though. What age should that be? Well, that's up to each family to decide.

Funny you mention martial arts. My "little" brother became a Shodan (1st degree black belt) in Tsuruoka Karate-Do last summer at the age of 19. He has been teaching DD5 since she was 3. DD is one of the most confident children I know. Of course I'm just a proud mom so I could be biased. :confused3 Some of this confidence is her nature, but I will credit another large part of it to her early karate training and also her participation on the gym team and dance classes. This doesn't mean she's any more or less safe on the playground than another child who has a parent still standing at the end of the slide waiting for them at the age of 8. I don't really give those parents a second thought and hope they do the same for me, as I sit to the side reading a book while my 5 year old runs and plays. Honestly I think too many people are too worried about what everyone else is doing. On our Disney trip we sat next to a nice family with young kids and I spent about 20 minutes talking to the mom, waiting for the parade to start. At the moment I can't tell you specifically what we talked about, but I can tell you how exciting and wonderful the parade was and how much my child enjoyed it.
 
Funny you mention martial arts. My "little" brother became a Shodan (1st degree black belt) in Tsuruoka Karate-Do last summer at the age of 19. He has been teaching DD5 since she was 3. DD is one of the most confident children I know. Of course I'm just a proud mom so I could be biased. :confused3 Some of this confidence is her nature, but I will credit another large part of it to her early karate training and also her participation on the gym team and dance classes. This doesn't mean she's any more or less safe on the playground than another child who has a parent still standing at the end of the slide waiting for them at the age of 8. I don't really give those parents a second thought and hope they do the same for me, as I sit to the side reading a book while my 5 year old runs and plays. Honestly I think too many people are too worried about what everyone else is doing. On our Disney trip we sat next to a nice family with young kids and I spent about 20 minutes talking to the mom, waiting for the parade to start. At the moment I can't tell you specifically what we talked about, but I can tell you how exciting and wonderful the parade was and how much my child enjoyed it.
I guess I just recognized another martial arts family without realizing it! You speak martial arts, as do I. We have a language all our own. My dad watched me take my black belt test, and he said "It was funny b/c you guys have your own language. The instructor would say one word I didn't recognize (think: flashing wings, sword and shield, or 5 swords), and all of a sudden you were kicking some guy's butt!" He was sort of fascinated by it all. Way to get your daughter the skills she needs! I have a special place in my heart for teaching girls to fight when needed. I am a rape survivor and never want my daughters to have to go through that. My oldest daughter competes, and it makes me happy when she fights boys and wins. I feel bad when the boys cry, but very proud of my once-shy daughter. I have included a link to a tournament my daughter was in a couple years ago. She competed with boys. If you decide to watch, keep in mind that though my daughter is taller than the boys she fought against, they are in the same weight class. I guess that sort of goes along with some of the arguments in this thread.

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrHEcF1MwLQ

Anyway, you don't have to watch it, but it's there if you want to. I always say to my students: "Chicks Kick!!!" Karate helps kids build confidence, and predators don't look for confident kids to take. It is a fact that they look for kids who lack confidence. Kids who stare at the ground and don't make eye contact or are unsure of themselves are often the victims of attack. That's how I was. I won't make that same mistake with my daughters. I'm not as worried about my son, but I have made sure he is capable too. He is a very strong fighter, but between karate and church has been raised to make smart choices. I just hope it's enough.
 
I'm kind of shocked at some of the responses here. I would never allow my 7 year old to go find a bathroom by himself at disneyworld.....heck I don't even let him go find a bathroom by himself at a restaurant! Why is being a cautious parent mean I'm babying my kids??? Disneyworld is very crowded with all sorts of people and I wouldn't want my kid running into one of the wrong sorts on the way or in the bathroom. You may want your child to "grow up" by such an experience but not me!7 is just too young, especially there. And about the popcorn thing....that's just stupid, I don't care what anyone says!

:rolleyes:

But you're in DISland now, SweetMissy, just play along.
 
Let me say right off that I am not a judgemental parent. I will not judge any of you for your opinions on this thread. That being said, I would like to just put some facts out there. That way everyone can make their own decisions based on the facts, not opinions. Every parent has to make their own decisions in regards to their own kids. I think we sometimes get caught up in trying to prove that our way is the best way, and don't look at the facts in order to make our guidelines for our kids. In reading this thread I saw several general statements that weren't based as much on fact as they were on the "It won't happen to us" mentality. In my line of work I come across parents every day who didn't know how easy it is for someone to hurt a child, and never thought it would happen to their kid. So, in order for you to make an informed decision, I looked up some current statistics.

Again, I am not saying I agree or disagree with sending a kid to the bathroom on their own. I have had to do things I wouldn't normally do in a pinch before. You really never know what is going on in any given situation. I don't think the child's age, or how old they look really matters bc it was that parent's decision to do what she did, and it's everyone else's right to do the same or differently. In any case, here are the facts:

1. 49% of kidnappings are family kidnappings (divorce, etc..), 27% are aquaintance kidnappings (someone who knows the victim or the family), and 24% are stranger kidnappings.
2. Of the 24% of stranger kidnappings, in most cases, the abductor has had some kind of contact with the child at some point. That however, does not mean they know the person. It can be as simple as someone observing the child as they pass by or speaking to the child while a parent is not looking.
3. In the US, there are about 2,000 abductions per day, with more females than males being taken in stranger abductions.
4. Most abductions take place in outdoor places, (71%) but...most happen close to the child's home.
5. 20% of abducted children are not found alive.
6. 49% of stranger abductions happen to serve a sexual purpose. In those cases, 40% of the victims were murdered.

Those are not facts. They are not close to facts. Where in the ever loving heck did you find those statistics? Because... what? Unless my math is way off, they also contradict themselves completely.

If the '2000 abductions per day' are supposed to refer to children, your statistics have 40 dead kidnapped children a day (3 and 5).

If we combine 1, 3 and 6, that'd be... 96 children a day murdered by kidnappers who sexually assault and kill them.

That could not possibly be more wrong or ridiculous. Where in the ever loving heck...

There are about 100 children PER YEAR in the United States who are abducted and killed. That statistic has been pretty steady for ages.

The VAST majority of abductions are familial. The number of non-familial abductions is debatable, but I've never seen it above a few thousand PER YEAR, and that is with the most generous definition of "abducted" and with more than 90% of those returned safely. Stricter definitions place stranger abductions overall in the low hundreds per year with a good percentage being returned.

Violent crime has fallen over the past 4 or so decades, across the board, all over the United States.

The idea that children are being abducted left and right is not only false and ridiculous but harmful.
 
In any case, here are the facts:

1. 49% of kidnappings are family kidnappings (divorce, etc..), 27% are aquaintance kidnappings (someone who knows the victim or the family), and 24% are stranger kidnappings.
2. Of the 24% of stranger kidnappings, in most cases, the abductor has had some kind of contact with the child at some point. That however, does not mean they know the person. It can be as simple as someone observing the child as they pass by or speaking to the child while a parent is not looking.
3. In the US, there are about 2,000 abductions per day, with more females than males being taken in stranger abductions.
4. Most abductions take place in outdoor places, (71%) but...most happen close to the child's home.
5. 20% of abducted children are not found alive.
6. 49% of stranger abductions happen to serve a sexual purpose. In those cases, 40% of the victims were murdered.

Would you mind providing a source for those statistics? They certainly make the world seem much more dangerous than the statistics I've read.

There are certainly not 2,000 abductions per day. There are 2,000 people reported missing every day, but less than 9% of those have actually been abducted.
 
In the big picture we all parent different. I feel the op mispoke with the initial post and I also feel others in the thread did the same. The way you parent may be odd to me and vice versa. Does that mean it's wrong?

For example , I see children talking back to parents on a daily basis. In my home that is NOT allowed. My children are also taught to call adults ma'am or sir. Is it wrong if your child talks back to you? I believe so but I don't feel it makes me a superior parent. We all do what works for us.

Jumping from letting your child go to the bathroom alone to child rape and murder can be seen by some to be excessive. As well as saying a child who is not allowed to go to the bathroom by themselves in Disney at age 7 will never learn responsibility and is being babied. Everyone gets so defensive. Just realize what works in your home doesn't work in your neighbors.
 

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