What is wrong with the Mayor of Baltimore?

[robinb]

If the moderators have a problem with it they can delete it. You are the one bringing attention to it.

I didn't bring attention to it. Another poster did (as did others for the political content). I simply verified that there was indeed a violent photo that you missed in your haste to share it with the DIS. Frankly, I am shocked that you are not taking responsibility for the links you post. It's an easy fix and it says a lot about you that you don't care if you subject people to violent images.

 

[Goofy'slady]

That's the kind of people who can turn an awful situation around! It may not solve everything, but they are making a difference.

Did you see the little seven year old? That's hope for the future right there.

And those are the very people that will be glossed over in the news. Just like people assuming that murders within the community aren't talked about and there is no outrage. Trust me there is YOU just don't get wind of it because it's has been decided by the media that it's not news worthy to go beyond a corner article of a local newspaper IF it even goes that far. The concern is there and there are citizens who are trying to put an end to it and doing their part.

 

[Dakota731]

No, the vast majority of our police-involved shootings don't make the national news.

Only the ones involving a WHITE officer. If a black cop shoots a black perpetrator it's assumed to be justified but if a white policeman is involved, it's headline news. If you run away when a cop pulls you over or punch him or grab for his gun, he is justified using force and most likely you are involved in a criminal activity. Contrary to liberal news, most black cops are not strolling the streets looking for black teens to beat up. They are there to protect the LAW ABIDING working class citizens that live in those neighborhoods. Though for the life of me, I can't figure out why any young white man or woman would want to be a police officer. They risk the lives every day yet are condemned, spit upon, hurled bricks at and seem to be more hated than the thugs who burn down senior citizen homes and neighborhood drug stores.

 

[abk96]

And those are the very people that will be glossed over in the news. Just like people assuming that murders within the community aren't talked about and there is no outrage. Trust me there is YOU just don't get wind of it because it's has been decided by the media that it's not news worthy to go beyond a corner article of a local newspaper IF it even goes that far. The concern is there and there are citizens who are trying to put an end to it and doing their part.

Not saying that the murders aren't stated on the news or in the paper either. I'm stating that there's no protests or uproar for other murders in the community. It makes it seem like those aren't AS important and it's just a way of life so people become callus to them.

 

[DopeyDame]

Only the ones involving a WHITE officer. If a black cop shoots a black perpetrator it's assumed to be justified but if a white policeman is involved, it's headline news. If you run away when a cop pulls you over or punch him or grab for his gun, he is justified using force and most likely you are involved in a criminal activity. Contrary to liberal news, most black cops are not strolling the streets looking for black teens to beat up. They are there to protect the LAW ABIDING working class citizens that live in those neighborhoods. Though for the life of me, I can't figure out why any young white man or woman would want to be a police officer. They risk the lives every day yet are condemned, spit upon, hurled bricks at and seem to be more hated than the thugs who burn down senior citizen homes and neighborhood drug stores.

Why are you discussing police shootings in this thread about Baltimore? Freddie Grey wasn't shot. This is NOT an incident of police involved shooting. There are clearly some similarities between riots in Ferguson and riots in Baltimore, but the triggering incidents were totally different, and the leadership in the two cities are totally different. The mayor of Baltimore, Chief of Police of Baltimore, commanding officer of the MD National Guard, and over half the police force of BPD are Black. So no. This isn't a case of something being news when it involves a white people in a position of power shooting a black man.

If you're actually interested, this is a good perspective about how what's going on in Baltimore isn't just driven by race: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...here-for-30-years/?postshare=6181430235747442

"Baltimore is not Ferguson and its primary problems are not racial. The mayor, city council president, police chief, top prosecutor, and many other city leaders are black, as is half of Baltimore’s 3,000-person police force. The city has many prominent black churches and a line of black civic leadership extending back to Frederick Douglass.
Yet, the gaping disparities separating the haves and the have nots in Baltimore are as large as they are anywhere. And, as the boys on the street will tell you, black cops can be hell on them, too."

 

[Heidict]

Wow, drama much? The page and picture I linked and referred to shows NO decapitated heads! And if you were so worried about others seeing it why did you copy my link in your reply?

Drama? Not wanting to see decapitated heads while I enjoy my lunch is drama? Stupid me for following a link on a FAMILY board and expecting it to be safe. You might want to actually look at what you are posting instead of jumping on people. Drama much? It's the 3rd picture down.

 

[TAX GUY]

This site never ceases to amaze me. I've been gone only a short couple of months but its like I never left. Who needs day time TV when you can just come here and read the comments.

 

[Goofy'slady]

Only the ones involving a WHITE officer. If a black cop shoots a black perpetrator it's assumed to be justified but if a white policeman is involved, it's headline news. If you run away when a cop pulls you over or punch him or grab for his gun, he is justified using force and most likely you are involved in a criminal activity. Contrary to liberal news, most black cops are not strolling the streets looking for black teens to beat up. They are there to protect the LAW ABIDING working class citizens that live in those neighborhoods. Though for the life of me, I can't figure out why any young white man or woman would want to be a police officer. They risk the lives every day yet are condemned, spit upon, hurled bricks at and seem to be more hated than the thugs who burn down senior citizen homes and neighborhood drug stores.

The vast majority of people living in lower income areas know that the police (white or black) are there for the protection of its citizens. However, over the years there have been a lot of abuse of power by the police and it makes them harder to trust. Trust me they treat black cops the same as white cops. Especially, in light of recent events because they feel as though they are only standing up for other cops who they feel are in the wrong. This sometimes has little or nothing to do with race and simply a matter of police thinking they themselves are above the law and making up things to suit them as the go.

Wrong is wrong and those who commit crimes need to be off the streets and punished and the neighborhoods would be safer for that. However, I have been in some down right shady prodominately white areas where the cops get no love as well and that will never make the news either. Issues get swep under the carpet so that it's preceved that the issues only lie with non white communities. This type of ruthless policing is what causes many of these situations and as soon as THAT is addressed we'll finally get down to the real meat of the issue. The police are here to protect and serve EVERYONE regardless but as soon as something goes wrong it's assumed that since they wear a uniform and carry a badge then they're in the clear and shouldn't uphold the same laws that we are.

Again - this sort of incident gets easily turned into a white/black issue when it's a black person vs. a white officer and the main contributers to that turning is who we rely on to deliver us the story. This should be a policy/police procedure issues above all. If things within our police departments changed instead of them covering for themselves then we would see a drop in incidents like this. Will they go away completely, no because you will always have low lives to ruin or smear the goodness or good intentions of others. And finally, we are just as responsible with all this finger pointing and arm chair judgements when all most of us are is regular onlookers.

For the most part I believe this discussion or thread hasn't been closed because most people are simply expressing themselves and doing a fairly decent job at being mindful and respectful of each other. Let's keep it that way.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

Only the ones involving a WHITE officer. If a black cop shoots a black perpetrator it's assumed to be justified but if a white policeman is involved, it's headline news. If you run away when a cop pulls you over or punch him or grab for his gun, he is justified using force and most likely you are involved in a criminal activity. Contrary to liberal news, most black cops are not strolling the streets looking for black teens to beat up. They are there to protect the LAW ABIDING working class citizens that live in those neighborhoods. Though for the life of me, I can't figure out why any young white man or woman would want to be a police officer. They risk the lives every day yet are condemned, spit upon, hurled bricks at and seem to be more hated than the thugs who burn down senior citizen homes and neighborhood drug stores.

So you change the premise of your argument once I provide evidence to the contrary? Okay, that's not going to make for a productive conversation. Nor will I take the bait and make this about race. The situation in Baltimore right now is a reaction to ongoing, systemic police brutality. It is police vs. impoverished community, not black vs. white. In my neighborhood, among my friends, on my Facebook newsfeed, and on my local news that is how it's being discussed. Only here am I seeing it being turned into a race issue.

 

[Octoberbride03]

Most, if not all of those "armed citizens" we're members of groups that do not recognize the authority of the federal government.

Do you not believe in the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution? They were exercising their right right bear arms and it was very much needed at that point! Govt. failed them they were on their own.

 

[Goofy'slady]

So you change the premise of your argument once I provide evidence to the contrary? Okay, that's not going to make for a productive conversation. Nor will I take the bait and make this about race. The situation in Baltimore right now is a reaction to ongoing, systemic police brutality. It is police vs. impoverished community, not black vs. white. In my neighborhood, among my friends, on my Facebook newsfeed, and on my local news that is how it's being discussed. Only here am I seeing it being turned into a race issue.

Nail meet hammer cuz you just drove that home.

 

[cabanafrau]

So you change the premise of your argument once I provide evidence to the contrary? Okay, that's not going to make for a productive conversation. Nor will I take the bait and make this about race. The situation in Baltimore right now is a reaction to ongoing, systemic police brutality. It is police vs. impoverished community, not black vs. white. In my neighborhood, among my friends, on my Facebook newsfeed, and on my local news that is how it's being discussed. Only here am I seeing it being turned into a race issue.

If this wasn't considered a racial issue anywhere but here I can assure you that Nation of Islam and Al Sharpton wouldn't be getting involved. To suggest otherwise is patently ridiculous.

It shouldn't be a racial issue. It's of concern to everyone in a free and civilized society when the cops (civilians on patrol) act in ways that do not protect the people they serve. Tolerating inappropriate behavior of armed forces we have empowered to uphold our laws leaves everyone ultimately vulnerable.

Black lives matter is a disgusting notion that not only won't help the situation, it's no doubt fanned the sparks in Baltimore into the flames in Baltimore. Everybody needs to get their heads on straight, realize that people matter, and work towards making sure our police are protecting and serving us and removing the ones who fail to do so AND get all segments of our society to work with police we can trust and give true witness and/or assistance when we see or hear crimes being committed. The infamous mother in Baltimore is a great example of society stepping up to shoulder its piece of the burden. I wonder how different things would have been yesterday if even a dozen more moms had joined her? Seeing her fierceness and courage I'm stunned her son had the audacity to attempt to ignore her instructions. Her knucklehead just might have a future in spite of himself if his mother has any say in the matter. Lucky boy.

 

[Goofy'slady]

If this wasn't considered a racial issue anywhere but here I can assure you that Nation of Islam and Al Sharpton wouldn't be getting involved. To suggest otherwise is patently ridiculous.

It shouldn't be a racial issue. It's of concern to everyone in a free and civilized society when the cops (civilians on patrol) act in ways that do not protect the people they serve. Tolerating inappropriate behavior of armed forces we have empowered to uphold our laws leaves everyone ultimately vulnerable.

Black lives matter is a disgusting notion that not only won't help the situation, it's no doubt fanned the sparks in Baltimore into the flames in Baltimore. Everybody needs to get their heads on straight, realize that people matter, and work towards making sure our police are protecting and serving us and removing the ones who fail to do so AND get all segments of our society to work with police we can trust and give true witness and/or assistance when we see or hear crimes being committed. The infamous mother in Baltimore is a great example of society stepping up to shoulder its piece of the burden. I wonder how different things would have been yesterday if even a dozen more moms had joined her? Seeing her fierceness and courage I'm stunned her son had the audacity to attempt to ignore her instructions. Her knucklehead just might have a future in spite of himself if his mother has any say in the matter. Lucky boy.

That mum was caught on video, is all. Trust me there are more mums at home whippin butt and dishin out discipline than the media will allow you to see. There are many more mothers AND fathers who are doing the same behind closed doors.

 

[cabanafrau]

That mum was caught on video, is all. Trust me there are more mums at home whippin butt and dishin out discipline than the media will allow you to see. There are many more mothers AND fathers who are doing the same behind closed doors.

I'm well aware that's true. I am curious how you think the media could or should have access to all those living rooms and kitchens to "allow me to see it"? While I'm normally one to point out how lax our media has gotten and how lazy and constructed the coverage is, I think suggesting the media is somehow hiding that piece of the narrative is a bit beyond the pale.

Still, it would have been very helpful as this whole mess started to spiral out of control if there were quite a few of those moms out there, visual reminder and deterrent to all the rest of the knuckleheads out there. I know plenty of moms who would have stormed down there, grabbed their kid and chewed out any of their kid's friends they saw and warned them they better get their butts back home pronto. Like I said even a dozen moms on the scene might have made a huge difference. I'm sure the actions of the clergy who courageously made efforts to calm things down helped avoid more carnage.

 

[aaarcher86]

If the moderators have a problem with it they can delete it. You are the one bringing attention to it.

Is it really so hard to just add a disclaimer for the benefit of other people? No one will see the comments until after seeing the photos.

 

[Goofy'slady]

I'm well aware that's true. I am curious how you think the media could or should have access to all those living rooms and kitchens to "allow me to see it"? While I'm normally one to point out how lax our media has gotten and how lazy and constructed the coverage is, I think suggesting the media is somehow hiding that piece of the narrative is a bit beyond the pale.

Still, it would have been very helpful as this whole mess started to spiral out of control if there were quite a few of those moms out there, visual reminder and deterrent to all the rest of the knuckleheads out there. I know plenty of moms who would have stormed down there, grabbed their kid and chewed out any of their kid's friends they saw and warned them they better get their butts back home pronto. Like I said even a dozen moms on the scene might have made a huge difference. I'm sure the actions of the clergy who courageously made efforts to calm things down helped avoid more carnage.

Point taken. I didn't mean to suggest it is the media's job to be in the homes of everyone to allow such a thing. However, I do believe at your level of intelligence you understood what I was driving at but you wanted to point out my flaw or over sight in my explanation. Thank you!

Carry on now!

 

[TipsyTraveler]

If this wasn't considered a racial issue anywhere but here I can assure you that Nation of Islam and Al Sharpton wouldn't be getting involved. To suggest otherwise is patently ridiculous.

It shouldn't be a racial issue. It's of concern to everyone in a free and civilized society when the cops (civilians on patrol) act in ways that do not protect the people they serve. Tolerating inappropriate behavior of armed forces we have empowered to uphold our laws leaves everyone ultimately vulnerable.

Black lives matter is a disgusting notion that not only won't help the situation, it's no doubt fanned the sparks in Baltimore into the flames in Baltimore. Everybody needs to get their heads on straight, realize that people matter, and work towards making sure our police are protecting and serving us and removing the ones who fail to do so AND get all segments of our society to work with police we can trust and give true witness and/or assistance when we see or hear crimes being committed. The infamous mother in Baltimore is a great example of society stepping up to shoulder its piece of the burden. I wonder how different things would have been yesterday if even a dozen more moms had joined her? Seeing her fierceness and courage I'm stunned her son had the audacity to attempt to ignore her instructions. Her knucklehead just might have a future in spite of himself if his mother has any say in the matter. Lucky boy.

"Patently ridiculous" would be to operate under the assumption that the only issues that affect predominantly black communities are racial in nature. The NOI has members living in those neighborhoods. Al Sharpton is an activist for civil rights. Police brutality is a civil rights issue and, in this case, it is affecting the people NOI and Sharpton represent. That is why they've involved themselves. Again, the only place I've seen a racial spin put on it is here.

 

[JanaDee]

So you change the premise of your argument once I provide evidence to the contrary? Okay, that's not going to make for a productive conversation. Nor will I take the bait and make this about race. The situation in Baltimore right now is a reaction to ongoing, systemic police brutality. It is police vs. impoverished community, not black vs. white. In my neighborhood, among my friends, on my Facebook newsfeed, and on my local news that is how it's being discussed. Only here am I seeing it being turned into a race issue.

To say it is not a race issue is ridiculous.

 

[JanaDee]

If this wasn't considered a racial issue anywhere but here I can assure you that Nation of Islam and Al Sharpton wouldn't be getting involved. To suggest otherwise is patently ridiculous.

It shouldn't be a racial issue. It's of concern to everyone in a free and civilized society when the cops (civilians on patrol) act in ways that do not protect the people they serve. Tolerating inappropriate behavior of armed forces we have empowered to uphold our laws leaves everyone ultimately vulnerable.

Black lives matter is a disgusting notion that not only won't help the situation, it's no doubt fanned the sparks in Baltimore into the flames in Baltimore. Everybody needs to get their heads on straight, realize that people matter, and work towards making sure our police are protecting and serving us and removing the ones who fail to do so AND get all segments of our society to work with police we can trust and give true witness and/or assistance when we see or hear crimes being committed. The infamous mother in Baltimore is a great example of society stepping up to shoulder its piece of the burden. I wonder how different things would have been yesterday if even a dozen more moms had joined her? Seeing her fierceness and courage I'm stunned her son had the audacity to attempt to ignore her instructions. Her knucklehead just might have a future in spite of himself if his mother has any say in the matter. Lucky boy.

I agree with you to a point, but your post ignores an ever-growing attitude of defiance against police and the willingness of some to deliberately injure or kill police. Not only is that behavior and attitude tolerated, it is encouraged by some. That needs to stop.

 

[abk96]

systemic police brutality. .

Really? And do you really think it's "police vs. impoverished community"?

The police don't leave their families to go to work everyday just so they can gang up on the impoverished. They are doing their job trying to protect the citizens from drug dealers, murderers, etc. Its the most "Monday morning quarterbacked" job around.