What is MAX capacity #'s for each park?

[andrews_dad]

I seem to recall an old Birnbaum guide (probably 1988) stating that the MK had record attendance on July 4th of some year at 92,000. That was probably pre-Toontown, so you might be able to pack a few more bodies into the MK, but I'd take 90,000 or so as the peak capacity for the MK.

Epcot is larger, so you can certainly pack more people inside, I'd wager 110,000 or so as the peak capacity for Epcot.

Thanks for this info. Just the sort of information and educated guesses I'm looking for. Just one of those things that I have wondered about for a while.

 

[kapoof]

last palm sunday we were at the mk and i can't believe how packed it was! the line for peter pan was all the way down across the haunted mansion. it was so crowded we had to leave, it wasn't even fun being there. also i should add the park wasn't even closed, not at capacity even then, i can't imagine what at capacity is like.

 

[srwarden1928]

Last Palm Sunday we were at AK. We didnt wait in long lines for anything. The only thing we HAD to fastpass was Safari. Eating lunch almost brought the time around. It was a very pleasant day, and not crowded. The above post and mine illustrate why it is important to follow the RECOMMENDED parks. I used touringplans recommendations.

 

[andrews_dad]

last palm sunday we were at the mk and i can't believe how packed it was! the line for peter pan was all the way down across the haunted mansion. it was so crowded we had to leave, it wasn't even fun being there. also i should add the park wasn't even closed, not at capacity even then, i can't imagine what at capacity is like.

I go to Diz at the holidays in order to hit the college bowl games in Orlando and Tampa, so I've been in parks at capacity many, many times. With the wise use of the FP system, you can still hit the essentials. With the knowledge of the big capacity stuff (such as larger shows), knowing when and where to eat, and knowing how to use the parades to your advantage makes a max capacity day still managable and fun. You'll never hit everything, but if you are smart you can get a fill for the day. Getting around is the most frustrating park for me. I know that I need to dash across the park to get a FP ticket and then come back. I try to hustle, but every nook and cranny is packed with double-wide stollers and slow-walkers that are looking at their maps. At max capacity every road can look like main street at fireworks time. So packed with bodies that you almost have to pick and choose a route to get through.

 

[WDSearcher]

BTW, on a day when 80,000 are in a park, almost all of those would be paid guests of some form. CM have a few black-out dates on their free entries, and holiday times were 80,000 would pack into the MK would likely be blacked out. That is a ton of cash rolling in with one day.

Only if people are spending money IN the park. Those busy days are almost all multi-day and AP tickets, which can mean as little as $3 was spent for admission that day. And if someone has used their AP alot, it paid for itself way before that "full" day. It's all about the "per cap", not necessarily the admission.

 

[andrews_dad]

Only if people are spending money IN the park. Those busy days are almost all multi-day and AP tickets, which can mean as little as $3 was spent for admission that day. And if someone has used their AP alot, it paid for itself way before that "full" day. It's all about the "per cap", not necessarily the admission.

I see your point, but I honestly don't see it that way. The tickets were not free, and they were not $3. That $3 a day stuff is fuzzy numbers IMO. It is a law of diminishing returns in action, and each day's cost is not exclusive of the next in reality. The marketing gurus hve to if you think I spent $75 to visit MK the first day, but only $3 the 10th day. Bottom line is that each of those 80,000-90,000 in MK on New Year's Eve plopped down some nice cash to get through those gates that day as the CM free entry was probably blacked out on that day. My point is that on given day, 1000's of the folks inside the parks on rides are free entries due to be CM or with CM's for free. On this day, CM free entry was blacked out so those folks were not in the MK.

 

[WDSearcher]

I see your point, but I honestly don't see it that way. The tickets were not free, and they were not $3. That $3 a day stuff is fuzzy numbers IMO. It is a law of diminishing returns in action, and each day's cost is not exclusive of the next in reality. The marketing gurus hve to if you think I spent $75 to visit MK the first day, but only $3 the 10th day. Bottom line is that each of those 80,000-90,000 in MK on New Year's Eve plopped down some nice cash to get through those gates that day as the CM free entry was probably blacked out on that day. My point is that on given day, 1000's of the folks inside the parks on rides are free entries due to be CM or with CM's for free. On this day, CM free entry was blacked out so those folks were not in the MK.

It may seem like a marketing "hook", but if someone is using the tenth day on their 10-day pass to get into the parks on NYE, then they have still not paid "full price" for their admission, even if you spread the ten days out evenly. It currently costs $79.88 for a one-day ticket including tax. A ten-day ticket costs $252.41 including tax. So if I'm getting in on a one-day ticket, then yes ... I'm paying $79.88 for that day. If I'm getting in on a ten-day ticket, then I'm paying at most $25.24 for that day. If I have an AP ($499.51) and I've been to the parks twice a month for the past 11 months, that's 22 admissions. Which means my current day is worth a bit over $21 at the gate. If I've gone every weekend for six months, then it's worth around $10 at the gate. Point being that most people are NOT paying "rack rate" at the gate. They're paying far less than the $79.88 they'd pay if NYE was the only day they were coming and they bought a one-day ticket for that day. The big money at Disney is not made in ticket sales -- even DISNEY will tell you that. It's made in food, merchandise, resorts and "experiences." If you just look at what they take in at the gate, there's not much profit to be made after you've paid your expenses.

As for CMs ... they cannot use their sign-in priviledges on days like Christmas and NYE, but they do have hard-ticket comps that they can give to friends and family, and a lot of CMs save their tickets throughout the year to use during black-out days. So there are still a fair number of comps walking through the gate, even when sign-ins are blacked out.

Plus ... even when it's blacked-out for sign-ins, CMs can get themselves in with their IDs. There are only a handful of dates (Christmas Day, J4, NYE) where a CM's ID cannot get them in.

 

[CaptHomer]

I don't want to be anywhere near there if the level is even close to any of those numbers.

 

[nicki.momof3]

We are going the week of Easter - I have read so many conflicting reports that it is busier than x-mas. I really hope that it is not at max cap. all week - I will never make it with 3 litttle kids and as a teacher I have no other choice but than to travel during peak season.

Wish me luck

 

[JohnnyB2]

When we did the KTTK tour, we tried to get that info from our guide,but he was not able to release that info to us.Or maybe he didn't know

 

[fireflymedic]

Thanks for the guesses and educated estimates, all. I started this thread looking to satisfy a curiosity. My good buddy has been a CM for 15+ years and is in mid-level management, and he had no idea. Thought I'd throw out the question here to see if there was any leaks or solid rumors.

If all you wanted was a very rough guesstement I have the Fla. Code book (NFPA 101) and it states take the sqare footage and devide by 7 to get the occupant load of a "concentrated use, without fixed seating"

I think that would get you pretty close to the max

(I do understand you can pt one person in every seat, 1 person for every 18 incehes of bench type seating but think the above may be easer to get that info)

now the question is what is the sqaure footage of "public area" of the parks