What is going on with June hours?!

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I'm arriving July 2 and am a little frustrated that AK hours have been extended up until that point but starting July 3 go back to a 5pm close. It's obvious they'll extend the hours, but I just want to book my nighttime FP+ and can't yet. I also can't believe that MK will actually close at 10pm. I'm positive they will extend June - August hours through closing at least at midnight, just to keep the crowd control down to be as much of a non-issue as possible. Cutting off 2-3 hours from historic summer operation hours will effect crowds in the park. They won't increase the amount of FP+ offered for the headliners, but there were still be high crowds. Which means that you will get all the people who could've gotten FP+ from 10pm-midnight for the popular attractions waiting standby instead and increasing wait times all day long. This causes people to move from attraction to attraction more slowly, having more people trying to get in queues right up until the last operating minute. With FP+ taking up most of the ride occupancy at any given time and if the rides are still only operating at half-capacity during a peak time of the year where a lot of people show up at sunset because of the heat...

People won't be getting out of the park until midnight anyway, since as long as you're in line by closing time you'll be allowed to ride.

It's going to be an interesting summer at the world regardless, that's for sure.
 
It's not like the park is going to be closed. It's just not going to be open 15+ hours in one day (maybe.)

The problem is that this is apparently outrageous to some.

Look, the only thing for me to do at 1am around me is to go to a bar or the grocery store. Six flags sure isn't open then. I just don't think it's something that should be expected, regardless of the history.

I'm sure hours will end up getting extended and all of this is for nothing but we all need to get real - if 13 hours a day is not enough time for you, then the response is to prioritize what you want to do, like you would need to do if you went literally anywhere else. If you have to give up that sixth ride on SDMT I think your vacation will probably still be brilliant. It's just not worth stressing over at all.

As an aside I have to wonder how grumpy people who spend from 8am to 12 midnight in an amusement park must be after a week of that. It sounds exhausting.
Point taken. Of course, most people aren't in the park from 8 am - midnight. The longer hours are used to help people avoid the most crowded times and/or the worst of the weather. For the most part, the 8 am folks are not the same people as the 10pm-2am folks. As @Oswin spells out, lack of later hours not only causes travelers to re-think their plans (not impossible, not "ruined", but more work) it also means that if the hours don't change significantly, the entire day in the park is greatly affected. It's not so crazy to think someone might come to a WDW fan/planning site and vent a bit about it!
 
Point taken. Of course, most people aren't in the park from 8 am - midnight. The longer hours are used to help people avoid the most crowded times and/or the worst of the weather. For the most part, the 8 am folks are not the same people as the 10pm-2am folks. As @Oswin spells out, lack of later hours not only causes travelers to re-think their plans (not impossible, not "ruined", but more work) it also means that if the hours don't change significantly, the entire day in the park is greatly affected. It's not so crazy to think someone might come to a WDW fan/planning site and vent a bit about it!
:thumbsup2 I agree ! We can vent if we want to :rotfl:.
 

I certainly don't feel "entitled" for Disney to open late hours. However, I am disappointed too, that MK is showing that it will close at 10pm on the nights we plan to go (early June, a Sunday and a Saturday!). We have only been to WDW once, 5 years ago. It costs us an arm and a leg just for airfare from Hawaii to Florida. On top of that, the cost for a Disney package, well...you get the picture...it's definitely NOT cheap. Our upcoming trip has been planned for over a year. It's not something that we'll decide "not to go", just because MK hours are not extended. We would love to make the most of our trip, because who knows when we will be able to go to WDW again? The other thing is, it's frustrating trying to plan out our days, if we don't know exactly what the hours will be. Hopefully the June hours will be posted soon. I'll have to keep watching. And even if Disney decides they won't extend MK hours, we still will have a wonderful time!
 
We will be there June 3-12. It is very frustrating that WDW expects us to make our plans early (12 mths for my DVC room to get the resort I want; 180 days early for popular meals) yet can't seem to post exact hours until a few weeks before? If at all? Closing at 10pm in summer is unacceptable. This trip has been the most difficult one I've ever planned to WDW. Will it be the end of the world if the hours stand as is and don't change? No, of course not, but it will be disappointing. And I'm getting a little tired of being disappointed by Disney lately.
 
Wow, I genuinely didn't think my thread would bring out of the woodwork those nasty people who like to merely to complain about those of us who are concerned about the summer operating hours.

My view is this - if Disney wants me to book my ADRs at 180 days out and FP+ at 60 days out then they should darn well have the park hours firmed up by then.

It makes me laugh that some people in this thread:
  • seem to think Disney extending the hours is Disney doing us a "favor" - they won't extend the hours if it isn't profitable; they don't keep MK open later than 10pm as a gesture of goodwill, they do it because guests spend $$$ in the park that justifies keeping it open;
  • are arguing we should "be grateful" to have 13 hours as that "is enough" - LOL - we don't literally spend 13 hours in the park; it's about having flexibility to have some pool/outside park time during the day and to visit the park in the cooler evening hours;
  • argue that "no other theme park" stays open until 10 or has "fireworks everynight" - erm, hello? Disney advertise the night entertainment and it's fully priced into the admission ticket pricing. Again, it's nothing "to be grateful for" - Disney isn't "doing us a favor" here.
  • have said that people should be "arrested" for taking their time in leaving the park. Geez, take a chill pill - first, to me it came across as a JOKE and second you really need to get a grip; there are more important things for you to be worrying about in the world.
 
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We will be there June 3-12. It is very frustrating that WDW expects us to make our plans early (12 mths for my DVC room to get the resort I want; 180 days early for popular meals) yet can't seem to post exact hours until a few weeks before? If at all? Closing at 10pm in summer is unacceptable. This trip has been the most difficult one I've ever planned to WDW. Will it be the end of the world if the hours stand as is and don't change? No, of course not, but it will be disappointing. And I'm getting a little tired of being disappointed by Disney lately.

Here's the thing: Disney doesn't require ANY of those things. Nowhere in park admission or your dining reservation are you required to make them that far in advance (I'm not DVC, so I don't know how those reservations work). Disney ALLOWS guests to make reservations in advance; it's the other guests who necessitate the early reservations. As much as that stuff seems like Disney's fault, it's really the other visitors who insist on making plans the moment they are available that makes that important.

In other words, the fault for those things lies not with the Mouse, but with us.
 
Wow, I genuinely didn't think my thread would bring out of the woodwork those nasty people who like to merely to complain about those of us who are concerned about the summer operating hours.

My view is this - if Disney wants me to book my ADRs at 180 days out and FP+ at 60 days out then they should darn well have the park hours firmed up by then.

It makes me laugh that some people:
  • seem to think Disney extending the hours is Disney doing us a "favor" - they won't extend the hours if it isn't profitable; they don't keep MK open later than 10pm as a gesture of goodwill, they do it because guests spend $$$ in the park that justifies keeping it open;
  • are arguing we should "be grateful" to have 13 hours as that "is enough" - LOL - we don't literally spend 13 hours in the park; it's about having flexibility to have some pool/outside park time during the day and to visit the park in the cooler evening hours;
  • argue that "no other theme park" stays open until 10 or has "fireworks everynight" - erm, hello? Disney advertise this and it's priced into the admission tickets. Again, it's nothing "to be grateful for" - Disney isn't "doing us a favor" here.

Not saying it's necessarily the case here, but it would not surprise me if Disney has 'dedicated' posters on these boards to defend the company in controversial positions. It would help explain some of the bizarre 'Disney can do no wrong' opinions that are expressed here.
 
We will be there June 3-12. It is very frustrating that WDW expects us to make our plans early (12 mths for my DVC room to get the resort I want; 180 days early for popular meals) yet can't seem to post exact hours until a few weeks before? If at all? Closing at 10pm in summer is unacceptable. This trip has been the most difficult one I've ever planned to WDW. Will it be the end of the world if the hours stand as is and don't change? No, of course not, but it will be disappointing. And I'm getting a little tired of being disappointed by Disney lately.

So, I'm honestly curious because I haven't looked it up... Are there any restaurants in MK for which you can make ADRs that are open past 10:00 for a reservation? I don think that there are. (But, again, I admittedly did not check.). My point is, you aren't making an 11:30 pm dinner reservation at MK 180 days out because they aren't ever available. Is it a guarantee that MK will be open past 10:00? No. But the likelihood is that it will be. Earlier this year the "sky was falling because they hadn't extended their Spring Break hours and Disney is ripping us off and they are charging way more for less and the bathrooms are dirty and there is a paint chip on Dumbo and I can't believe how awful it is now and I'm never ever ever coming back after this next trip. ". And they they extended the hours. Turns out, the sky wasn't falling. What has Disney done that has disappointed you so much?
 
While watching for a change in hours I noticed that they changed an emh from one park to another. It actually makes my original plan better.


As for the current topic - I would be less stressed to have firm plans. But I do expect MK to change to midnight, even if nothing else changes. And that would be good as I had planned a trip to the hotel for late afternoon.
 
STILL no update to the June hours? Will MK seriously be closing at 10pm every night?

I can't believe we are approaching mid-May with no updates on this.

I've been wondering the same thing and have been checking back regularly looking for updated hours. During our trip in June 2011 MK was open late, until midnight every night with one EMH night going till 3am. Certainly there will later hours coming. 10pm seems too early to close during the summer season. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
 
Here's the thing: Disney doesn't require ANY of those things. Nowhere in park admission or your dining reservation are you required to make them that far in advance (I'm not DVC, so I don't know how those reservations work). Disney ALLOWS guests to make reservations in advance; it's the other guests who necessitate the early reservations. As much as that stuff seems like Disney's fault, it's really the other visitors who insist on making plans the moment they are available that makes that important.

In other words, the fault for those things lies not with the Mouse, but with us.
Maybe disney should wait to allow guests to create reservations until they themselves know the hours the parks will be open. Might solve this problem at least. Might make planning less stressful.
 
Here's the thing: Disney doesn't require ANY of those things. Nowhere in park admission or your dining reservation are you required to make them that far in advance (I'm not DVC, so I don't know how those reservations work). Disney ALLOWS guests to make reservations in advance; it's the other guests who necessitate the early reservations. As much as that stuff seems like Disney's fault, it's really the other visitors who insist on making plans the moment they are available that makes that important.

In other words, the fault for those things lies not with the Mouse, but with us.
Exactly.

Disney doesn't tell anyone to make their ADR's as early as possible. Or that they have to book their FastPass+ at exactly 60 days.

Other visitors make that call for everyone else.

Disney simply stops those people from making those reservations any earlier than that.
 
Maybe disney should wait to allow guests to create reservations until they themselves know the hours the parks will be open. Might solve this problem at least. Might make planning less stressful.
Are you kidding?

Imagine how these boards would light up if people couldn't make their plans until a couple of weeks before going.
 
I wonder if they plan to add the after hours pay party those days?
This is what I was wondering with the current posted hours only until 10:00. DAH is in currently in test mode and if the Disney brass decide to extend it into Thursday nights in June and possibly beyond, then they don't need to reduce any hours but simply add on for the DAH paying customers. They could also then extend hours for all of the other nights (non-Thursdays) if they wish. In this scenario they won't be "taking" away anything, rather adding on to currently posted hours. Can you imagine the backlash if this was done in reverse and the hours were currently posted until midnight, then they decided to reduce them to add DAH? Much worse then the disappointment about the current 10:00pm posted hours I would imagine.
 
maybe since AK is going to be open till 11pm in June they need the buses
I think them closing at 10 is discouraging if you like to use a park hopper and finish the day at MK
 
Are you kidding?

Imagine how these boards would light up if people couldn't make their plans until a couple of weeks before going.
Like what's happening now? Cause every day I see more threads asking about hours. I think all people want is some consistent information released by disney in a time frame that fits with how they want people to plan their adr's, fastpasses, special events, etc...
 
Wow, I genuinely didn't think my thread would bring out of the woodwork those nasty people who like to merely to complain about those of us who are concerned about the summer operating hours.

My view is this - if Disney wants me to book my ADRs at 180 days out and FP+ at 60 days out then they should darn well have the park hours firmed up by then.

It makes me laugh that some people in this thread:
  • seem to think Disney extending the hours is Disney doing us a "favor" - they won't extend the hours if it isn't profitable; they don't keep MK open later than 10pm as a gesture of goodwill, they do it because guests spend $$$ in the park that justifies keeping it open;
  • are arguing we should "be grateful" to have 13 hours as that "is enough" - LOL - we don't literally spend 13 hours in the park; it's about having flexibility to have some pool/outside park time during the day and to visit the park in the cooler evening hours;
  • argue that "no other theme park" stays open until 10 or has "fireworks everynight" - erm, hello? Disney advertise the night entertainment and it's fully priced into the admission ticket pricing. Again, it's nothing "to be grateful for" - Disney isn't "doing us a favor" here.
  • have said that people should be "arrested" for taking their time in leaving the park. Geez, take a chill pill - first, to me it came across as a JOKE and second you really need to get real.

it makes me laugh how some people in this thread feel as though they have the right -- no the obligation -- to assign malicious intent to a business who is trying to maximize its profit. I think that's funny, because at the same time people chastise Disney, the reason they chastise Disney is because Disney is making it impossible for them to get what they consider the most for their money. They are allowed to demand (or condemn) a company for making financial decisions, and their reasons for criticizing are often cited as their own financial circumstances. People demand from Disney above and beyond what they get ANYWHERE else, and them condemn them for not doing enough. You're very right -- the whole thing is laughable.

But to address your specific points:
No one uses the word grateful. What people say is if you don't like it, don't go. If you don't see value, don't go. It's easy. Don't go to Disney. And if you've decided not to go to Disney, there's no real reason to be posting here about how much Disney sucks.

People want flexibility in their resort planning. But flexibility isn't enough-- you want WDW to increase its labor costs by 15-20 percent so you can go back and have a dip in the pool without missing anything. I think it's a fine plan, but you know what? Beaches get closed after dark. Ski slopes close at 5. And most amusement parks close at sundown or shortly thereafter. The Promised Land of Universal closes at 7 during the week. Resort kitchens and food courts have operating hours. So does WDW. And they are being upfront about them. Like I said, they don't reduce the hours, all they do is expand them, so if you're planning, plan around the posted hours. It's easy. 9-10. There you go. Plan according to that -- they spell it out. But that doesn't seem to be enough.

A Disney ticket is expensive -- except, when you're trying to defend DAH, in which case the DAH ticket is too expensive because a 5-day hopper breaks down to $42 or so a day. There is no level of satisfaction for those who want to condemn the place -- every decision Disney makes is mean spirited and motivated only by how much money they can take from you. Early reviews on the new desert party are good; but it's insulted because it's not enough, or because people don't want to pay. The folks who do the EMM seem to find it very worthwhile, but the rest say it's silly to spend that on three rides and breakfast. Meanwhile they're mad because their plan to spend $10 on a BOG breakfast and get a head start on those same rides (or those coveted pictures of empty Main Street) have now been thwarted. And it's painted as Disney being the ones who are doing wrong.

People want MORE. That's all this is about. Not fairness, not economics, not betrayal, not money grubbing. This is simply people complaining because they can't have MORE. And those perpetual tantrums get a little tiring.
 
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