What has got more and more annoying as you have got older?

[kdonnel]

The intolerance I see in my peers. Intolerance towards people younger than them, people who have a different moral base line, people who parent different than they did, etc.

It seems as you get older and closer to death the majority get angry and upset.

 

[PollyannaMom]

Quick question and a little OT, but I'm curious and I don't really know anybody right now with kids in elementary school:
Based on your comments on how much the iPad is used in learning, are elementary kids today doing much handwriting, either printing or cursive? ...Is handwriting in general something kids are still taught?

Even when my DS (now21) was in grade school, they "learned" cursive in 3rd grade, used it in 4th, and pretty much forgot about it after that.

I do think they're missing out on something. Writing in cursive exercises different parts of the brain that typing does, and I wonder if we really should have let it go.

But at the same time I understand that kids today live in a different world and need different skills. It's a very tough call.

I remember, a million years ago, when the same discussions were had about kids and TV time.

Yes, and I think TV probably did contribute to differences between kids who grew up before it and kids who grew up with it - for good and bad.

But I don't know how we could have stopped it, or even if we should have tried. Kids grow up in the world they grow up in, adapt as best they can.

 

[goofyernmost]

At my age, absolutely everything annoys me no end.

 

[Jennasis]

Everything.

 

[Mousemom234]

What has got more and more annoying as you have got older?

Getting old...

 

[mrodgers]

Social activities that last past 9:00pm

9 pm doesn't even work for me any more. My Friday night consisted of falling asleep on the couch at around 8 this weekend.

 

[goofyernmost]

9 pm doesn't even work for me any more. My Friday night consisted of falling asleep on the couch at around 8 this weekend.

That hasn't happened to me but physically I seem to be in some pain constantly, My back, my legs, my arms, my hands and it is hard to walk. The worse part is that family that I tell about it tell me to stop acting like you are old. Like I have any freaking choice in the matter. I get so frustrated that I can't do simple things without pain or feeling feeble and useless. Yes, I am angry. I don't understand why we have to waste away like this. I am grateful that my mind still seems to be working OK, but that only makes me more aware of what I can't do anymore. I resist the urge to tell people that they will learn as time goes by and not be so quick to judge others and just say, well get more exercise and stop whining about it. I'm 73 years old and am constantly being told that is not old, bull crap, one can get older but the likelihood of that gets slimmer with each passing day. I'm just tired not sleepy.

 

[PollyannaMom]

@goofyernmost

 

[goofyernmost]

@goofyernmost

Thank you!

 

[BroadwayHermione5]

That hasn't happened to me but physically I seem to be in some pain constantly, My back, my legs, my arms, my hands and it is hard to walk. The worse part is that family that I tell about it tell me to stop acting like you are old. Like I have any freaking choice in the matter. I get so frustrated that I can't do simple things without pain or feeling feeble and useless. Yes, I am angry. I don't understand why we have to waste away like this. I am grateful that my mind still seems to be working OK, but that only makes me more aware of what I can't do anymore. I resist the urge to tell people that they will learn as time goes by and not be so quick to judge others and just say, well get more exercise and stop whining about it. I'm 73 years old and am constantly being told that is not old, bull crap, one can get older but the likelihood of that gets slimmer with each passing day. I'm just tired not sleepy.

Ok so I highly suggest you talk to your doctor about a vitamin deficiency. You sound a lot like me, and I’m a lot younger than you, but after going in with these symptoms they tested me for that and everything else under the sun. Turns out I just needed more vitamin b12.

 

[NannyBeBe]

Quick question and a little OT, but I'm curious and I don't really know anybody right now with kids in elementary school:
Based on your comments on how much the iPad is used in learning, are elementary kids today doing much handwriting, either printing or cursive? Already 10 years ago, when my DS was finishing elementary school, they hadn't had much practice cursive writing and now as an adult, he prints everything. Is handwriting in general something kids are still taught?

My daughter teaches 3rd grade. Cursive is part of the curriculum. She teaches it letter by letter and how to properly connect the letters to make words. Students are then required to do all their writing in cursive. Most kids have no problem with it and it improves their mobility skills. I volunteer in a Kindergarten class and at the beginning of each year we often encounter what we call Floppy Hand Syndrome. These children have never held a crayon or a pencil and have no idea how to grip them. They tell us that they spend their time playing video games. So before we can teach them to write, we have to teach them to grip a pencil. I find it rather sad.

 

[bennifer]

Quick question and a little OT, but I'm curious and I don't really know anybody right now with kids in elementary school:
Based on your comments on how much the iPad is used in learning, are elementary kids today doing much handwriting, either printing or cursive? Already 10 years ago, when my DS was finishing elementary school, they hadn't had much practice cursive writing and now as an adult, he prints everything. Is handwriting in general something kids are still taught?

My younger son is in 6th grade. They started teaching cursive in 4th grade, but then 2020 happened, and online learning for the rest of the year. I asked him last week if he knew cursive and he only remembers how to write his name. Almost all of his learning is done on a school laptop, so he has no need for it. My older son is 27 and he learned cursive in elementary school, but by HS any reports, papers, etc that were graded were online. (School computer labs for the kids who didn't have access to a computer at home)

 

[ronandannette]

My younger son is in 6th grade. They started teaching cursive in 4th grade, but then 2020 happened, and online learning for the rest of the year. I asked him last week if he knew cursive and he only remembers how to write his name. Almost all of his learning is done on a school laptop, so he has no need for it. My older son is 27 and he learned cursive in elementary school, but by HS any reports, papers, etc that were graded were online. (School computer labs for the kids who didn't have access to a computer at home)

My young-adult DS can sign his name in cursive but would really struggle to do more than that. Anything he has to hand-write is printed in block letters and call me a grumpy old bat but I find it woeful.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Ok so I highly suggest you talk to your doctor about a vitamin deficiency. You sound a lot like me, and I’m a lot younger than you, but after going in with these symptoms they tested me for that and everything else under the sun. Turns out I just needed more vitamin b12.

I never would have thought to even check that when I was reading their comment but it's a really good point

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

These children have never held a crayon or a pencil and have no idea how to grip them. They tell us that they spend their time playing video games.

That's quite interesting. Hard to imagine a kid privileged enough to have electronics such that they can play video games and yet having perplexingly not ever played with a crayon especially as old as a 3rd grader when many kids have at least some sort of experience with a crayon (usually a large one when you're young).

Kids work cell phones quite well at age 2 and such so not speaking to that but rather that they wouldn't have the finger abilities to grip a crayon or pencil because they weren't exposed to it especially by the ages you're talking about. Even all the kids I've seen grow up playing with cell phones as a toddler still write their names, still have held pencils and crayons

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

My younger son is in 6th grade. They started teaching cursive in 4th grade, but then 2020 happened, and online learning for the rest of the year. I asked him last week if he knew cursive and he only remembers how to write his name. Almost all of his learning is done on a school laptop, so he has no need for it. My older son is 27 and he learned cursive in elementary school, but by HS any reports, papers, etc that were graded were online. (School computer labs for the kids who didn't have access to a computer at home)

One of the things I noticed that declined the necessity of cursive is that we have the cards and pins and chips now. The electronic signature pads never really left room to sign your name (which signing your name used to mean using cursive to do so otherwise you were printing your name) so a lot of people got used to scribbles to denote your signature. Even when I've signed the back of my credit and debit cards there's hardly enough room. Even the last time I was at the DMV when I got my name changed due to marriage the DMV person commented how I took the time to actually sign my name and in a legible way (as often people make one or two letters recognizable with the rest blurring together lol). These days with the card machines you just enter your pin, tap to pay, or run as credit where majority don't require a signature to complete the transaction.

 

[thanxfornoticin]

Let's just say I'm into my 7th decade now, and I probably haven't used cursive writing for anything but a signature in 40 years. I barely sign any checks anymore because of online banking. I barely sign any credit card slips, because it's not required in most cases. And I just made a purchase that did require a signature this week, and it was a virtual online digital signature. The need for writing is obviously extremely important. I just don't see why the decline in the cursive version of it causes some folks so much heartburn. I can print really well and I can type even better. Many of us no longer have any need for cursive. There are way more important things to worry about in our school systems. Just my opinion!!

 

[PollyannaMom]

...I just don't see why the decline in the cursive version of it causes some folks so much heartburn. I can print really well and I can type even better. Many of us no longer have any need for cursive. There are way more important things to worry about in our school systems. Just my opinion!!

Similar to what I said about the TV question above, it's definitely a balancing act between all the things that are important to learn, with not enough time to choose them all. But there are some benefits.

Here is an article.

I also used to notice (back when I was a substitute teacher) that some kids who had rather messy printing were much better at cursive.

 

[Meriweather]

everything

people, noise, going places, prices.....and on and on

 

[thanxfornoticin]

Similar to what I said about the TV question above, it's definitely a balancing act between all the things that are important to learn, with not enough time to choose them all. But there are some benefits.

Here is an article.

I also used to notice (back when I was a substitute teacher) that some kids who had rather messy printing were much better at cursive.

I can actually see some folks having nicer cursive writing than printing. I know folks like that, too. Fortunately, I can still read it!!