What do you think...right or wrong? Possible debate

[DVCLiz]

There's no wrong-doing here - the OP paid for the room, so she has the right to use it as she sees fit. As I said on that thread, if Disney cared about this they would have something in place to prevent it.

It would be wrong to donate the room to Make a Wish, though, as noble an idea as that is. It would be "cheating the system" if someone paid for the room and let others who weren't on the reservation have use of the room. Room keys are tied to the names on the reservation, and with free dining wouldn't you need those cards as your park tickets as well? So I don't see any way the room could be used by someone else.

As far as money goes, if the OP is paying for that BW room and the Pop room, then that figure must be less than the Pop room plus dining for her family. Simple as that...

 

[Planogirl]

Is it really less costly to rent two rooms than just one and pay for dining? Wow, what a wacky system.

But hey it's her choice to rent two rooms or twenty rooms. I'm just surprised that this works.

 

[jgmklmhem]

Wrong from a "Disney legality" stand point...no definately not. Yes I know they are paying for it so they have the right but I do see it is just a little wrong from the angle that by doing this they are hurting another family that might want to book but the rooms are all taken. Disney is actually losing a little money on the deal just from the stand point that if people are booking 2 rooms and not using one they are not making up the difference that the second family that cannot book might spend on souvenirs, incidentals etc.

 

[SandraVB79]

Disney is actually losing a little money on the deal just from the stand point that if people are booking 2 rooms and not using one they are not making up the difference that the second family that cannot book might spend on souvenirs, incidentals etc.

But that's only the case if all the hotels are completely booked, and familes are turned away. Otherwise, Disney makes extra money, because they sell an extra room...

 

[kimmikayb]

This is a huge arguement with campers at Disney. People would book a campsite, because it's cheapest then stay off site. Get the benefits of staying in the World but not have to pay for an expensive resort room....off property they are getting larger rooms with kitchens, etc.

There are much fewer campsites then resort rooms at Disney. Therefore, campers were being turned away. I don't see that as fair at all. Now, I could be wrong about this but I think Disney took away some of the privlages of the lower costing campsites to try and solve this problem. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

As for paying for a room you don't sleep in? Seems foolish to me and a waste of money but in one posters example I see where it might save you $50 a day. That's not little change.....so if Disney allows it.....go for it. The person who does it made reservations earlier and got the room. I think that system plays out fair enough.

I think if you go up to a mod resort you get a coffee maker in the room and if you visit us in the poolhopping thread you will see we have all kinds of money saving ideas to use that coffee maker with!

 

[KristaTX]

Are their dates the same as yours? PM the person and offer to pay them $40 a night if they'll let you stay in the Pop room. Then you'll both come out okay. But maybe the dining is tied to the room keys??

 

[tkd lisa]

Dining is tied to the room keys.

I thought about this when I saw it posted. I believe they are staying a number of days. So the free dining for a party of 4 is considerably more than the $79 a night they are paying for the Pop Century room. Heck, even for 2 adults, it's a little bit of a savings. The OP said they saved $300.

Frankly, if it was me, I wouldn't do it. I think it's skirting the rules. But I do think it's "legal".

 

[tinaluis]

I don't see the problem. They're paying for both rooms.

 

[SandraVB79]

I know of people who book sometimes two seats a person on a flight, just so they can take twice the amount of luggage with them. It's cheaper that way than heving to pay for excessive luggage. This only works for the low-cost carriers, but well... if it works for them, why not. If they are "smart" enough to come up with a solution that saves them money...


And in this case, you never know DW will send DH to sleep at POP if he snores too much!

 

[phorsenuf]

The only thing that's not mentioned are tickets. If they have tickets already then they are paying about $250 for tickets they don't need. To get the deal you have to buy at least a 1 day base ticket.

I'm mixed on the whole thing. On one hand they are not doing anything wrong but there's a part of me it just doesn't sit well with. but I'm not them so it doesn't matter I guess.

Me personally, I wouldn't do it. Seems a bit like a hassle. You do have to go there and check in and out. I would think you would need to make the room look lived in too which would require visits there. I would think mousekeeping would wonder why the room wasn't used and report that back to the front desk.

And I suppose you could go that whole security thing that if there was ever a fire in the middle of the night and these 4 people were unaccounted for could it put people at risk who are going in looking for them?
That is the argument alot of people have about adding an extra person in the room. Fire personel wouldn't know there were more people than thought and could be missing some in their count.

To me it just seems more of a hassle than it is worth. but whatever. Interesting to consider.

 

[eclectics]

Add me to the list of folks that are as to how this will save money, but if it does, hey, go for it. They are paying for the room. They can use it, or not use it, as they see fit. The only scenario where I might frown on this would be at peak visiting time when the resort was totally booked to the gills. Then yes, in theory, it could be seen as taking a room away from someone else.

 

[cardaway]

And I suppose you could go that whole security thing that if there was ever a fire in the middle of the night and these 4 people were unaccounted for could it put people at risk who are going in looking for them?
That is the argument alot of people have about adding an extra person in the room. Fire personel wouldn't know there were more people than thought and could be missing some in their count.

Shouldn't be an issue. This topic is just one of a very long list of reasons why there could be a room paid for that nobody ever uses. They should know who checked in and who did not.

 

[phorsenuf]

Shouldn't be an issue. This topic is just one of a very long list of reasons why there could be a room paid for that nobody ever uses. They should know who checked in and who did not.

But they do have to check in in order to get the free dining. Everything will be tied to that POP room key. So the records will show there are 4 people staying in room XXX when in reality there isn't.

 

[Missy1961]

The only thing that's not mentioned are tickets. If they have tickets already then they are paying about $250 for tickets they don't need. To get the deal you have to buy at least a 1 day base ticket.

I'm mixed on the whole thing. On one hand they are not doing anything wrong but there's a part of me it just doesn't sit well with. but I'm not them so it doesn't matter I guess.

Me personally, I wouldn't do it. Seems a bit like a hassle. You do have to go there and check in and out. I would think you would need to make the room look lived in too which would require visits there. I would think mousekeeping would wonder why the room wasn't used and report that back to the front desk.

And I suppose you could go that whole security thing that if there was ever a fire in the middle of the night and these 4 people were unaccounted for could it put people at risk who are going in looking for them?
That is the argument alot of people have about adding an extra person in the room. Fire personel wouldn't know there were more people than thought and could be missing some in their count.

To me it just seems more of a hassle than it is worth. but whatever. Interesting to consider.

I agree with you, especially your last thought. It's just not worth it to me.

 

[mickeyfan2]

So sorry you could not get a room. I don't see anything wrong with it. I would not do it, too much trouble if you ask me.

 

[cardaway]

But they do have to check in in order to get the free dining. Everything will be tied to that POP room key. So the records will show there are 4 people staying in room XXX when in reality there isn't.

I thought they were given vouchers to use. If not, I can see where you are coming from. It would cause confusion to have somebody check in but never use the room.

But it still happens all the time. Think of all the singles who find other places to sleep.

 

[eclectics]

I thought they were given vouchers to use. If not, I can see where you are coming from. It would cause confusion to have somebody check in but never use the room.

But it still happens all the time. Think of all the singles who find other places to sleep.

When I had free dining last year, we just used our room key card. All the info was on it. There were no vouchers. In addition to the "singles" finding alternative sleeping arrangements, some folks have friends and relatives nearby. We have been known to visit and spend a night away from our rooms. We can't be the only ones that do this.

 

[SandraVB79]

Me personally, I wouldn't do it. Seems a bit like a hassle. You do have to go there and check in and out. I would think you would need to make the room look lived in too which would require visits there. I would think mousekeeping would wonder why the room wasn't used and report that back to the front desk.

I think mousekeeping, or any housekeeping anywhere in the world, or used to see weirder things than that. Really...

And I suppose you could go that whole security thing that if there was ever a fire in the middle of the night and these 4 people were unaccounted for could it put people at risk who are going in looking for them?
That is the argument alot of people have about adding an extra person in the room. Fire personel wouldn't know there were more people than thought and could be missing some in their count.

What if they went somewhere partying all night long? What if they went to friends living in the neighbourhood, drank too much and ended up sleeping over there? What if it are 4 singles, friends, all matching up with other singles and spending the night in someone else's bed?

It's a hotel, not a kindergarten.

 

[Chicago526]

Wrong, well, no not really. I think it's dumb though, it's way more work than what I want to do on vacation. I have a budget and I book what I can afford within that budget that makes it the easiest on me as possible. I'm all for saving money, but not when it costs me prescious time from having fun and relaxing!

 

[Disneyhappy]

I in no way think this is cheating. Disney is getting compensated for the room. Who cares how much it is being used? To help end the debate, I called the front desk at POP and asked them if it would be a problem. I had to wait for a supervisor who said there is nothing wrong with it, it has happened before, and that they would only ask to let the front desk know at time of arrival so the housekeeping staff doesn't have cause for concern. She also said it was unusual and seems like a lot of work. Take this for what it is worth. Perhaps if someone else calls back they will get another answer.

I agree it sounds like a lot of work, but 15 years ago, I may have considered it as we were in a much different financial position at that time.