What are your Pet Peeves?

[kaytieeldr]

Honestly? I would be horrified that grandma went flying, but who forced grandma onto the bus? I would blame whoever had the poor judgement to put grandma on a bus that was standing room only.

That would likely BE grandma. Fragile bones do not indicate a fragile mind. Nobody "put" grandma on the bus - she boarded on her own, and she could well be in her forties.

Exactly. If you walk on the bus and see there are already people standing and you don't feel comfortable standing (or want your children, no matter what age they are, standing) you can simply walk off

You think so? Have you TRIED getting off a bus that's so crowded there's noplace to sit, yet people continue to board?

My response to that is......whoever BROUGHT grandma on the bus had better give up their seat for her.

Nobody BROUGHT grandma. She's an intelligent, alert person with fragile bones and a poor sense of balance. Never mind that if there's no seat for her, there's no seat for other members of her party (assuming there are any - what if she's traveling alone, given that even old people do that).

 

[SelfEmployedDebtFree]

I will probably get flamed all over for this but here is my pet peeve. My DH and I go to Disney almost every year and for EVERY parade we scope out a spot at least an hour before the parade starts. Then we don't move, not even to go get a drink. So my pet peeve is parents that arrive with their kids ten minutes before the parade and expect DH and I to move so that their "family" can get a front row seat. Well we are a family too and just because we don't have kids doesn't mean we don't enjoy the parades just as much. We are going with my niece and nephews, sisters and parents this May and have already told them how long we wait for a parade spot!

I look at it like this... If I "stake my claim" and "hold down my spot" for an hour for the PERFECT spot to watch Illuminations... That HOUR I was sitting there I CHOSE to sit there. If they rode rides while I was sitting waiting then THATS THE TRADEOFF!!! If they wanted a great spot they should have gotten there earlier, and ignorance is no excuse. They'll know better next time. I let my children stand in front of me (sometimes), but Illuminations is the #1 reason I go. I LOVE that show. I know every word of every song. Those are the memories I cherish, and I take the appropriate sacrafices to insure the best spot available. No one gets in front of me.
occasionally I will CHOOSE to let a child in front, but usually I prefer NOT TO, if for no other reason, I dont want to take a chance on the parent saying i'm too close to their daughter (or son). I like my space.
Theres always some individual who thinks he should be able to take advantage of the short waits for rides while we are NOT on rides, who then gets mad because we wont let his kids up front. Sorry. you chose that route. I chose mine. I chose NOT to ride rides for that hour, and I'm being rewarded now, He chose TO ride rides, he already had his reward.

Now with THAT being said, I DO try to take as little space as possible. Ive seen some familys block off a 12' section on the bridge for 5 family members. Thats just being greedy. If the show is about to start, and if noone has pushed us into a tight ball, THEN and only then will I ask other children if they would like to come up to our space.

 

[MushyMushy]

That would likely BE grandma. Fragile bones do not indicate a fragile mind. Nobody "put" grandma on the bus - she boarded on her own, and she could well be in her forties.
You think so? Have you TRIED getting off a bus that's so crowded there's noplace to sit, yet people continue to board?
Nobody BROUGHT grandma. She's an intelligent, alert person with fragile bones and a poor sense of balance. Never mind that if there's no seat for her, there's no seat for other members of her party (assuming there are any - what if she's traveling alone, given that even old people do that).

If grandma has fragile bones, then it might be best for her family to rent a car to drive her around in, or call a taxi for her own safety rather than expecting others to give up a seat for her.

If I had someone in my party who absolutely needed a seat for safety reasons, you can bet I'd take responsibility for it. Actually, we did this on our last trip when I had a sprained ankle. When buses were standing room only, we took a cab back to the resort. Much less stressful!

 

[SelfEmployedDebtFree]

grandma's a popular lady tonight!

 

[dolcezena]

Am I the only DIS fan who takes public transportation all the time?!?!?

I certainly don't expect to let my bus-etiquette slip when I go to WDW! And if I encounter people that do, well, I guess I'll just roll my eyes at those that do, just like at home, & think "Amateurs"

 

[mirthmaiden]

Nobody BROUGHT grandma. She's an intelligent, alert person with fragile bones and a poor sense of balance. Never mind that if there's no seat for her, there's no seat for other members of her party (assuming there are any - what if she's traveling alone, given that even old people do that).

If grandma is alert and intelligent, she will see that there is no seat for her and not get on the bus unless she is confident about her ability to stand and hold on. That's what I do when I board a bus - I look to assess the situation and board (or not) depending on what it is.

 

[addicted_to_WDW]

Am I the only DIS fan who takes public transportation all the time?!?!?

I commute every day by bus and then Metro. I always find it funny when people start talking about how standing on the bus is so dangerous, when thousands if not millions do it every day on real roads, not the tame WDW roads.

On the real bus, people generally give up their seats for the elderly and people with a clear disability. On real buses, you'll not often see an able bodied young man get up so a similarly able bodied young woman can sit. I'm middle aged (ack!) and men will occasionally offer me their seat. I decline, after thanking them for the offer.

 

[ZuZugal]

Nobody BROUGHT grandma. She's an intelligent, alert person with fragile bones and a poor sense of balance. Never mind that if there's no seat for her, there's no seat for other members of her party (assuming there are any - what if she's traveling alone, given that even old people do that).

I didn't know you were the only one who knows grandma. There are many different grandmas out there. When my mom tags along with us on a trip she gets on the bus and hangs on if need be. She doesn't feel sorry for herself and expect a seat to be given up for her every time. She's an old german workhorse and very proud of it...as am I.

Maybe if you would have quoted my ENTIRE post, you would see that my older children give up their seats to anyone who needs one on a very crowded bus. So the very fraile old grandma visiting WDW on her own would have had a seat on that crowded bus if my kids were on it.

 

[labattblue]

Vacationers with a sense of entitlement. They spent lots of $$$ to get here and they don't care how they act as long as they are first at everything and are having a great time. Thankfully there aren't tons of these people but enough that we have many threads dedicated to such behavior.

Amen!

 

[labattblue]

One other pet peeve just came to mind which really annoys me(I apologize if this was already mentioned)...


DON'T let your kids sit on, swing from or hang on the railings in the attraction queues! This is posted in numerous places, yet I saw numerous parents ignoring this behavior. I guess this is more of the vacation entitlement(as someone above has called it) mentality.

 

[melanell]

How about WDW bans standing on buses? Then you can complain that it takes to long to board a bus or that they should increase the number of buses because they don't allow standing anymore.

That would be fine with me! I always wait for a bus with empty seats anyway!!


Of course, this is why I don't jump up to offer my seat to people. I probably already waited and passed on one bus to have my seat on this particular bus.

As for kids...we'll be using a rental car for this upcoming trip...our first with a kiddo.

There's no way I'm subjecting us & him to the bus torture!

 

[kaysmommie]

If you read my post, I said that I specifically mentioned healthy older kids first off. And I have never glared at anyone to get up or made snippy comments like many of the stroller/parent nags have done. I was merely bringing up that so many people start whining on these boards that adults don't give up their seat automatically to kids or a parent with kids, carrying a stroller etc. I was presenting the other side of the story. You ask if I'm psychic and how dare I presume who needs a seat? Have you read the posts slamming adult guests who don't give up their bus seat to kids or parents? Talk about presumptive and rude. I gave up my seat before and I'll do it again, but as someone else said, it's when I feel like it not because some annoying pushy parent guilted me into it. And I still think that kids should give up a seat to an old person, someone handicapped, or pregnant. I do not fall into any of these categories, but I know I'm wasting my time even attempting to argue this point, because obviously, people read and see what they want to, and respond in a hysterical, aggressive manner. Just please keep in mind that the world does not revolve around you and your offsping-this is why many kids have no boundaries, or respect. It's because they've been taught that the world turns on their needs and wants. Last post on this subject, because I'm starting to get the idea that debating certain subjects is similar to banging your head against a brick wall. Most of the people here are reasonable and objective, fortunately and thank God for the ignore option!

I would never expect my DD7 to stand on the bus. She is still in a car seat and wieghs 41 lbs. and yes she go flying if the bused stopped suddenly. I would however give my seat to anyone with a baby who neede a seat. My ds can also sit on one of our laps to make room for others. But no way are my children standing on a bus. It's not thier fault you had to take buses to school. I have to drive my DD because buses only come to certain areas. I feel better driving her though. Kids, babies and the elderly need a seat more than me though. But then if I had to have a seat i would wait for another bus and not expect others to give me thier seat.

 

[kaysmommie]

I can understand that many things annoy people. I'm there with you. But most of all I CAN NOT STAND people who forget their manners. It's my big pet peeve! Don't scream - it's rude. Don't block others - it's rude. Don't push - it's rude. But if you find yourself doing something you normally wouldn't - like I have stopped dead in my tracks on occasion just as a reaction to something and not really thinking - but I always appologize. If I'm pushing a stroller and run into someone - whether I feel it's their fault or not - I'm going to say I'm sorry. If there is a little one behind me that wants to see a show or something - I'm going to offer to let them in front - most the time they are to my waist so I can still see just as clearly. My main point is just be nice we are all on vacation. I'm not trying to ruin yours please don't ruin mine. Sorry about my rant. It just don't think leaving your manners behind is acceptable.

Good post and I agree with you 100% .

 

[Andy B]

I would never expect my DD7 to stand on the bus. She is still in a car seat and wieghs 41 lbs. and yes she go flying if the bused stopped suddenly. I would however give my seat to anyone with a baby who neede a seat. My ds can also sit on one of our laps to make room for others. But no way are my children standing on a bus. It's not thier fault you had to take buses to school. I have to drive my DD because buses only come to certain areas. I feel better driving her though. Kids, babies and the elderly need a seat more than me though. But then if I had to have a seat i would wait for another bus and not expect others to give me thier seat.

At what age would you expect your child to stand.

 

[disneyjunkie]

Wow, what a thread

OK, so let me see if I correctly understand the proper "bus manners:"

* Young kids should stand on a bus to let older people sit.
* Adults should give up their seats to let tired younger children sit.
* It is safer to hold your child on your lap.
* It is safer for your child to have their own seat.
* Their should never be any tired children on the bus because at the first sign of being remotely tired, you should RUN from the park with your children to ensure that children do not irritate older equally tired and irritated adults on the bus.
* People who require a seat should wait for the next bus.
* Even if you waited for the next bus, you should give up your seat.
* Some people need a seat more than others, due to unforseen ailments.
* The people with unforseen ailments are ALWAYS the people who are standing, never the people/kids not giving up their seats.
* People with strollers should trot along behind the bus to ensure that they are not taking up too much space.
* Being offered a seat is something that everyone should be able to expect.
* No one should automatically expect to be offered a seat.

Did I cover everything?

How about WDW bans standing on buses? Then you can complain that it takes to long to board a bus or that they should increase the number of buses because they don't allow standing anymore.

If they ban standing, you have to purchase more buses and hire more drivers. If they do this,then people will complain about the cost of a WDW trip increasing.

People need to understand that it's a PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. Some people will have to stand. That's why the buses are designed the way they are. If they didn't want you to stand, they would use charter type buses. (The buses used for Magical Express)

People rushing to the bus at the bus stops is my major pet peeve! They see the bus coming, run to the curb and then block the door for those people trying to get off. Several times on our last trip the bus drivers had to get pretty firm about telling people to stand back and let people off...and we were there the beginning of February, so it wasn't like you weren't going to get a seat. I actually saw one father YELL at his GROWN daughter who would not move back from the bus door as we were trying to get off! I thought, "You go, Daddy! Tell her!!"

If people would exit from the rear instead of from the front, this wouldn't be an issue. Now, for the record, I tend to exit from the front. However, I don't get angry about people crowding the door. Since I know I'm just as wrong as they are, it would be kinda silly for me to get upset about it.

I commute every day by bus and then Metro. I always find it funny when people start talking about how standing on the bus is so dangerous, when thousands if not millions do it every day on real roads, not the tame WDW roads.

On the real bus, people generally give up their seats for the elderly and people with a clear disability. On real buses, you'll not often see an able bodied young man get up so a similarly able bodied young woman can sit. I'm middle aged (ack!) and men will occasionally offer me their seat. I decline, after thanking them for the offer.

ITA

 

[luuuceee]

At what age would you expect your child to stand.

My kids stood on the bus when they were 6 (DD) and 8 (DS). Most of the time, it was because we CHOSE to get on the crowded bus, because we'd rather stand than wait for the next bus. We were ready to get back. Now, a few times someone (usually a man) would stand and offer the seat to us. I'd have DD sit while DS and I still stood. If someone offered seats to the 3 of us, I'd say we'll take one for DD, but DS and I are fine. Actually, by the end of the trip, DD was declining the seat because she felt more comfortable standing on the bus and learned to keep her balance, even with quick starts and stops.

Of course, she wasn't 41 pounds either. She was probably about 60 or 65 pounds, and every bit of 48". If she were a tiny little thing she probably wouldn't have been standing at all.

Now, when we all had seats, we were thrilled. We enjoyed them. The only time I gave my seat up was when a parent had to stand and hold their child. I wouldn't want to stand on a bus with a child, so I offered them a seat. I would have offered to grandma or grandpa too, but they weren't on my busses.

 

[ZuZugal]

At what age would you expect your child to stand.

see below

Actually, by the end of the trip, DD was declining the seat because she felt more comfortable standing on the bus and learned to keep her balance, even with quick starts and stops.
Of course, she wasn't 41 pounds either. She was probably about 60 or 65 pounds, and every bit of 48". If she were a tiny little thing she probably wouldn't have been standing at all.

I think this is your answer. The age of the child does not matter nearly as much as his/her height, weight, and balance. My son could easily stand on his own at age 7 on the bus without falling into other riders. My daugher, not so much.

 

[Andy B]

see below




I think this is your answer. The age of the child does not matter nearly as much as his/her height, weight, and balance. My son could easily stand on his own at age 7 on the bus without falling into other riders. My daugher, not so much.

So if I have had a drink too much and I am struggling with my balance then I will be offered a seat. Whoohoo!

 

[luuuceee]

So if I have had a drink too much and I am struggling with my balance then I will be offered a seat. Whoohoo!

If it keeps you from being belligerent or puking on my family, then yes, we will offer you a seat.

 

[addicted_to_WDW]

I think that another thing to remember is that balancing on the bus is so much easier if you aren't trying to carry everything you own (hey, another pet peeve)! Try to get it down to one backpack per family, maximum, and you'll be able to balance.