What about freedom of speech

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I am not happy that I won't be able to post our magnetic signs on our Disney Cruise line door due to the new policy has just been announced from Disney Cruise line.

"Effective immediately, Guests are prohibited from affixing any magnetic signs that carry any other company name than Disney to their stateroom doors."

I am proud of our signs that show Michael has been on all the PCC cruises. What happened to freedom of speech.

Carol
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What happened to freedom of speech.

I'm not sure if you're saying that tongue in cheek or not, but since freedom of speech is a concept so many get wrong . . . Freedom of speech, as the term is used in the constitution, applies only to government regulation of speech. It does not protect anyone from a private company's rules and regulations regarding the content of speech.
 
I am not happy that I won't be able to post our magnetic signs on our Disney Cruise line door due to the new policy has just been announced from Disney Cruise line.

"Effective immediately, Guests are prohibited from affixing any magnetic signs that carry any other company name than Disney to their stateroom doors."

I am proud of our signs that show Michael has been on all the PCC cruises. What happened to freedom of speech.

Carol
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Where did you see this?

You can still place magnets on your door, they can not be an advertisement for another company other than Disney. For example, if your travel agent gave you a magnet for your door and it has their name on it you won't be able to place it on your door.
 

It kind of sucks, but they are perfectly within their rights to ask you not to advertise another company while on their property. :confused3

I'm not sure that saying "PCC 5.0" would be considered advertising another company. (As long as Dreams Unlimited's name or the DISBoards were not mentioned on the magnet).

Sayhello
 
I don't think that this is a freedom of speech issue at all. Cruisers are on private property and must abide by the rules put forth by that company. It also is within their right to limit what other guests "experience" as a result of walking down a hallway with signage on doors.
 
And since part of the issue here is the risk of damaging the door, that's like saying my freedom of speech is being encroached upon because I can't spray paint graffiti on a building downtown.

Hoping this was tongue-in-cheek.
 
The door magnet I got from DU when I was on Podcast Cruise 3.0 includes the phrase "DIS Unplugged" and the web address podcast.wdwinfo.com. I'm guessing that this is what OP was talking about in her post.

I suppose one could argue that a podcast isn't the same thing as a business and that the company name is Dreams Unlimited and not "wdwinfo"?
 
I say put up the door magnets anyway. They're not going to put you in Mickey jail!

:rotfl2:
 
This is not a free speech issue and, honestly, to me, it lessons the argument to use the term. If you have an issue with DCL, then that is fine. Just make sure to use the right terminology it it won't be taken as seriously.
 
I'm going to stand up for Carol. Respectfully, she is probably wrong if she is thinking that the "free speech" clause in the first amendment to the United States Constitution somehow prohibits Magical Cruise Company, Ltd. (dba Disney Cruise Line) from deciding not to permit other business magnets on cabin doors.

But the question isn't so simple as to be "hilarious[ly]" wrong and no one here should fault Carol for asking the question. That is much worse that being wrong about a constitutional issue, in my book.

Magical Cruise Company, Ltd. is a UK corporation with its principal place of business in London. Is anyone here enough of an expert on UK law to be able to say with certainty that it does not regulate DCL's conduct and does not impose limits on private companies who restrict speech by customers?

DCL ships are registered under the laws of "The Bahamas!" (exclamation point in original at http://disneycruise.disney.go.com/ships-activities/ships/). Is anyone here enough of an expert on Bahamian law to know whether it prohibits private companies from imposing restrictions on free speech of their customers?

And for all we know, Florida, California, British Columbia or Canada (for the Alaskan cruises) impose constitutional or statutory limits on a private company's restriction of free speech. Anyone here an expert on Canadian Constitutional or Maritime law? I sure don't know one way or the other, certainly not enough to think someone is being hilarious just for asking.

And for all we know, Carol was not even asking a constitutional issue but trying to drum up support for her campaign to get DCL to let her post the prior (and current) PCC magnets on her door.

If we know anything, it is to never underestimate Carol's determination.
 
I'm going to stand up for Carol. Respectfully, she is probably wrong if she is thinking that the "free speech" clause in the first amendment to the United States Constitution somehow prohibits Magical Cruise Company, Ltd. (dba Disney Cruise Line) from deciding not to permit other business magnets on cabin doors.

But the question isn't so simple as to be "hilarious[ly]" wrong and no one here should fault Carol for asking the question. That is much worse that being wrong about a constitutional issue, in my book.

Magical Cruise Company, Ltd. is a UK corporation with its principal place of business in London. Is anyone here enough of an expert on UK law to be able to say with certainty that it does not regulate DCL's conduct and does not impose limits on private companies who restrict speech by customers?

DCL ships are registered under the laws of "The Bahamas!" (exclamation point in original at http://disneycruise.disney.go.com/ships-activities/ships/). Is anyone here enough of an expert on Bahamian law to know whether it prohibits private companies from imposing restrictions on free speech of their customers?

And for all we know, Florida, California, British Columbia or Canada (for the Alaskan cruises) impose constitutional or statutory limits on a private company's restriction of free speech. Anyone here an expert on Canadian Constitutional or Maritime law? I sure don't know one way or the other, certainly not enough to think someone is being hilarious just for asking.

And for all we know, Carol was not even asking a constitutional issue but trying to drum up support for her campaign to get DCL to let her post the prior (and current) PCC magnets on her door.

If we know anything, it is to never underestimate Carol's determination.

Jack, you understand me so well.

Michael L, we will put our magnets up. If we go to Disney Jail, will you post our bail with Disney dollars.

Carol
It's a great day to be alive!!!
 
Jack, you understand me so well.

Michael L, we will put our magnets up. If we go to Disney Jail, will you post our bail with Disney dollars.

Carol
It's a great day to be alive!!!

Here, here!! :thumbsup2
Love the idea of posting bail with Disney Dollars!!

I wonder if they have had an increase of advertising of personal businesses on the doors? Businesses totally unrelated to Disney Travel and such. And possibly not very "family friendly" at that.
I will give DCL the benefit of the doubt that it is not Dreams Unlimited Travel and other Disney travel specialists that they may be trying to prevent- but 1-900 phone lines, and other "services" that may be offensive to many cruising families.

I will bring my previous PCC magnets, but wait and see about putting those up.
I do read this as not squelching our creativity.
From what I can tell, we can still make and display all our cute Mickey, Minnie and gang magnets.
 
Who is going to hold the bail money? :lmao:
 
I also find it interesting that DCL starting banning non Disney door magnets at the same time that they begin to sell DCL door magnets on the disneystore.com website.

Can you imagine having this job on the ship - Door Magnet Inspector. :rotfl2:
 
I also find it interesting that DCL starting banning non Disney door magnets at the same time that they begin to sell DCL door magnets on the disneystore.com website.

Can you imagine having this job on the ship - Door Magnet Inspector. :rotfl2:

I noticed that, too. I wonder if the DIS magnets will be permitted, because they're part of a special DCL charter. I guess we'll have to wait for someone from the DIS to let us know. You'll know for sure when you get on the ship for PCC 5.0 and find (or don't find) a PCC 5.0 magnet in your Dreams Unlimited welcome basket.
 















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