Westjet lost this woman's gecko...

What's ludicrous, in my opinion, is the irrational prejudice some people hold against any critter that doesn't have fur.

There's no rational reason to be more scared of this (whether it contains a hermit crab, a gecko, a tarantula or a non-venomous snake):

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Than you are of this:

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(So cute!) :)

I just don't see any reason to restrict cabin travel to furry, dander-producing critters with teeth, while denying it to other small pets, especially ones who can be securely packaged into travel containers and boxes and would therefore not inconvenience or frighten anyone. Or trigger anyone's allergies, for that matter.
You should call up the airline & state your case.
 
You should call up the airline & state your case.

I'm sure many others already are, including the young lady whose gecko disappeared. She says she wants to fight to have the policy changed, and I wish her success.

Some of the stories people have been sharing about Westjet and the way they handle animals are just appalling.

From Yokobono:

At WestJet your pet is considered luggage and nothing more. In fact, my dogs crate had a "sorry we lost your luggage" tag on it when I got her back.

From bbenson:

About 10 years ago WestJet let my hedgehog freeze to death at Pearson airport. I could see them unload him, and then they left him outside. In January. I pleaded with them to do something. They obviously didn't, and wouldn't even apologize after. I was told "that's the risk your take when your travel with a pet" by the WestJet employee as I collected my dead pet.

From Triplecandj:

Westjet Cargo lost my 100lb dog a few years ago. After frantically calling Westjet I found out he had been left in Toronto and would not be flown to Calgary for another 20 hours. No one was helpful. The biggest problem is Westjet Cargo is not actually owned or operated by Westjet. So the people working at Westjet call centre cannot help you and the people at Westjet Cargo simply won't talk to you. My dog was in pretty rough shape when he finally came home after spending almost 40 hours in a crate.

I'm sure Westjet (and other carriers) successfully ship many animals without losing or killing them, but I have to say, I think I'd try to find any other option, rather than put my animal into cargo.

Heck, these days I don't even trust them with my suitcase. I've seen with my own eyes the way baggage handlers sometimes treat luggage! I was in a window seat, looked out, and saw the guys tossing sky checked bags from the top of the stairs down into a bin. A couple even bounced out of the bin onto the tarmac. That, plus the time my metal-reinforced suitcase came down the carousel with the handle caved in (I had to stand on it to bend it back out), has convinced me to only ever travel with carry-on. It's amazing how efficiently you can pack for a nine day vacation, if you're motivated!
 
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I'm sure many others already are, including the young lady whose gecko disappeared. She says she wants to fight to have the policy changed, and I wish her success.

Some of the stories people have been sharing about Westjet and the way they handle animals are just appalling.

From Yokobono:

Okay, somebody put a wrong sticker on a kennel containing a pet when neither was actually lost.

From bbenson:

That stinks. Did that person indicate if the destination temperature was below WeatHer's -12c (pretty standard), or whether hedgehogs have a lower tolerance for cold?

From Triplecandj:

Misdirected, not lost. Weather cargo does not appear to be a separate company, just that owners sending pets as cargo need to bring them to a designated warehouse.

I'm sure Westjet (and other carriers) successfully ship many animals without losing or killing them, but I have to say, I think I'd try to find any other option, rather than put my animal into cargo.

Heck, these days I don't even trust them with my suitcase. I've seen with my own eyes the way baggage handlers sometimes treat luggage! I was in a window seat, looked out, and saw the guys tossing sky checked bags from the top of the stairs down into a bin. A couple even bounced out of the bin onto the tarmac. That, plus the time my metal-reinforced suitcase came down the carousel with the handle caved in (I had to stand on it to bend it back out), has convinced me to only ever travel with carry-on. It's amazing how efficiently you can pack for a nine day vacation, if you're motivated!

Well, yes. Planes make no money sitting on the ground. Airlines strive for the fastest turnaround possible. Tossing all the gate checked luggage down is scads faster than walking down two or three bags at a time.
 
Okay, somebody put a wrong sticker on a kennel containing a pet when neither was actually lost.

Actually the rest of Yokobono's story:

"I didn't trust them getting on the plane and had them confirm my dog was onboard before I boarded, they lied to me and said she was. I got my dog back a day or two later and a flight credit as well but will never forgive them or fly them again."

I'd say that qualified as "lost". I simply left it out because I wasn't sure what qualifies as "a day or two later", but it certainly sounds like the dog was left behind and had to be shipped on a later flight. Whether you want to count that as "misdirected" or "lost" the fact remains that the dog did not arrive when and where she was supposed to arrive.

That stinks. Did that person indicate if the destination temperature was below WeatHer's -12c (pretty standard), or whether hedgehogs have a lower tolerance for cold?

I think I might use terms a bit stronger than "that stinks", but yes, it does. Toronto in January can typically have temperatures that vary widely, but I wouldn't leave a jacket-less person out on the tarmac in -12C weather, much less a small animal. That's frostbite weather. And given that this was most likely an African pygmy hedgehog (the most common pets), I'd say yeah... it would have a low tolerance for cold.

Misdirected, not lost. Weather cargo does not appear to be a separate company, just that owners sending pets as cargo need to bring them to a designated warehouse.

If owners were allowed to personally bring their pets to the correct warehouse, I'm sure they would. So that one's on Westjet Cargo. And whether you want to call it misdirected or lost, the fact remains that this 100lb dog was not delivered to its destination, and as it result it suffered hunger and thirst and was forced to lie in its own waste for 40 hours.


Well, yes. Planes make no money sitting on the ground. Airlines strive for the fastest turnaround possible. Tossing all the gate checked luggage down is scads faster than walking down two or three bags at a time.

That's no excuse for throwing people's belongings 20 feet through the air and smashing them on the ground. The last time I was on Air Canada (and believe me, I rarely have anything good to say about them, especially after they tried to bump my minor child to a different flight!), they had a conveyor belt set up and the crew were quickly and efficiently loading bags. I watched and the bags arrived at the bottom in one piece and were loaded on the trolley in a professional manner. It was faster, but not destructive. I was quite positively impressed (but I still kept my bags with me).

When people turn their belongings over to an airline, they're trusting that the airline will take reasonable care with them. What I saw was not reasonable, and downright horrifying if you imagine there might have been an animal or two travelling in that same hold.
 

Toronto in January can typically have temperatures that vary widely, but I wouldn't leave a jacket-less person out on the tarmac in -12C weather, much less a small animal.
Weather's temperature restriction is identical to Delta's. I also have not found a single airline where the pet policy allows anything other than warm-blooded mammals.
The last time I was on Air Canada (and believe me, I rarely have anything good to say about them, especially after they tried to bump my minor child to a different flight!), they had a conveyor belt set up
Then it appears your decision to avoid Westjet and fly only Air Canada is the wise one for you.
 
Weather's temperature restriction is identical to Delta's.

I have no idea what you mean by this sentence.

I also have not found a single airline where the pet policy allows anything other than warm-blooded mammals.

Westjet allows birds in the cabin. They're not "warm-blooded mammals".

Then it appears your decision to avoid Westjet and fly only Air Canada is the wise one for you.

I don't avoid any airline. I take my luggage as carry-on, and I would do everything in my power not to ship an animal by air.
 
http://globalnews.ca/news/2848375/b-c-womans-pet-gecko-goes-missing-during-westjet-flight/

And here's the original thread she started on Reddit, which I've been watching for awhile now, hoping for a happy resolution (but since it's been 48 hours now, and the poor critter hasn't had any food or water, I doubt it):

https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/4uoxsy/westjet_lost_my_pet_please_help_me_get_her_back/

I feel horrible for her, and I absolutely agree - if Westjet allows cats, birds, rabbits and dogs to travel in the cabin, then they should definitely allow other small animals to travel, too.

Update: The gecko was found alive, after several days in the luggage. :goodvibes
Geckos aren't domesticated animals & really shouldn't be made into pets. This woman would be kind to just set it free in her yard.
 
Westjet just posted on Twitter that Nom (the gecko) has been found & is fine. No mention of where it was found... Thankful for a "happy ending"
 
In CANADA? That's not very kind at all to do to a cold-blooded animal. Yikes.

LMAO we aren't snow year round. Geez, you make us sound like a barren waste land. No worse than North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, Illinois...should I go on?
 
LMAO we aren't snow year round. Geez, you make us sound like a barren waste land. No worse than North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, Illinois...should I go on?

I live 90 miles from Vancouver, where the woman from the story moved to with the gecko. I'm pretty familiar with what the weather is like here/there. It doesn't have to be the tundra to be too cold for a cold-blooded animal that can't regulate its body temperature. Not sure why you took that so personally.

ETA: JUST because I know how this board works lol, I'll clarify - Yes I know that there are some reptiles in Canada. They are a bit "heartier". Geckos are from warm climates and have different needs.
 
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I live 90 miles from Vancouver, where the woman from the story moved to with the gecko. I'm pretty familiar with what the weather is like here/there. It doesn't have to be the tundra to be too cold for a cold-blooded animal that can't regulate its body temperature. Not sure why you took that so personally.

I didn't take it personally it was just the way you said it, all caps, like it was the most offensive thing ever. You could have said, in Vancouver? Even that wouldn't have been that bad.
 
I didn't take it personally it was just the way you said it, all caps, like it was the most offensive thing ever. You could have said, in Vancouver? Even that wouldn't have been that bad.

I do find encouraging the dumping of an animal from a tropical climate out into the elements in a much cooler region to be offensive. If the subject of the story lived in Alaska I would have typed ALASKA, or MINNESOTA, or NORTH DAKOTA, etc. I just used caps for emphasis, again, no need to be offended.
 
I have no idea what you mean by this sentence.

Sorry, but it seems fairly obvious that most people don't agree with your stance on allowing snakes & arachnids in cabins on a plane. Any airline that openly allowed them in the cabin would be out of business soon. I don't see Westjet or any other airline changing their policy, due to the few that have a problem with it.
 
I didn't take it personally it was just the way you said it, all caps, like it was the most offensive thing ever. You could have said, in Vancouver? Even that wouldn't have been that bad.

I'm Canadian, too, and if she hadn't already posted "IN CANADA???", I would have.

Dumping a defenseless animal outside to die in a foreign climate (versus the climate it's actually designed to live in) is just horribly cruel.
 
Sorry, but it seems fairly obvious that most people don't agree with your stance on allowing snakes & arachnids in cabins on a plane. Any airline that openly allowed them in the cabin would be out of business soon. I don't see Westjet or any other airline changing their policy, due to the few that have a problem with it.

Oh, I understand your opinion on this. Still don't understand the sentence about "Weather's temperature restriction is identical to Delta's", though. :)
 
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