Westgate Resort ?

[Tinkerbelle32]

Hello! My friend was offered a time share package through a resort called Westgate. Something like $362 for the entire week. She could also buy discounted Disney tickets. She seems a bit aprehensive. Does anyone have any knowledge on this resort or time share pitch? Thanks in advance!!

 

[Gina-Gina-Bo-Bina]

We did this last summer at Westgate Lakes Resort & Spa (there are multiple Westgate properties in Orlando, and I am guessing that all of them will offer the same type of discounted stay with an obligatory timeshare presentation). Our rate was slightly higher....$483 for a 7 night stay with VIP passes for all resort amenities....but we also opted for a two bedroom, two bathroom villa. I know one bedroom and studio villas were even cheaper.

Our villa was lovely, we were placed in a great location and we loved the resort. The timeshare presentation, however, was less than enjoyable. Another guest described the salesmen as "relentless" and he was right on the money. The 90 minutes originally stipulated was well over 3 hours. We were "escalated" from the initial salesperson who gave us the tour of the sample unit and property to 3 other managers, who became higher pressure and sleazier (and angrier at our "no's") as we were passed from person to person. The tour started late (we actually had to ask a greeter at the Smokehouse Grill to PLEASE find our salesperson so we could get the show on the road, more than 20 minutes after the promised start time). And after we finally freed ourselves of the sales people, they left us stranded at the main building (our car was still at the Smokehouse Grill, on the far side of the property) and wouldn't provide us with a ride back. Absolutely classless.

All that said, the resort was great and the "resort preview" was the only unpleasant part of the stay.

 

[Tinkerbelle32]

Thanks for your quick reply!!

 

[spiceycat]

Never do a Westgate timeshare presentation.

It is not worth the cost to you.

these people are sharks and are only interested in separating you from your money - they will lie and guarantee your stuff that just won't happen.

avoid them at all costs.

that say a stay at Westgate w/o their timeshare presentation is a good deal. Just be sure you don't have to attend any sales pitch.

 

[MarkF0wle]

A few years back our accommodation choice was undergoing building work & we were transferred to Westgate Lakes Resort & Spa. The apartment was wonderful, I cannot fault it. It far surpassed anywhere we had stayed at the time & we stayed in Villas mostly.

Since we had been transferred there & not actually booked there we weren't forced into any sales meeting, though we were pestered night & day by our sales person. Which is rightly annoying as we hadn't chosen to stay here & were transferred there. Which they did not understand. To make things worst a member of the family was being treated for cancer whilst we were there & so coming home to messages on the phone every day was stressful because we always feared the worst. Even with all that & our refusal to engage the salespeople they would not give in.

We would not stay there again as the constant badgering was not worth the facilities. If you're considering buying in great, if not. I'd miss it & spend more to stay elsewhere.

 

[maa]

We did this last summer at Westgate Lakes Resort & Spa (there are multiple Westgate properties in Orlando, and I am guessing that all of them will offer the same type of discounted stay with an obligatory timeshare presentation). Our rate was slightly higher....$483 for a 7 night stay with VIP passes for all resort amenities....but we also opted for a two bedroom, two bathroom villa. I know one bedroom and studio villas were even cheaper.

Our villa was lovely, we were placed in a great location and we loved the resort. The timeshare presentation, however, was less than enjoyable. Another guest described the salesmen as "relentless" and he was right on the money. The 90 minutes originally stipulated was well over 3 hours. We were "escalated" from the initial salesperson who gave us the tour of the sample unit and property to 3 other managers, who became higher pressure and sleazier (and angrier at our "no's") as we were passed from person to person. The tour started late (we actually had to ask a greeter at the Smokehouse Grill to PLEASE find our salesperson so we could get the show on the road, more than 20 minutes after the promised start time). And after we finally freed ourselves of the sales people, they left us stranded at the main building (our car was still at the Smokehouse Grill, on the far side of the property) and wouldn't provide us with a ride back. Absolutely classless.

All that said, the resort was great and the "resort preview" was the only unpleasant part of the stay.

We stayed there in March of last year after a terrible experience with a different resort booked through Expedia. Expedia put us in the Westgate Resort for about $100/night. It was a beautiful resort, but I second the comments about the relentless salesmen. Our sales presentation lasted over three hours as well (with two kids under 10 in tow). After several attempts to politely decline their timeshare, finally I just told our salesman flat out that we were "too poor".

Parking was also a HUGE issue for us as we were there over spring break and it was packed.

 

[4kids4karen]

I found out something at my last timeshare stay in Daytona. We were there with a cheer group and other couples were attending the pesentation to get the free gifts. We were not offered to attend the presentation so we tried to attend to get the freebies as well. We were told we could not attend because Florida law (ha ha) says that both husband and wife has to be present. Ya.. so you can sign the deal in one shot! Since it was me and another cheer mom, they were not interested in us. So if you are married, but say "not to each other" (ha ha) they won't be interested in you. Only single people and married couples. I am a Florida resident and many of my friends has bought real estate without the other spouse present as long as they came within three days to sign. I even asked this hotel (Wyndham Ocean Walk) what if I had a power of attorney to sign for my husband. They were clueless and admitted they had never been asked but didn't think it was good enough! Our friends told us to go back later to another rep and say we were a female married couple so we could attend. LOL. I said no to that.


I just googled and found this:
http://www.extraholidays.com/wyndha...rms.aspx?promoid=shawnee-mini-vac-159-t-and-c

Terms and Conditions
Eligibility: Must attend a 120-minute CLUB WYNDHAM timeshare sales presentation with spouse, if married. This promotional package is designed for individuals who are 28 years of age or older with a minimum annual household income of $70,000. The income qualification is waived for individuals 55 years of age or older. Wyndham Vacation Ownership employees, CLUB WYNDHAM owners and persons having attended a CLUB WYNDHAM sales presentation within the last 12 months are ineligible. Photo ID and a major credit card required upon check-in.
Rescheduling: Arrival dates may be rescheduled once, free of charge; for additional changes, a $25 fee will apply. No changes will be permitted within 72 hours of arrival date.

Restrictions and Limitations: Failure to comply with the Rescheduling policy, attend the sales presentation or meet the Eligibility Requirements will result in forfeiture of the package price and the benefits of the package. Multiple families or couples are not allowed to participate in this offer at the same time. No pets allowed. Offer cannot be combined with any other offer and is non-transferable. Reservations are subject to availability.

State and Legal Disclosures: If you decide to cancel, you must provide Wyndham Vacation Resorts, Inc. (address below) written notice of your intent to cancel within fifteen days after purchase to receive a full refund. Your state may provide you with additional rights, which will be sent to you if applicable. Wyndham Vacation Resorts reserves the right to substitute any advertised lodging or feature with one of equal or greater value.

Developer: Wyndham Vacation Resorts, Inc., 8427 SouthPark Circle, Orlando, Fla. 32819.

This offer is not valid where registration requirements have not been met. Inventory identified within these terms and conditions is subject to change without notice and depends upon your state of residence.

THIS ADVERTISING MATERIAL IS BEING USED FOR THE PURPOSE OF SOLICITING SALES OF TIMESHARE INTERESTS.

 

[4kids4karen]

WGL - I am a resident of a county that isn't eligible. Actually, DH always turns them down flat and we didn't even know these rules.

Westgate Lakes Resort Terms & Conditions

http://www.orlandodiscountticketsusa.com/westgate_lakes_terms_and_conditions.html

Guest must attend a courteous and approximately 90/120 minute resort sales presentation at Westgate Lakes Resort & Spa.

Married or Cohabitation guest must be between the ages of 28-68 years of age

Guest must have an annual household combined income of $60,000

Sorry, Singles and Full-Time Students Do Not Qualify.

Participants must bring two forms of ID for check-in and the presentation: 1) A valid Driver's License, State Issued ID, Military ID or Passport and...... 2)
Show a Major Bank Issued Credit Card for ID purposes only (Amex-Discover-Visa-Master Card).
A Prepaid Credit Card or Debit/Check Card Is Not A Credit Card But Can Be Used To Pay For Package and/or Incidentals
If Married or Cohabitation, Both Partners must attend the sales presentation together...
Co-Habituating couples must provide proof of same address and living together.
All participants must be able to speak & understand fluent English or Spanish.
All Tickets Will Be Given After Sales Presentation/Tour.
The sales presentation will take place on a day during the vacation stay (Except Day of Arrival & Day of Departure).
Florida & Georgia residents of the following counties Do Not Qualify: Brevard, Lake, Orange, Osceola, Polk, Seminole, Volusia, Broward, Miami-Dade, Pasco, Marion, Hernando, Citrus, Pinellas, Hillsborough, Manatee, Sarasota, Desoto, Hardee, Highlands, Okeechobee, Palm Beach, St Lucie, Indian River, Sumter, Flagler, St Johns, Duval, Clay, Putnam & Fulton County Georgia!
Sorry, but residents of the following States, Countries or Provinces Do Not Qualify: Alaska, Washington, Maine, Hawaii, Canada, Brazil or Venezuela
Residents of the following countries/provinces Do Not Qualify: click here
Not Eligible if you have previewed/toured Westgate Resorts in Last 24 Months
Only one promotional package per family, group or friends vacationing with same, similar or adjoining arrival and departure dates. Extra rooms may be available for family and friends at a discounted rate; however, only one party will receive the discounted package price....In the event that orlandodiscountticketsusa.com notices, finds out or is informed by the resort that two or more separate parties have booked a vacation package with same, similar or adjoining arrival and departure dates, orlandodiscountticketsusa.com reserves the right to and will charge the second party that booked a package the retail price difference for the package and combine the two vacation packages....
This offer may not be used in conjunction with any promotional offer or for use with another vacation ownership week. Two or more offers may not be used within twelve (12) months to the same resort.
Orlandodiscountticketsusa.com holds no discretion over the eligibility requirements for participation in the resort preview. The eligibility requirements have been set forth by the resort developer. If Orlandodiscountticketsusa.com believes that the eligibility requirements for participation are not being met, we reserve the right to cancel any reservation before the arrival date.
Orlandodiscountticketsusa.com is not responsible for any purchases made for your vacation outside of the purchased package, this includes but is not limited to: airfare, transportation, park or event tickets, guided tours, etc. Any questions please contact info@orlandodiscountticketsusa.com
In the event Orlandodiscountticketsusa.com is informed by the resort developer that your selected travel dates have become unavailable, Orlandodiscountticketsusa.com reserves the right to use substitute accommodations of Equal or Greater value if available or you will receive a full refund for the total monies paid to Orlandodiscountticketsusa.com excluding additional fees incurred for previous reservation modifications.
Employees or relatives of employees of the resort(s) or resort exchange companies are not qualified.
Vacation Packages are Refundable within 30 Days of purchasing the Vacation Package, However, a $59 processing charge will apply plus the first night's room rate at the non-promotional rate...... After 30 Days of booking the Vacation Package, it is Non Refundable....Your Package however can be placed on hold for a period of 12 months for future travel....No Refunds will be given for no-shows and early checkouts. (Very Important: Cancellations Can Only Be Accepted By Phone..Email Cancellations Are Not Accepted)
Important Note: Participants in the promotion who do not meet the qualifications set forth in the above Terms and Conditions, including those who fail to attend the sales presentation or at time of check-in for the presentation are found to Not Qualify, Will Not receive a refund, and will have charged to their credit or check card the Rack Rate of the Resort Room, per night depending on time of year, plus all applicable taxes and the actual cost of any additional gifts awarded, less any payment made by the participant.
No Show or Late Cancellations: Participants with confirmed reservations who fail to check into their reserved accommodations on the first reserved date or who fail to reschedule their reservations within 72 hours of their reserved date a one night charge will be applied to the package at non promotional rate.
THIS ADVERTISING MATERIAL IS BEING USED FOR THE PURPOSE OF SOLICITING SALES OF A VACATION OWNERSHIP (TIMESHARE) PLAN.

 

[Gina-Gina-Bo-Bina]

Sorry, but residents of the following States, Countries or Provinces Do Not Qualify: Alaska, Washington, Maine, Hawaii, Canada, Brazil or Venezuela.

We qualified last August.

 

[Brook1099]

We own at Westgate Lakes and Resorts, while we have always enjoyed our stay there, we would never buy into a timeshare ever again!! Its sounds like a great deal, but I always say if its sounds to good to be true it usually is. So for this situation they will have to pay the price by taking away there vacation time and relentless sales pitches, that to me is not worth my time, unless they r clearly going into buy. If they want to buy contact me..sell it really cheap.

 

[spiceycat]

westgate is for sale lots of time for $0 - just to get rid of them - finally got rid of mind to a charity - a couple of years ago.

so happy to have gotten rid of it.

of course you can go in with this
http://tug2.com/timesharemarketplac...roomsMin=&BathroomsMax=&SleepsMin=&SleepsMax=


if it is not sorted - click on resort -
then all westgate will be at the bottom - some have the maintenance fees - Westgate is horrible on maintenance fees - because they charge the same fees for summer/spring season - as off-season.

so in effective you are paying for the on season.

also for me - this is a big one - you can get Westgate cheap - not only from II and RCI - but from Westgate itself.

so why would anyone buy? Westgate can't or won't understand that Westgate sales force & management itself - is the biggest problem.

 

[Hasil72]

I'm with everyone else, don't do it! We were "gifted" a week there from a relative as a wedding gift for our honeymoon. We declined the tour at check in and were placed in the oldest section of the resort. We dealt with the shabbiness and just figured it hadn't been rehabbed yet. At the end of the week they said we had to sign off on some papers to check out. They took us to the newer units to show us what we could have had. After spending hours with 3 different managers trying to explain we were newlyweds and not interested they tried telling me my new husband would be dead before he was 40 because he wouldn't take a vacation. Nice!

 

[Judyat]

We stayed at Westgate Resorts for a week awhile back. It was a great deal. Part of it did include a sales pitch and they will try to sweeten the deal but if you just say no and walk away that's it. We had lunch there and got a gift certificate for dinner next door and some others things. We were expecting lots of pressure but if you say no they will get the message.