Well, DD14 has gone to live with her Dad

tiff211

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:earseek: After much deliberation and talking with DD, her DF and his DW, we all decided it would be in her best interest for her to go and live with him. She left right before Christmas but because she usually spends every other christmas with him, it is just now becoming a reality since she would have been home buy now.

It was a hard decision to make even with her working my last nerve. She has had a rough year or two. She started high school this past Sept and her grades were horrible last semester. We had finally hashed out a lot of our differences but her and DH have not been getting along, she even started calling him by his first name. Dh thinks she has been spoiled and has a hard time with her behavior and the fact that he can't really discipline her the way he would "if she was his DD".

She has 2 other Dsis closer to her age and also a cousin who lives with them as well so she will have companionship. One of the main issues that I have spoken to her dad about is his parents and he admits that they cater to her and have created a monster. He has 2 other DD's and everyone knows My DD is the favorite. Whatever she wants, she gets. It is such a fight with them to understand they are not helping but when I punish her, she embellishes the story and they think I am some monster. For example: My DD3 has surgery in Oct. It was an outpatient scheduled for 1pm but she did not go in until 4:30. It was a long day as we had newborn DD and DD5 with us. I let DD14 know that we would be at the hospital until around dinnertime. At school that day, she was reminded there was no school the next day, so she made arrangements with her grandfather to pick her up so she could sleep over. She is supposed to ask me first and she knows this and so does her DGF. So, she calls my cellphone which is on vibrate since I am in the recovery room with DD3 who is in a lot of pain. I can't get to it since DD3 is on my lap. DD14 had to have called about 10 times. When we are leaving the hospital, she calls again. I answer and tell her quickly that we will be home shortly, we are loading the kids in the car. As soon as I walk in the door, with the baby in her seat, diaper bag, and dd3's bag from the hospital, DD runs over to me and tells me she doesn't have school the next day. I say ok, why is that so important right this second? She says she wanted to sleep over her DGP and she had called her DGF to pick her up. I say to her that she broke two rules, one she was already grounded due to her progress report so she was had no phone privileges and she is supposed to ask me first. She says with much attitude " I tried to call and ask you but you didn't answer your cell". That was it for me, the stress of the day just made me lose it! I just started yelling excuse me for not being able cater to her needs right then. I had already told her that I wouldn't be able to anser my phone at the hospital, Yada, yada, yada. Mind you, I am still at the door, DH has pushed passed me with DD3 who is now crying again. DD5 is crying as well because I woke her up when we got home. I say to DD14, I can't deal with this now, do what you think is best and went to tend to DD3. DD14 called her DGF and he picked her up. The next day, her DGF calls to ask me something but with an attitude. I ask DD14 what was wrong with him and at first she tells me she doesn't know but after some prodding, she tells me she told him she got in trouble for calling me at the hospital!! :earseek: That is a usual situation. She will make me and DH out to be complete monsters to her DGF especially. She used to try it with her DF and DSM but I talk to them very often so they know what's going on and have told her they already know what the deal is.

But anyway, it's going to be tough without her here but i know in the long run, it will pay off.
 
:grouphug: to you...what a difficult decision to make but it sounds like you will be doing what you think is best. I have a teenager and I have to tell you your story sounds so familiar!!!!! (the phone call! My DS17 couldn't get a hold of me about taking the car so he took it anyway without asking! and he had a friend too! (I couldn't answer my phone because I was in the mall and was feeding DS5 months and couldn't get to the phone at the moment.)Grrrr!

but you know what ....the grass is always greener on the other side and I bet she will figure that out soon enough. Take care!


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Lisa
 

:grouphug: I would have probably done the same.
 
:grouphug: :grouphug: Lots of hugs for you.
 
It sounds like your daughter feels like she gets lost in the shuffle of the younger kids' needs. Maybe she felt sad that you were all at the hospital being a family and she was being shut out. Maybe she could have kept the five year old at home?

It's hard enough to be a teen. It's even harder when you have three little sisters who need a lot of attention. Maybe it is best for her to be with other kids her age, where the household is more oriented to older kids.

It doesn't sound like too big of a deal that she wanted to sleep over her grandparents. Maybe she thought she was making it easy for you by getting out of the house.
 
Well you did give her permission to go to the grandparents. "I say to DD14, I can't deal with this now, do what you think is best and went to tend to DD3." And she went. I have read many of your posts. I believe you love all four daughters equally, but it always seemed to me that DD14 was a guest in the house. The family was you, your DH and your three kids by DH. Now that she is with her dad, she has to stay there until the end of high school. It would be too disruptive to her education to keep changing schools. I know that this arrangement will be best for the ones left behind, I hope it is best for her too.
 
tiff211 said:
: We had finally hashed out a lot of our differences but her and DH have not been getting along, she even started calling him by his first name.

What does your DH want her to call him?
 
Karel said:
It sounds like your daughter feels like she gets lost in the shuffle of the younger kids' needs. Maybe she felt sad that you were all at the hospital being a family and she was being shut out. Maybe she could have kept the five year old at home?

It's hard enough to be a teen. It's even harder when you have three little sisters who need a lot of attention. Maybe it is best for her to be with other kids her age, where the household is more oriented to older kids.

It doesn't sound like too big of a deal that she wanted to sleep over her grandparents. Maybe she thought she was making it easy for you by getting out of the house.

She had school that day so her coming with us was not an option.

I was the oldest of 5 younger siblings so I know how "lonely" it can get. They all have each to play with and I can either occupy myself or play on their level.

I didn't think much of her spending the night with her grandparents. it was the fact that she knew she was grounded for bad progess reports so she wasn't supposed to go anywhere or talk on the phone.
 
hentob said:
What does your DH want her to call him?


We got married when she was 8 and she asked us if she could call him Daddy. I told her that would hurt her father's feeling and since he was very much a part of her life, I didn't think it was a good idea. So, she said she wanted to call him "Dad".
 
mickeyfan2 said:
Well you did give her permission to go to the grandparents. "I say to DD14, I can't deal with this now, do what you think is best and went to tend to DD3." And she went. I have read many of your posts. I believe you love all four daughters equally, but it always seemed to me that DD14 was a guest in the house. The family was you, your DH and your three kids by DH. Now that she is with her dad, she has to stay there until the end of high school. It would be too disruptive to her education to keep changing schools. I know that this arrangement will be best for the ones left behind, I hope it is best for her too.

I was upset at the time, partially because she had already made the plans to go over there without my permission.

I agree with what you said about being a guest in the house but it's like that through no one's fault, I'd say. She spends summers and holidays with her dad and every weekend she is either asking to go to her DGP or they are calling asking if she can. A little bit of history, I had her young and since her dad was in college, his parents helped out a lot. This was a blessing but also a curse. She was the DD they couldn't have so they took on the role of her DP instead of DGP. And me being young and dumb, going to school and working, didn't resist. It got to a point where I felt like her sister but since I needed them to help me, ( I even lived with them for about a year), I felt I couldn't say anything. I would dress DD, go upstairs to take a shower, come back downstairs and she would be wearing something different.

When I got my life together and got married, it was/is still a constant struggle to get them to step back a little. She loves to go over there because she comes home with new clothes, sneakers, money EVERY SINGLE time. I tell her no, and she gets it anyway. She told my Dsis that is I tell her she can't have something it's no big deal because her DGP will get it anyway. So, of course she always wants to go over there. So, it's hard for her to be included in that family bond that we are creating in my family. If I tell her she can't go, I get the attitude from her and her DGP. I have bent over backwards to make everyone happy. I even changed our family chrtistmas picture appointment so she could go out of town with them to a birthday party.

I will give you a scenario in which I feel they are doing her an injustice by "spoiling her" She leaves her stuff everywhere, losing it much of the time. EVerytime she goes to their house she leaves something. She will call her DGP and say, "I left my red sweater at your house, I want to wear it tomorrow" and he will drop everything and bring it to her. I feel that if she did without the item she would be more responsible with her things. Not a big deal but goes against my job of teaching her responsiblity.

We all made it very clear that she will be there until H. school is over. We talked everything over in depth to make sure this was the right thing. My DD's adore their sister so it has been tough. The other day, DD3 heard a noise and asked if that was her sister. DD5 said "no, she's not here because I am not 9 yet" DD14 had told her she wouldn't see her again until she was 9. Of course that's not true, DD14 was messing around with her.
 
tiff211 said:
I didn't think much of her spending the night with her grandparents. it was the fact that she knew she was grounded for bad progess reports so she wasn't supposed to go anywhere or talk on the phone.

And yet you still let her go to DGF's house. :confused3 The biggest problem with parents today is kid's know that most of the time they don't mean what they say. I'm sure it was easier to let her go to DGF's but it wasn't better. Kid's want rules, behave better with rules, every parent I know that complains about their kid's have pretty much been non-existent in the rule department since they were young.
 
I hope it all works our for you and DD. It does sound like she felt lost and left out that day but I am assuming that was just sort of a vent on your part and that this decision had a lot of thought and other considerations behind it.

I just wanted to say though that my kids GPs would also drop everything and bring anything hte kids wanted. I do understand though about the boundaries between being parents and being Grandparents. THat would be a hard situation to be in.
 
mickman1962 said:
And yet you still let her go to DGF's house. :confused3 The biggest problem with parents today is kid's know that most of the time they don't mean what they say. I'm sure it was easier to let her go to DGF's but it wasn't better. Kid's want rules, behave better with rules, every parent I know that complains about their kid's have pretty much been non-existent in the rule department since they were young.

Usually, I do not bend on the rules. However, that day, I couldn't take on one more thing. I had a newborn, so I was exhausted on a normal day, but that day, we were at the hospital from 10am until 6pm. DD3 was in so much pain and crying from the time she woke up until we got home and she went back to sleep. I had reached my limits and I knew if I had to "argue" with DD14 about why she couldn't sleep over and then get the call from her GF about why she couldn't go, I would have really lost. Maybe not the best decision but I pick my battles and I didn't have it in me to deal with it. DH was upset with me for letting her go as well so trust me, it was one of those "I can't deal" moments.
 


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