Weird thing happened at POP

[VSL]

I disagree with A Mickeyfan. If you're in a non-smoking room, tough luck - you should move away from the rooms (go to the car park maybe?) if you want to smoke, not smoke in a room where someone with allergies or whatever may be staying after you. Is that so hard? I don't think smoking in a non-smoking room because there were no smoking rooms left is legitimate at all.

OTOH.. how can it be enforced? I would have gone through the hassle of moving (and if it happens to me at ASMo, I will be!).

The toilet paper.. that's just disgusting

 

[CaliforniaDreaming]

Before this goes too far, everyone please remember to be nice.

 

[CheshireVal]

That toilet paper thing is definitely weird, AND gross. I would definitely suspect the maids might have done it to get back at you for demanding a certain housekeeping time. Definitely not excusable, but I imagine that maids at WDW are like teachers in the real world: nothing they do is ever right. I've read a ton of threads complaining about housekeeping coming too early in the morning. Then you have people who hate it when they come to clean the room during naptime, at 1pm. And then there are people who are irritated when they come back at 3pm and the room isn't clean. I mean, they can't please everyone!

As for the smoking.... as the self-proclaimed queen and expert on sinus infections, I find it odd that smoke drifting from the bathroom next door would be so bad as to cause a sinus infection. I'm presuming that your daughter didn't spend inordinate amounts of time in the bathroom! And... if she is so allergic to smoke that the little bathroom thing alone did cause a terrible infection, then I'm wondering why you didn't just change rooms when you had the chance?

 

[srfrgrl07]

I have to agree with the smoking issue...but of course hindsight is 20/20. If you had known that it was going to make her sick, you would have moved. Disney unfortunately cannot have a security guard outside every room policing the rules, and inconsiderate people in the room next to you could not have been controlled by Disney. I am a smoker, but I would never smoke in a nonsmoking room due to the fact that someone after me could be affected by it. Yes, it's a (nasty) habit, but that does not excuse smoking in a designated non smoking room. I go outsied.

As far as the TP issue is concerned, I also agree that it is nasty. If it makes you feel better, write a letter. The resort did address the issue, though, and I'm not sure what else they can do except require that housekeeping double check that the TP rolls they replace in a room are clean. (if they don't already!) I see why people may speculate that it was due to your requests, but that is pure speculation and maybe the TP arrived from the supplier like that??!! I don't know, it could be anything, simply speculation at this point but I'm sure based on your account that the manager seemed perplexed that they have already looked into it.

I'm sorry that you had such unpleasant experiences, but I applaud you for your calm attitude and keeping a level head about this. Some people would scream at the top of their lungs and create a scene which really doesn't help the situation any and makes the CM less willing to help, IMO. Would you want to help someone who is calm and pleasant or screaming at you calling you names? I know who I would rather help.

 

[tjmouse]

I have to agree with the smoking thing. If you smoke (which I do) and you get a non-smoking room (which I have) you need to go outside away from people. I am not saying you have to go into the parking lot, but make sure you are courteous. Unfortunately, the people who smoke in non-smoking rooms or everywhere in the parks instead of in the designated areas most likely don't read these boards and are not die-hard Disney fans like us. Otherwise they would realize that they were ruining the magic for others.

 

[PooohBear]

That's terrible that your DD got sick on vacation, I do have to ask though, how does cigarette smoke cause sinus infections ????

 

[tinagirl]

Basically, if you are allergic to it, or have minor repiratory issues already (especially asthma), it will cause a large layer of very thick mucus to build up on the inside lining of your nasal passages. Your body is already sensitive to such things, so it reacts in a worse case scenario way.

Basically, your body mistakes the smoke as an invader, and flags the "all attack", causing your body to try to fight off the reaction, which just causes MORE mucus to build up (as it's trying to quarantine the bad stuff), and basically stuffs you up so bad you can't breathe at all.

-Welcome to the world of an asthmatic.

 

[tlbwriter]

I have requested smoking (when he comes with me) and have ended up in a non smoking room. What should a person do then?

The same thing he'd do if you were a guest in someone's home and they asked you not to smoke in the house. I presume he wouldn't smoke in the bathroom, right? I agree that it's unfortunate that they'd put you in a non-smoking room if you requested smoking. But that smoker has more control over his situation than the non-smoker who ends up stuck next to him, inhaling his smoke because he smoked in the bathroom. HVAC systems are funny. My office gets smells directly from the breakroom, which is across the building. If you burn popcorn in the microwave, it smells worse in my office than it does two doors down from the breakroom. I'm sure the resorts have similar air handling oddities. Never assume your smoke isn't going beyond your own walls.

 

[A Mickeyfan]

I disagree with A Mickeyfan. If you're in a non-smoking room, tough luck - you should move away from the rooms (go to the car park maybe?) if you want to smoke, not smoke in a room where someone with allergies or whatever may be staying after you. Is that so hard? I don't think smoking in a non-smoking room because there were no smoking rooms left is legitimate at all.

OTOH.. how can it be enforced? I would have gone through the hassle of moving (and if it happens to me at ASMo, I will be!).

The toilet paper.. that's just disgusting

I respect your opinion but if you request a smoking room it isn't your fault you didn't get it... smoking is an addiction & why should someone that has paid the same amount as another guest have to be inconvienced by having to go to the car to smoke? Is the non smokers money better than the smokers? No it isn't right to smoke in a non smoking room when you haven't requested a smoking, but why should the smoker be punished if he can't get what he requested? What give one person more of a right than another? Disney knows very well that person is going to smoke in that non smoking room when they give it to them.. Disney should be doing something about it, not the guest that has paid to stay there...no it isn't the smokers tuff luck, it is the person that doesn't want to smell it's problem, Yes, that is a legit reason. Maybe not in your eyes but it is to the smoker...
As far as the person with allergies, what about the service dogs? I have an allergy to fleas. I was bite up in a room (not sure if definatly fleas or bed bugs). Should I state that someone needing a service dog not stay in a room that I will be in? Same logic isn't it?
Smoking is a nasty addictive habbit, but why should the smoker be punished for something beyond his controll. If I am paying $100 -$200 per night & we don't get a smoking room, my husband isnt' walking to the car each time he wants to light one up... sorry but as I said, I respect your opinion but I will not send my husband to the car to smoke. You can always request to be moved to another non smoking room. There isn't another room for them to move us to... unless they wanted to move us to a different resort.. As I said, maybe Disney needs to increase the amount of smoking rooms.... I am positve there are others that feel as I do. We may be in the minority. You all can see that there is a need for it, just by having the smoker smoke in a non smoking room is the clue! What did guests do before they started the smoking & non smoking rooms? There weren't always non smoking rooms around...it use to be all smoking at one time...... many many years ago.

 

[A Mickeyfan]

That's terrible that your DD got sick on vacation, I do have to ask though, how does cigarette smoke cause sinus infections ????

I was thinking the same thing. My son has asthma & my husband is a smoker. My son has never suffered from a sinus infection (me on the other hand, I get them every few months & can't get rid of them, maybe it is from my husband & son's smoking in the laini ). His breathing problems is from the chest. My husband doesn't smoke in the house, except for the bathroom & back laini now. My son is now 19, astmatic & smokes himself. No, I don't agree with him smoking, but not much I can do (he is of age and dosen't smoke in the house either..only the laini....
He seems to have more severe attacks from cat hair & chemical smells than cig's. But everyone is different with the asthma. Just last month he was placed on 3 different meds & had to monitor his breathing...

 

[Belle5]

I was thinking about the gross TP incident. Doesn't mousekeeping usually display the TP in some artful way--like folding the corners under or something? If it happened at the manufacturer wouldn't mousekeeping have caught it when folding back those corners?

Sorry for your trouble. I would have been so sickened and then angry! My toddler loves to unwind the TP rolls. What if a child had decided to play with that roll??????

 

[VSL]

The same thing he'd do if you were a guest in someone's home and they asked you not to smoke in the house. I presume he wouldn't smoke in the bathroom, right? I agree that it's unfortunate that they'd put you in a non-smoking room if you requested smoking. But that smoker has more control over his situation than the non-smoker who ends up stuck next to him, inhaling his smoke because he smoked in the bathroom.

Yeah, that ^^^


Your service animals analogy isn't a fair comparison.

There are non-smoking and smoking rooms.
There are not non-service-animals and service-animals rooms.

Smokers can leave the immediate premises.
People requiring service animals are different - they require the animal, whereas smokers do not require to smoke.

I'm well aware that smoking is an addiction.. but's not my fault that that person gets addicted and then I have to suffer for it.

I respect your opinion, but you're in the wrong.
Trying to justify it by saying it's an addiction is ridiculous IMO, because the addiction can be dealt with elsewhere. An addiction is not a necessity.

 

[CheshireVal]

That's terrible that your DD got sick on vacation, I do have to ask though, how does cigarette smoke cause sinus infections ????

It can't. If you are severely allergic to cigarette smoke, it can trigger your allergies and eventually cause a sinus infection. That's why I was questioning why they chose to stay in the room. If the daughter is so allergic to smoke that a tiny smell of it from the bathroom could make her really sick, they could have taken up the offer for another room and moved.

If she's not allergic to the smoke, then the sinus infection was caused by something else. Usually they build from colds.

 

[tlbwriter]

I respect your opinion but if you request a smoking room it isn't your fault you didn't get it... smoking is an addiction & why should someone that has paid the same amount as another guest have to be inconvienced by having to go to the car to smoke? Is the non smokers money better than the smokers? No it isn't right to smoke in a non smoking room when you haven't requested a smoking, but why should the smoker be punished if he can't get what he requested? What give one person more of a right than another?

It's that whole "your right to swing your fist ends where my face begins" argument. If the smoking harmed no one but your husband, I'd agree with you. But if the smoke is not confined to the smoker's room, it's impossible for him to exercise his right to smoke without affecting someone else. Your husband can go stand in a smoking area to smoke. The person in the room next to yours has no comparable area to sleep. His room is supposed to be that area. The inconvenience to the non-smoker is more severe than the inconvenience to the smoker. Not being able to light up in your bathroom isn't as bad as not being able to sleep in your bed. For your husband to pump smoke (even if it's not deliberate) into a non smoking room is just as bad as a non smoker who stands by the smoking area with a garden hose to spray anyone who lights up.

Your husband has the right to request a room he can smoke in. If such a room is not available, he has the choice of staying elsewhere, or staying in his room and not smoking in it. Deciding to make his own smoking room is selfish.

 

[Rayn]

Hey, if the smoke was that bad, why didn't you move rooms?

 

[ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!]

The whole smoking issue is one thing, but Im surprised (with the amount of complaining Ive seen on this board for petty things) noone is really freaked out about the toilet paper situation. That has got to be the most disgusting thing Ive ever read on here. If that happened to me, I would have demanded Al freakin Weiss (President ofthe Resorts) to come to the scene and investigate that. Thats just absolutely gross and has NO place in WDW.

Honestly, In that situation I would have demaded for a full refund and just book a room somewhere else. Wow, how gross.

 

[frayedend]

I am not sticking up for anyone that smokes in a non-smoking room, but there are not that many smoking rooms. There are times that they give you non-smoking even when requesting smoking. My husband smokes, I don't. I hate when he smokes in the same room that I am in. I have requested smoking (when he comes with me) and have ended up in a non smoking room. What should a person do then? He has smoked in the bathroom. If he stands outside the doorway it is even worse because then anyone walking past walks thru the smoke. The last time we stayed at Pop was Oct 1-4th requested smoking, got non-smoking. When I book a deluxe, I ask for smoking & since they have balconies, he will smoke there. When I book mod or value (no balconies) & request smoking & I have him smoke in the bathroom. Trust me, I understand what you are saying. My son has asthma & when he was younger, I couldn't have my husband in the house with a cig! My mom has lung cancer from the darn things. I hate it more than anything, so as I said, I am not sticking up for smokers that do it on purpose, but there are times that they end up in a non-smoking room & they do have as much right to a room preference as anyone else. Smoking is a nasty habbit & it is very addictive, so to give a smoker a non-smoking room and expect them not to smoke in it is not too swift I don't have an answer as to what can be done. Should they make more rooms for smokers? Maybe.....
Again, I am not saying what happened to you was right, but there may have been a legit reason.... The smoker wants a smoking room & can't get it, you want a non-smoking room & get stuck with the smell.... It may have been better if you did move your room??? Your DD may not have gotten sick. I have had to move at Pop because the room I was in (for 3 days) I got bite up in at night. I thought it was bed bugs, I was told by front desk it could have been fleas. I am allergic to fleas... I had welts all over my legs. Fleas... I asked the front desk clerk with a puzzled look. She said yes could be from a previous guest with a service dog. Once she said that & offered to move me, I jumped on it. I packed everything up, they moved it for me. The remainder of my stay (4 more nights) were flea (or bed bug) free....

As far as the toilet paper thing, Yuk!!!!! That would have made me sick for the remainder of the trip. I would hate to think that housekeeping would do that on spite.... even moving your room wouldn't have solved that problem. That can get someone even more sick than the smell of smoke. That actually carries germs & whatnot in it....

I'm just as likely as anyone to stick up for smokers, but really... If I need a smoke in any hotel, smoking or non-smoking room I can make it outside. I don't need to hide in the bathroom. Especially with a Disney resort with all the kids. I never smoke in my own house and wouldn't do it at a hotel either.

One thing I disagree with is the Doctor saying the smoke caused a sinus infection. That is just trash talk. Smoke does not carry viruses with it any more than human breath. Allergies and asthma are a different case, but sinus infection, I doubt it.

The TP thing is gross and probably was because of the special cleaning time request. Disciplinary action should have been taken immediately because now it is probably too late to see who actually cleaned the room.

 

[MandaPerry]

Regarding the TP thing. You said your daughter unwrapped the new roll and found it covered with feces? Which means someone had to unwrap - cover it and then re-wrap roll with such care that you would not notice it until it was unwrapped again? There was no smell or anything that may have tipped your daughter off? No discoloration of the paper? Surprising, but if it was me I wouldn't call it weird I would have called it revolting and all the major Disney executives would have heard from me by now!

 

[Sammie]

Regarding the TP thing. You said your daughter unwrapped the new roll and found it covered with feces? Which means someone had to unwrap - cover it and then re-wrap roll with such care that you would not notice it until it was unwrapped again? There was no smell or anything that may have tipped your daughter off? No discoloration of the paper? Surprising, but if it was me I wouldn't call it weird I would have called it revolting and all the major Disney executives would have heard from me by now!

I was thinking the same thing, as the extra rolls come wrapped in paper and the ends are sealed. So unless someone was really trying to cover this up, maybe it orginated at the TP manufacturer.

 

[PrincessKitty1]

One thing I disagree with is the Doctor saying the smoke caused a sinus infection. That is just trash talk. Smoke does not carry viruses with it any more than human breath. Allergies and asthma are a different case, but sinus infection, I doubt it.

For anybody (but most likely for people with a smoke allergy), the smoke can cause swelling and irritation in your sinuses, making you more susceptible to bacterial infections.

This can happen with viruses too--you catch a cold, think you're getting over it, and wham! You suddenly get worse with a bacterial upper or lower respiratory infection. The virus has irritated your airways enough to allow bacteria easier entry. (BTW I used to average 1-2 sinus infections/bronchitis a year before I started using nasal steroids for my allergies).