WDW Vet...Many questions!!!

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Hi Everyone,
I'm a DVC WDW Vet from the East Coast...
Just book DGCV for July 6-11!!!
Very Excited first West Coast trip: Me (50) Bringing Mom (young 79, DS 18 (graduation trip))
The Plan:
4 day NO HOPPER, 2 Days Each Park (I want to see every inch!) Will purchase LL if necessary
1 day LA TOUR Pickup from Hotel and Return to Hotel.
What are the must eat, (I already heard Churros) But are any restaurants a must for a reservation???
see and ride, that is different? (I know Mr. Toad and Pinnochio)
Been looking at a lot of threads to get ideas but would love some one stop shopping...
Any ideas if any after dark events will be happening then?
Is it worth it to make a dinner res that includes WOC viewing?
ANY INFO IS APPRECIATED!!!
 
This is something I post regularly that can help WDW vets know what to prioritize if they want to see the unique to DL/CA stuff.

DL Exclusive Attractions:
Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Forbidden Eye (uses same ride system as DINOSAUR at AK)
Snow White's Enchanted Wish
Pinocchio's Daring Journey
Mister Toad's Wild Ride
Casey Jr. Circus Train
Storybook Land Canal Boats
Alice in Wonderland
Sleeping Beauty Castle Walkthrough
Roger Rabbit's Car-Toon Spin
Chip & Dale's Gadget Coaster
Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage
The Matterhorn (note this uses the same ride system as Space Mountain at MK)
Space Mountain (same theme but completely different ride)

DL Similar but not exactly the same:
Enchanted Tiki Room - longer show
Jungle Cruise - No temple/tunnel, a bit shorter
Pirates of the Caribbean - longer with more show scenes
Haunted Mansion - even without the Nightmare overlay it is slightly different
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh - quite simalar, though vehicles are different cosmetically - look for a CBJ easter egg!
Big Thunder Mountain - some additional effects and scenery
it's a small world - very similar though with Disney cahracter peppered in - it does have a much nicer exterior.
Autopia - much longer than the Tomorrowland Speedway, but basically the same
Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters - removable laser blasters make it a little better (Note that this is soon coming to the WDW version)

DL Exactly (or basically) the same:
Peter Pan's Flight - technically some minor differences
Dumbo
King Aruthur Carousel
Milennium Falcon: Smugglers Run - all of Galaxy's Edge is practically identical
Rise of the Resistance
Mad Tea Party
Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway - The queue is very different and cool - may be new to you and is worth it if so.
Star Tours
Astro Orbitor - though at ground level

CA Exclusive Attractions:
Monsters Inc. Mike & Sully to the Rescue
Guardians of the Galaxy: Mission Breakout - based on Tower of Terror, though the DL version works a little differently
WEB Slingers
Radiator Springs Racers - this is like a massively bigger Test Track
Luigi's Rollicking Roadsters
Incredicoaster
Inside-Out Emotional Whirlwind
Silly Symphony Swings - though this is an off-the shelf "wave swinger" ride
Jumpin' Jellyfish
Golden Zephyr
Goofy's Sky School

CA Similar but not exactly the same:
Mater's Junkyard Jamboree - the same as Alien Swirling Saucers
Grizzly River Run - longer version of Kali River Rapids - definitely a wet ride!

CA Exactly (or basically) the same:
Mickey's Philharmagic! - smaller screen though
Turtle Talk with Crush
Ariel's Undersea Adventure - same as Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid
Jessie's Critter Carousel
Soarin' - sometimes they run the original Sorain' over California, but also note that the new "America" version is coming soon.
 

Some of my favorite places to eat:

DL: Tropical Hideaway (Bao Buns), Cafe Orleans, though if you are doing Blue Bayou, they are similar
CA: Award Weiners, Aunt Cass Cafe (sourdough)

My favorite snack is the Matterhorn Macaroon from Jolly Holiday, and you can't go wrong with the churros - note that they have various flavors at the different carts and they are changed out sometimes. I don't think you can go wrong though!
 
I second the suggestion for parkhopping. My in-laws recently did a one-day trip to the parks and although they were tired at the end of the day, they were glad for the flexibility that parkhopping allowed. My mother-in-law is about to be 77. I am 51 and regularly enjoy parkhopping during our multi-day park visits. The two parks' entrance gates are very close to each other.
 
I will third the park hopping recommendation. We are WDW vets and never park hop there. We always park hop at DLR. The parks are side by side so treat them as one big park. It's highly likely you will want to hop to maximize your schedule, especially for entertainment.
 
I'll 4th the hopping recommendation. I would really only advocate for non hoppers if you have very small children with you, or those with extreme mobility issues. Its nice to have the flexibility to hop if one park is ridiculously crowded. Also, DCA closes before DL, so we usually hop back to DL for those last few hours.
 
5th the park hoppers, unless you're really on a budget. We always go 5 days and still park hop. It's very convenient and chances are you'll want to spend more time in one park than the other, or there'll be one ride you'll want to go on one last time that you can't if you don't have hoppers. We always end up spending more time in DL than DCA. So much more to see and do there.

I think your 79 year-old guest will especially agree with this, as DCA tends to be more young-adult/kid/teen oriented as far as attractions go. Many more thrill-type rides vs atmosphere-type rides at DL. That's a generalization, of course, but I still think it's true. Chances are she will also be much more familiar with the characters and franchises, etc. at DL than DCA (classic Disney--Peter Pan, Pooh, most of the princesses vs Avengers/Marvel/Cars, etc).
 
4 day NO HOPPER, 2 Days Each Park (I want to see every inch!) Will purchase LL if necessary
You will likely want more than two days to see every inch of Disneyland, especially if you do not purchase LLMP. It depends on whether you are planning on long sit-down meals but, in general, two days should be enough to see every inch of DCA.

As @mom2rtk mentioned, the majority of entertainment is in DL. In July, DL will have Paint the Night, Wondrous Journeys fireworks, Fantasmic, Fire of the Rising Moon, Shadows of Memory, Tapestry of Happiness and the 70th Cavalcade. DCA will have World of Color.

1 day LA TOUR Pickup from Hotel and Return to Hotel.
Sounds like a long day. Don't consider it a break.

What are the must eat, (I already heard Churros) But are any restaurants a must for a reservation??? see and ride, that is different? (I know Mr. Toad and Pinnochio)
Brian shared his amazing list. Note that Soarin' over America will start on July 2. Expect the lines for that attraction to be very, very long.
Popular restaurants requiring reservations include: Blue Bayou, Cafe Orleans, Carnation Cafe, Lamplight Lounge, Carthay Circle, and character meals. Napa Rose might be open by the time you visit.

Any ideas if any after dark events will be happening then?
Here is a link to a list of events happening at DLR that month. https://www.disboards.com/threads/2...icial-unofficial-events.3976081/post-66459429

Is it worth it to make a dinner res that includes WOC viewing?
WOC dinner reservations include a ticket to a reserved area where guests can stand for the show. Dinner reservations can be made at either Wine Country Trattoria or Storytellers (GCH). There aren't specific WOC reservations. You just let the waiter know that you would like the WOC package. https://disneyland.disney.go.com/dining/disney-california-adventure/world-of-color-dining/

WOC dessert party allows guests to sit at tables to watch the show. Desserts and drinks are served just before the show begins. https://disneyland.disney.go.com/dining/disney-california-adventure/world-of-color-dessert-party/

Note: The WOC dinner reservations do not include tax and tip, while the dessert party does. I believe WOC Storytellers Dining is $79 before tax and tip. Disney includes an 18% tip on the dessert package. If one were to add 18% tip and tax to the $79 Storyteller dining, it comes out to $94 - the same price as the dessert party. Granted one is dinner and the other is dessert but one has seating for the show and one is standing.
 
Definitely consider adding park hoppers to your tickets. DL and DCA are so close to one another - it's about 100 steps to walk between the two so it'll take maybe a minute or two. I used to describe it as the length of the walkway between Future World and World Showcase in Epcot.

There's so much more to do in DL so having hoppers will give you the flexibility of moving between parks if one gets busy, if you make LL reservations at the other park or nighttime entertainment must sees. Also DCA closes earlier than DL so hoppers will let you extend your day by going back to DL.

Brian L's list above is excellent. We can now add that DL still has the Rivers of America, Tom Sawyer's Island, the Mark Twain riverboat, the rafts to Tom Sawyer's Island, the canoes, and the Columbia sailing ship.
 
You will likely want more than two days to see every inch of Disneyland, especially if you do not purchase LLMP. It depends on whether you are planning on long sit-down meals but, in general, two days should be enough to see every inch of DCA.

As @mom2rtk mentioned, the majority of entertainment is in DL. In July, DL will have Paint the Night, Wondrous Journeys fireworks, Fantasmic, Fire of the Rising Moon, Shadows of Memory, Tapestry of Happiness and the 70th Cavalcade. DCA will have World of Color.


Sounds like a long day. Don't consider it a break.


Brian shared his amazing list. Note that Soarin' over America will start on July 2. Expect the lines for that attraction to be very, very long.
Popular restaurants requiring reservations include: Blue Bayou, Cafe Orleans, Carnation Cafe, Lamplight Lounge, Carthay Circle, and character meals. Napa Rose might be open by the time you visit.


Here is a link to a list of events happening at DLR that month. https://www.disboards.com/threads/2...icial-unofficial-events.3976081/post-66459429


WOC dinner reservations include a ticket to a reserved area where guests can stand for the show. Dinner reservations can be made at either Wine Country Trattoria or Storytellers (GCH). There aren't specific WOC reservations. You just let the waiter know that you would like the WOC package. https://disneyland.disney.go.com/dining/disney-california-adventure/world-of-color-dining/

WOC dessert party allows guests to sit at tables to watch the show. Desserts and drinks are served just before the show begins. https://disneyland.disney.go.com/dining/disney-california-adventure/world-of-color-dessert-party/

Note: The WOC dinner reservations do not include tax and tip, while the dessert party does. I believe WOC Storytellers Dining is $79 before tax and tip. Disney includes an 18% tip on the dessert package. If one were to add 18% tip and tax to the $79 Storyteller dining, it comes out to $94 - the same price as the dessert party. Granted one is dinner and the other is dessert but one has seating for the show and one is standing.
20+ year WDW vet here who probably loves Disneyland more than Walt Disney World.

To piggy back on this, the dessert party for World of Color is NOTHING like Walt Disney World dessert parties. You get a box of food. You get one alcoholic drink. The reason to do the party is for the reserved seating and really only the reserved seating. If you search the boards, you can find pictures of what the food looks like. It’s nice, but it’s really kind of crummy if you’re used to what is offered at Walt Disney World dessert parties. All that said, with even a young 79 year old, the actual seats may be worth the money. All of the dedicated viewing areas (including with the non-dessert dining packages) require you to stand.

I will also recommend getting park hoppers. I also recommend Lightning Lane Multi Pass. It’s a MUCH easier system at Disneyland. Essentially, it’s still Genie+ but with the updated nomenclature. No advance booking - you can only book once your ticket has been used for entry. It frees up availability. It is also used at significantly fewer attractions. With the Hopper, when you buy it, it can be used at both parks. The only limitation is you can’t book for the other park until after 11am, since that’s when you can begin park hopping.

Don’t forget that Disneyland still requires park reservations. Because you’re onsite, you’ll have a wider availability, but you still need a reservation.

Resort package delivery is available at Disneyland.

Security is a serious drag. It’s still bag checks and metal detectors and it can take a while. If you’re a rope drop kind of family, get in line EARLY, or you will be at the tail end of a VERY long line. Use the Downtown Disney entrance to get to the California Adventure main gate when rope dropping California Adventure. It’s quicker and more efficient than using the park entrance from the hotel.

Walt Disney World Pirates and Disneyland Pirates share some of the same scenes, but I contend they are not the same. It’s the difference between reading the novel and reading the Spark notes. Or between seeing a made-for-TV movie and going to the movies for a big budget feature. You have to see the Disneyland version.

Quick service dining is so much better at Disneyland while sit down dining is kind of meh. Go to Blue Bayou for the atmosphere and experience. If you go for the food, you’ll be disappointed. It’s very expensive and the quality isn’t commensurate with the price.

Lamplight Lounge is fantastic. People rave about the lobster nachos. While they were good, we thought the highlight was the house made donuts. The menu switches - I think now the donuts are served at Lamplight Boardwalk. Check out the menus and see which one appeals to you more. Both Lamplight and Lamplight Boardwalk are in the same place, but you can’t order off the other one’s menu.

Mobile Order is MUCH more widespread than at Walt Disney World. It’s fantastic. Use it and save yourself time waiting in line.

Even in July, the weather will let you breathe. Sure, it’s hot. But not like Florida hot. There have been times I needed a sweatshirt once the sun has gone down. It’s so much easier to deal with the heat without the oppressive humidity. Have a sweatshirt for the evenings. Just in case. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

You will love Disneyland. Have a fantastic trip.
 
The only limitation is you can’t book for the other park until after 11am, since that’s when you can begin park hopping.
You can only use it to book attractions at the other park when the LL arrival time is after 11 am. You do not need to be in the park of choice to book the LL. For example, if your reservation is for DL and you want to book Guardians (DCA) at noon, you can do that from DL before 11 am. To do that, you will need to change your park of choice on the app so that you can view the availability of LL in the other park.

Lamplight Lounge is fantastic. People rave about the lobster nachos. While they were good, we thought the highlight was the house made donuts.
The Lamplight Lounge restaurant (downstairs) no longer serves nachos. Nachos are only available at the Lamplight Lounge Boardwalk Dining (upstairs). Both restaurants take reservations. Personally, I think the Craftsman Bar/Grill nachos are better than Lamplight.
 
Personally, I think the Craftsman Bar/Grill nachos are better than Lamplight.

I haven’t had the nachos at Lamplight, but the ones at Craftsman are clearly catered toward a local palate - they are hot, hot, hot! Priced around $25 but the portion is huge. The photo below omits the sauce and jalapeños.
 

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As someone who has been to WDW 75ish times and DL 25ish times (APs at both places over the years despite living in MA) I'm going to disagree with the masses and encourage you to skip the hopper and use the money saved for LL. I think it's a much better use of funds. You'll have no problem riding everything at both parks with much less waiting in line.
 
To piggy back on this, the dessert party for World of Color is NOTHING like Walt Disney World dessert parties. You get a box of food. You get one alcoholic drink. The reason to do the party is for the reserved seating and really only the reserved seating. If you search the boards, you can find pictures of what the food looks like. It’s nice, but it’s really kind of crummy if you’re used to what is offered at Walt Disney World dessert parties. All that said, with even a young 79 year old, the actual seats may be worth the money. All of the dedicated viewing areas (including with the non-dessert dining packages) require you to stand.
We brought my 80+ year old dad last Christmas and the dessert party was well, well worth the $ just to be able to sit and have a GREAT view of the show. The desserts were actually *fine* and I think we had up to 2 drinks but if you want a second one you really need to order both as soon as they come around. It was cold that night and the hot cider and hot chocolates were well worth it.

We did also do a Fanstasmic dining package and you're expected to sit on the ground in a preferred area, but given my dad was pretty elderly, we did ask if there were seating areas that would work better for him, and we were shown to an area that also accommodate scooters, but also had tables and chairs. It was great. If your older person has some mobility issues, it is worth asking about.

I just looked at dining for WOC and initially thought it might be like the Candlelight processional dining packages, but NOPE. it's to stand in a better standing area. Not going to do that even with my family of 4. (The show is really great, and there isn't anything like it at WDW, but it's hard to come down from the reserved seating for the dessert party to standing, plus East Coast jet lag...)
I will also recommend getting park hoppers. I also recommend Lightning Lane Multi Pass. It’s a MUCH easier system at Disneyland. Essentially, it’s still Genie+ but with the updated nomenclature. No advance booking - you can only book once your ticket has been used for entry. It frees up availability. It is also used at significantly fewer attractions. With the Hopper, when you buy it, it can be used at both parks. The only limitation is you can’t book for the other park until after 11am, since that’s when you can begin park hopping.
Last Christmas we did splurge for hoppers and LLMP which you should purchase in advance (when you buy your ticket). Also, unlike WDW, you need to buy it for the whole duration of your ticket.
 
Hi Everyone,
I'm a DVC WDW Vet from the East Coast...
Just book DGCV for July 6-11!!!
Very Excited first West Coast trip: Me (50) Bringing Mom (young 79, DS 18 (graduation trip))
The Plan:
4 day NO HOPPER, 2 Days Each Park (I want to see every inch!) Will purchase LL if necessary
1 day LA TOUR Pickup from Hotel and Return to Hotel.
What are the must eat, (I already heard Churros) But are any restaurants a must for a reservation???
see and ride, that is different? (I know Mr. Toad and Pinnochio)
Been looking at a lot of threads to get ideas but would love some one stop shopping...
Any ideas if any after dark events will be happening then?
Is it worth it to make a dinner res that includes WOC viewing?
ANY INFO IS APPRECIATED!!!

I am also DVC, and usually spend 4 weeks a year at WDW, but my trip to Disneyland is April 26-May 2. Have you looked into purchasing the Membership Magic Beyond to get the discounted Disneyland ticket that includes hopping and LLMP? I would also like to do 4 park days. The ticket they advertise right now is only for 3 days, but I am going to see if it is possible to add a 4th. My last visit to the CA parks was in 2019, and it was great being able to cross over to the other park if the one you were in was starting to feel too busy. I am hoping for better luck in Fantasyland this time - last time there were so many attractions down for maintenance or just closed for the day. And unless something has changed, you may be surprised at how small the walkways are in Fantasyland!
 


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