WDW to prevent AP holders from visiting parks many mornings

[SL6827]

Where there is smoke, there is usually fire. I imagine that there is something to this. How much, we don't know. But with Disney's track record here lately, I would guess something will come of this.

 

[Sandisw]

Where there is smoke, there is usually fire. I imagine that there is something to this. How much, we don't know. But with Disney's track record here lately, I would guess something will come of this.

I think most believe that there is a good chance we will see afternoon and evening reservations for AP holders.

It’s whether or not one believes this is going to be a good thing and enhance options.

 

[SL6827]

I think most believe that there is a good chance we will see afternoon and evening reservations for AP holders.

It’s whether or not one believes this is going to be a good thing and enhance options.

Right. It might be for some, but terrible for others. But it will always be in Disney's best interest regardless.

 

[mickeyluv'r]

I’m waiting for more information from more official sources. I can’t help remembering when the earliest reports of FP+ came out - the word was “You can only get 3 a day!!” And of course that turned out to be incomplete - you could only book 3 a day in advance but weren’t limited to a maximum of 3 each day. So I’m not getting all riled up yet, even though we too often stay offsite.

Haven't read the full thread yet, and probably someone beat me to it, but initially FP+ WAS limited to just 3 per day.

FP+ changed over time. Early FP+ was before MDE, so you couldn't even change a pass except via the in-park kiosks.

 

[mickeyluv'r]

I agree as well, however the Disney Insider on the other forum thinks, that disney thinks, that this solves the lawsuit issue. (Sorry if that sentence was hard to read!)

The person who started that thread....claims to be an insider, and maybe is, but I also tend to take his posts with a grain of salt, because he says some things that are a little questionable if you read many of his posts. I get the impression he works at WDW, but maybe not that high up...so some of what he says is more his opinion/impression based on limited information than hard-core fact.

Supposedly, the gist of this AP change is that WDW is still having staffing issues. At 2pm, people park hop, so WDW has to staff transportation, park gates extra.

Supposedly part of why they want to do this is to spread out park hopping a bit more.

 

[CarolynFH]

Haven't read the full thread yet, and probably someone beat me to it, but initially FP+ WAS limited to just 3 per day.

FP+ changed over time. Early FP+ was before MDE, so you couldn't even change a pass except via the in-park kiosks.

That’s not what I remember. I remember being able to book 3 FP+ prior to our trips and then being able to book more, one at a time, after using those 3.

The point is, often these reports of changes are incomplete and give only a partial glimpse of the changes coming.

 

[Sandisw]

Right. It might be for some, but terrible for others. But it will always be in Disney's best interest regardless.

If it happens the way it seems to be stated from the original person, it would simply add afternoon and evening choices.

It means any AP holder who now books a whole day and doesn’t need the morning, can leave that for other pass holders who do want to go.

So, it really doesn’t seem like it’s going to do anything other than give current pass holders the ability to hold more reservations at once than they can today.

If someone goes all day, nothing has been suggested that that is going away.

Of course it will be good for Disney. They are a business.

 

[SL6827]

I wonder if it will lead into day and night tickets for other guest in the future?

 

[whiteness]

Of course it will be good for Disney. They are a business.

100% agree. And I also agree that Disney doing something good for Disney can also benefit Passholders, too.

I also believe that Disney will preferentially make changes that also benefit Passholders and other guests, all else being equal. Disney is not run by Dr. Evil (any resemblance is purely coincidental.)

I hope Disney will find a way to make this a beneficial change for most passholders, most of the time. I'm not sure they can, but it would be great if they could. I'm really curious to see what they have in store for us.

 

[Sandisw]

100% agree. And I also agree that Disney doing something good for Disney can also benefit Passholders, too.

I also believe that Disney will preferentially make changes that also benefit Passholders and other guests, all else being equal. Disney is not run by Dr. Evil (any resemblance is purely coincidental.)

I hope Disney will find a way to make this a beneficial change for most passholders, most of the time. I'm not sure they can, but it would be great if they could. I'm really curious to see what they have in store for us.

I agree and they do have the data of when AP holders are tapping into the system so as I said at one point, it’s very possible they know how to work it so more AP holders seem to get in more often and still allow them to use their bucket system!!!

And I think your comment that something can be good for them and have a positive consequence for guests as the same time is spot on!!!!

 

[kes601]

I wonder if it will lead into day and night tickets for other guest in the future?

They already do that -- they have Halloween and Christmas parties. Pre-covid there was After Hours on various nights at all the parks. They are essentially night tickets. I doubt we'll see it in the manner you are really referring to though.

 

[SL6827]

They already do that -- they have Halloween and Christmas parties. Pre-covid there was After Hours on various nights at all the parks. They are essentially night tickets. I doubt we'll see it in the manner you are really referring to though.

Hopefully we won't see it.

 

[keishashadow]

Right now, AP holders who are not staying onsite, are limited to booking X days at once. Maybe this option allows them to book additional days but start later.

We had to use our AP
entitlements for upcoming stay at margaritaville resort

Decided to use an old Covid voucher from
wBC for our Xmas trip that ends on last day of sorcerer pass dates for December.

You can bet I’m keeping a close eye on the availability schedule lol

It means any AP holder who now books a whole day and doesn’t need the morning, can leave that for other pass holders who do want to go.

No disrespect intended but, don’t see a whole lotta that happening

WDW goers are hardwired to grab ‘the best deal’. I get it, plans change, better to cover your bases and have some flexibility as when you can enter the parks etc

 

[Sandisw]

We had to use our AP
entitlements for upcoming stay at margaritaville resort

Decided to use an old Covid voucher from
wBC for our Xmas trip that ends on last day of sorcerer pass dates for December.

You can bet I’m keeping a close eye on the availability schedule lol

No disrespect intended but, don’t see a whole lotta that happening

WDW goers are hardwired to grab ‘the best deal’. I get it, plans change, better to cover your bases and have some flexibility as when you can enter the parks etc

I mean someone who knows they can’t go until after work might book more days like that. So it is possible that there are more than we think.

I know, even as an onsite guest, if I had that option we would choose it for days we know for sure aren’t going to be early days.

I am flying in this week and won’t arrive at the park until after 2 pm on Wednesday and doing an pool morning Thursday. I would have happily booked 2 pm or later because we know we won’t be visiting.

I still believe we will see changes to the program in the near future that go beyond this.

I do know as soon as sales starts we will invest in some vouchers just to have them!

 

[dioxide45]

I didn't read through the whole thread, sorry. But from what I understand of this, it may work well for us and not block a park pass reservation. I wonder if Disney is seeing a lot of AP holders booking a reservation and then arriving in the afternoon or evening? We have the Pixie Dust pass and usually work till 4PM and don't get to the park until a5pm or so. By allowing us to say we will arrive for an evening reservation, they could possibly allow another onsite guest into the park for the whole day?

 

[CarolynFH]

On our trip last week, we intentionally didn’t enter any park until late afternoon or early evening, just to escape the sun, and closed down the parks instead. I would have happily made park reservations that didn’t start until late in the day.

 

[RoseGold]

I've never been on Slinky Dog.

I’ve never been on slinky dog either LOL. The one time my little one wanted to do the line, peak Covid, it was down.

I’ve never been able to get a FP or a G+ for it.

 

[Boardwalk III]

There has been no info about it other than a wild rumor this could be an option.

I do not believe they will ever treat AP holders with a resort reservation different than guests who have multi day tickets.

Now I could see them creating a new level of AP that is tied to resort stays…more like a yearly pass that is not an AP but has a high number of days that can be used when a onsite guest.

As I have shared, what I need is a yearly pass with about 30 days. I don’t need an AP to use 300+ days.

But absent of that? No, I think these changes would apply when booking with your AP outside of resort reservations.

As an out-of-state DVC member with a current AP I’d also be happy with a pass that allows for up to 30 days/year visitation if the pricing was reasonable.

 

[Marionnette]

By allowing us to say we will arrive for an evening reservation, they could possibly allow another onsite guest into the park for the whole day?

Since AP park reservations don't come from the same bucket as ticketed guests' reservations, the only way that this would benefit an on-site guest would be if Disney shrunk the all-day pool of AP reservations and gave them to the resort guest bucket.

 

[whiteness]

Since AP park reservations don't come from the same bucket as ticketed guests' reservations, the only way that this would benefit an on-site guest would be if Disney shrunk the all-day pool of AP reservations and gave them to the resort guest bucket.

Since Disney doesn't publish the size of any of these buckets, we won't necessarily know if and when they do this.