Commercial renters rent themselves and dont use a broker, they have their own rental contracts. They don't want to give up precious profit by using a broker.
Its been a while but I think the last time I rented, I logged into my DVC account and updated or added the renters' names.
If they’re taking steps to stop it without a vote of the members they’re violating Florida law. There is no prohibition against the spec rental.
Requires a phone call or chat to change the lead guests name.
FYI there is already language that is in the rules that IMO they could use to stop it if they wish. I posted it not long ago. And it has been there in the rules since before the Florida law you are referencing was passed that makes changes to renting rules have to be voted on.
It would not be changing any rules. It would be enforcing a rule that is already there and was already there before the Florida law requiring changes to rental rules be voted upon...
The size of the operation isn't how commercial purposes is defined legally or how it appears that Disney is going to define it going forward. If what Sandi has been told is correct, anyone that Disney determines (in whatever way Disney decides to use) has rented points for more than their dues will be considered using their membership for commercial purposes. Anything that hints of spec renting is going to raise red flags be it a single contract couple hundred point contract owner or a LLC with a few thousand points.
Okay yes but not everyone using a broker is renting more than 20 reservations or exceeding their dues so its not safe for DVC or you to assume just because its a spec via a broker its automatically commercial and the member needs to be berated for it. There is zero excuse for what took place on this phone call.
There’s no rule in the POS banning spec renting - any “we can change these rules when we feel like” clause is overridden by the state law as the state law strictly prohibits changing the rules as you feel like.
I am not talking about any "we can change the rules" verbiage,
No they are not. Renting for commercial purposes has never been allowed. Any renting for a profit fits the legal definition of commercial purposes. If they are indeed actual finally doing something to enforce rules that have been on the books for years, any transaction like the one brought up in this thread is going to raise red flags. Disney is going to make sure the owner is attesting to there policy because if their does turn out to be a pattern of abuse of the policy going forward the owner can't claim ignorance of the policy if Disney takes action on future rentals.
In fact, now there’s a Check box which works against them since there’s only one option and since they defined personal use to include occasional renting that checkbox suffices as your notification.
Renting for commercial purposes has never been allowed. There’s no ban on spec renting. We’re talking about two separate things.
They can request it at check-in per the policy, which hasn’t been updated since you used to have to call member services.
Lol it does no such thing
But anything that looks like spec renting is going to raise red flags because it is the most profitable form of renting. I'm not saying that DVC should have stopped Jolynne from changing the reservation or that she was profiting from the rental, but I completely understand the cast member at Member Services reacting like they did because management has almost certainly told them to be on the lookout for rentals like this. They were just doing what management has directed them to do.
They’re the one who defined personal use to include non commercial renting
