Wal-Mart super centers CANNOT be open tomorrow here in MA

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My flyer said the Super Center's would be open Thanksgiving day. I thought it was strange, since all major dept. stores and supermarkets are closed.

Well, on the news last night, the Attorney General sent a letter to Wal-Mart informing them of the "blue laws" in MA, and they are breaking a law if they open tomorrow.

So, if you live in MA and find your Wal-Mart supercenter open tomorrow, just know they are breaking a law. :teeth:
 
i saw a commercial last night...
"Big Lots" is open on Thanksgiving day. (I'm in CT btw)

i've never shopped at Big lots...but...that's just wrong.
I can see grocery stores being open until 11am or something...but sheesh!
Although, I do remember driving to a local Walgreens on thanksgiving night to buy a new tree stand because ours had broken (we put my mom's tree up on thanksgiving night)
 

rigs32 said:
How can the government tell a story that they *can't* be open?

Blue Law...it is a law that prevented stores from opening on Sunday and Holidays. In MA, up until a few years ago, liquor stores could not be open on Sunday except for the few weeks between Thanksgiving and New Years.

The law was not made to so the Government could control when a store opened, it was made to protect the workers, so they would not have to be forced to work on a Sunday or Holiday. They have relaxed the Blue Laws a bit here in MA, gas stations and convenience stores can be open, but I know they used to have to pay double-pay if they chose to be open on a Holiday.
 
the blue laws here in ma are crazy
whole foods wanted to open on turkey day and the att general told them NO
they cant
i glad people should not have to work on turkey day
 
Here in TX we had Sunday "blue laws" until a few years ago. Grocery stores could be open, but had to rope off any areas that did ot pertain fully to food. No "dry goods" on Sunday (clothing, toys, etc.) There are still remnants, however. Car dealerships must still be closed either Saturday or Sunday (their choice), but can not sell cars both days of the weekend.
 
Have pity on every one who works retail. Boycot shopping on Thanksgiving Day! They may get to spend the Holiday with their family next year!

Believe me. When I worked for a small store, they always had us check our records mid October to see how much business we did the Thanksgiving before. And would decide how long or if we would be open based on that.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
 
From u-s-history.com
Colonial Massachusetts
Blue Laws
Personal Conduct Regulation


Puritan church members in the Massachusetts Bay colony, and later, Congregationalists elsewhere in New England, believed that their contractual relationship with God required them to enforce proper behavior in their communities. This perceived requirement resulted in the enactment of a variety of laws designed to regulate the conduct of all members of society.

In its strictest sense, “blue law”* refers to an edict designed to regulate public activities on the Sabbath, which meant Sunday to the Congregationalists of that day. In common parlance, the term blue law was expanded to include several different areas of behavior:

Sabbath Regulations. The first laws regulating public activities on Sundays were passed in colonial Virginia in the 1620s. Similar laws intended to keep the Sabbath holy were soon adopted elsewhere in America. Typically, all forms of trade or commerce were outlawed. No public entertainment or meetings were permitted, except of course for church services, which often included two-hour services in the morning and the afternoon. Travel on Sunday was banned, except for emergencies. Violators were subject to fines imposed by civil authorities.

Family Relationships. Efforts were made in many communities to provide social stability through legislation. Husbands and wives were required to live together to keep families intact. Parents risked losing their children if it were found that they were being poorly educated. The Puritans placed a heavy emphasis on the ability to read and understand the Bible, so great effort was expended to educate the community.

Sumptuary Laws. Many New England towns passed laws intended to prevent excesses in the areas of clothing and food consumption. Motivations in these instances were somewhat mixed. Part of the explanation can be found in the desire to prevent excessive human behavior. However, there was also an element of trying to keep people in their proper social stations. Fines were imposed on people on the lower rungs of society who dressed in silk or wore silver buckles on their shoes — perfectly acceptable practices for the upper classes.

Public Behavior. Community members found guilty of drunkenness, idleness or gossiping were made the targets of public ridicule during their confinement in the stocks or pillory. No celebrations of Christmas, other holidays or church weddings were permitted since those events were not sanctioned in the Bible. Public displays of affection between the sexes, even between husband and wife, were prohibited.
By the time of the American Revolution, many of the personal conduct laws were no longer enforced. Some, however, have remained on the books to the present day.

The blue laws also underwent a revival of sorts in the late 19th and early 20th centuries in the nationwide prohibition movement. Many communities also enacted Sunday closing laws, which prohibited businesses from operating on the Sabbath; other areas contented themselves with outlawing the sale of tobacco and liquor on Sundays.

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*The origin of the term blue law is disputed. A number of authorities have argued that some of the early laws, or a book describing the regulations, were printed on blue paper. Others suggest that the name is associated with “blue blood,” a term conveying a disapproving view of common behavior.

And an article with more modern day implications: http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1205/p01s02-usju.html
 
I think it is a very bad thing for government to regulate such a thing.


I have been a bedside nurse for over 20 years and thank goodness in CA we have no such laws. When I get stuck working the holidays and additional shifts around the holidays, the open businesses become a Godsend to me.
 
Just come up over the border to the one in Hudson, NH.

And I can say that since I am not one of the crazy BF shoppers...this year anyway! :rotfl:
 
In SC our stores (except grocery) can't open until 1:30 on Sunday's. We can't buy alcohol at ALL on Sunday's, not even a glass of wine in a restaurant. Most people here drive the 2 miles to NC where they can.
 
rigs32 said:
How can the government tell a story that they *can't* be open?

MA has Blue Laws that cause the stores to have to close on these days...these are the same laws that apparently still make it illegal to folk/square dance on the Sabbath :rotfl2: BTW, Whole Foods was also going to be open on Thanksgiving, but the AG sent them a letter saying that they couldn't after Shaws complained :rolleyes:
 
Hmmmmm, I thought the Kmart near me in South Attleboro, MA was open tomorrow.
 
tiff211 said:
Hmmmmm, I thought the Kmart near me in South Attleboro, MA was open tomorrow.

Yes, actually, now that you mention it, K-mart has been open for years on Thanksgiving day. Hmmmmmmmm.
 
KMart has been open on Thanksgiving for at least 10 years. In most cases the employees working volunteered to be there to earn extra money for the holidays, myself included. I can only recall one occasion where there were not enough volunteers and people were scheduled against their wishes.

Lasy year included shopping at Meijer, Kmart and Super Walmart before dinner, the Garden Ridge for their 84 hour sale after dinner.
 
Since most of the people working those stores will be people looking to make the extra holiday pay I don't see any problem with those stores being open.

I know I'm going to a movie tomorrow morning. Should movie theaters be forced to be closed too?
 
rigs32 said:
How can the government tell a story that they *can't* be open?
They are enforcing the blue laws. Blue laws dictate when a store can be open, when liquior can be sold etc. So the AG is well within his rights.
 
tiff211 said:
Hmmmmm, I thought the Kmart near me in South Attleboro, MA was open tomorrow.

They probably thought South Attleboro was part of Rhode Island and that's why they aren't making a stink.
Hmm I wonder if Whole Foods in Providence is open tomorrow.
 

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