It wasn't a restaurant where they have computerized billing.
I used to wait tables, and I just feel it's rude and "rushing" the customers to present the bill way before they're finished (unless they ask for it early) and I would always, always ask them if they wanted dessert before giving them their bill.
It just makes sense, to a waitress, to offer dessert since the bill will be larger then, and therefore your tip will probably be larger as well.
I responded in another "Tipping Thread" with my own personal opinion of how hard it can be to cater to the general public, just for reasons like this.
As you see by this thread, some people are thankful to have the check delivered early. Others feel rushed by it. As your server, we don't know which type of person you are. It's one of those darned if I do, darned if I don't scenarios.
I'd also like to point out about this specific incident, that some restaurant owners/managers have a policy to do this. So even if your server doesn't want to "rush" you, they have to. Yes, they work for your tip, but if they go against the rules of the establishment, they won't have a job at all.
Secondly, since the bill is handwritten, it's obvious that this isn't a fine dining establishment. As someone else pointed out, the only places left that don't computerize things are greasy spoons (Waffle Houses, etc), pizza places, and other fast table service places. You can't expect fine dining service at a place like this.
well, gotta disagree here. I waitress at a very nice steakhouse. fine dining. we have hand written bills. It is not a chain and owner is old school.
And since I've also worked at a place in the past that hand wrote the bills, it's still extremely easy to alter. Take the circled total on the bill, add $3.50 for the Key Lime Pie, and bam -- new total. It's only 5 seconds of work to add dessert to an existing bill.
Just in case you have time and want to understand what a server has to go through in determining what type of service to give you, here's a link to what I posted in another thread: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3133416&page=7
Last night we took DH's Dad and step-Mom out to dinner for a celebration.
Staff was pleasant, server was pleasant and attentive, food was great.
Then. We were only about half through our meal when she stopped at the table and said "I'm going to leave this (bill) here, but if you need anything else we can add it." That annoys me to no end. I feel she should have waited until we were finished, or nearly finished and then asked us if anyone wanted dessert before she presented the bill.
I did ask right away if anyone at the table wanted dessert. I know DH was planning on ordering dessert and coffee and I think his Dad would have too. But they both said no. DH didn't want her to have to refigure the bill.
It was Monday night, the restaurant wasn't busy and there were lots of empty tables so it wasn't like she was trying to "hurry us along" so another group could be seated at our table so I just don't understand why she would present the bill so quickly like she did.
We did end up tipping a bit less since she did that.
So, does it bother you if the server doesn't ask if you want dessert before they give you the bill?
Why would you do that? You knew your party was only about halfway through the meal; why would you impel them to make a decision on dessert solely because the check was alreadyade available?MIGrandma said:I did ask right away if anyone at the table wanted dessert.
Having a different outlook isn't 'not answering nicely'.Thank you to the ones who answered nicely and to those who didn't....well, just bless your hearts is all I've got to say to you. You know, we all have our annoyances. Those who said it wouldn't be a blip on their radar, well fine....glad to hear it....but I'm sure other things annoy you that wouldn't annoy me.
A general mention (or two) that a poster has a history of - tactfully - complaining or being particular isn't bringing up things from the past. Anything posted on a forum remains public, and often memorable; arguments with one's spouse generally aren't public and rarely live in perpetuity online. Apples/oranges.And to those who brought up things in the past, good grief. Let. It. Go. You must be the type to bring things up from years ago in arguments with your spouses too, right? Whatever.
Just so you all know the bill came to $78 before tax (no alcohol, FIL and step MIL don't drink, so we chose not to as well out of respect for their beliefs about it) and we tipped $15, roughly 15%. Is that acceptable to all you who were beating me over the head with a stick because we chose to reduce the tip?
Frequently, the tone of the responses one gets are a reflection of the tone of the original post.I have grown quite a thick skin from this message board, but good grief some of you just make it a lot less fun than it used to be. I can understand why so many new people stay away from here.
I know DH was planning on ordering dessert and coffee and I think his Dad would have too. But they both said no. DH didn't want her to have to refigure the bill.![]()
I love when the check is dropped off early. I like being able to get out of the restaurant quicker at the end. Our Cracker Barrel restaurant does this, and the couple of times we wanted to add on a coffee or dessert, it was not a problem.
I hate waiting for the bill when I am ready to leave. I would have tipped extra.
According to my calculations, that's a 19.2% tip. What would you have tipped her if she hadn't brought the check early?Just so you all know the bill came to $78 before tax (no alcohol, FIL and step MIL don't drink, so we chose not to as well out of respect for their beliefs about it) and we tipped $15, roughly 15%. Is that acceptable to all you who were beating me over the head with a stick because we chose to reduce the tip?
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Goodness! We just got home (car shopping, bought a new car today) and I see all the responses. Thank you to the ones who answered nicely and to those who didn't....well, just bless your hearts is all I've got to say to you.
You know, we all have our annoyances. Those who said it wouldn't be a blip on their radar, well fine....glad to hear it....but I'm sure other things annoy you that wouldn't annoy me. And to those who brought up things in the past, good grief. Let. It. Go. You must be the type to bring things up from years ago in arguments with your spouses too, right? Whatever.
Just so you all know the bill came to $78 before tax (no alcohol, FIL and step MIL don't drink, so we chose not to as well out of respect for their beliefs about it) and we tipped $15, roughly 15%. Is that acceptable to all you who were beating me over the head with a stick because we chose to reduce the tip?
I have grown quite a thick skin from this message board, but good grief some of you just make it a lot less fun than it used to be. I can understand why so many new people stay away from here. Pretty sad when grown adults here have to put other posters down just to make themselves feel better. I hope you're proud of yourselves. And I'm not talking to everyone here, there are some who can answer a question nicely but the ones I'm talking about, you know who you are. I feel sorry for you, I really do. Pretty pathetic.![]()
According to my calculations, that's a 19.2% tip. What would you have tipped her if she hadn't brought the check early?
18% is still closer to 20% than it is 15%.I think she said the $78 was before tax.
When I add the 6% Michigan sales tax, I get $82.68.
15 divided by 82.68 = 18.1%, the amount of the tip, using the numbers MIGrandma gave.
(yes, I am a math nerd)