Waiting to board our plane and....

[aaarcher86]

Same here. Just go without your snacks. If someone requests that no nuts be served because their baby is severely allergic to nuts then I won't eat nuts. It's that simple. I won't be all bent out of shape if I have to purchase a separate $2 snack.

You seem to be ignoring the idea that peanut related items may be coming with someone as a condition of THEIR health issue.

 

[Chocolate Cake]

*shaking my head as I read*. I guess I was brought up differently. I was taught to help out other people whenever possible.

AKK

I think most people on this thread are saying they would not consume peanuts on the plane.

But what about the man with his earphones in that didn't hear the announcement?

What about the woman who has no understanding of English?

What about the person that just doesn't give a crap about your child (sadly, yes, there are people out there like this).

How would you ever be able to get everyone to accommodate you or your child's allergy? It's not possible and not worth the risk, IMO.

 

[mondragon]

I think you're missing the point. MOST (90%+) people WILL give up the peanuts after such an announcement. What folks are discussing is whether making the request is the BEST way to ensure there's no danger or if the notification (both TO the airline and TO the passengers) should be earlier.

I agree, that is another part of the story.

AKK

And how should this announcement be made. What the op does not mention is if the family did notify the airline earlier but the airline did nothing about it. The family could have just been reminding the employees at the gate. You are just hearing one side of the story. There are currently no regulations to protect those with allergies.

 

[eliza61]

I bet you would feel differently if it was your child with the severe allergy. How can you possibly be torn?

Because now if I have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for my kid I'm forced (without any consideration to me) to make arrangements. I'd be one of the put out people and would probably eat it anyway.

I'm sorry I hate this new attitude that everyone around has to make accommodations for some one else.
If my ding dang kid is that allergic than I make it a point to get my kid safely where they need to go.

They should have all pulled out p& J sandwiches.

Sorry this crap makes me mad

 

[Dawnlight]

And my mother is diabetic and carries peanut butter crackers around with her to accommodate HER health needs. Why does one person's needs trump others?

Yes, there has to be another way to ensure that other passengers aren't put out. If one has a severe allergy that needs accommodation such as no nuts on the plane, then they need to alert the airline when making the ticket purchase and the airline needs to alert the fellow passengers- not day of, but in advance so they can plan their food needs accordingly. In the age of internet, there shouldn't be much of a problem making this a reality.

Just to be on the safe side, we don't even take anything on board a plane that has peanuts. Just in case someone has an allergy, we don't have to worry about it. As a diabetic myself, I saw a PP said her mother needed her peanut butter crackers on the plane since she's diabetic. She doesn't "need" peanut butter crackers. There is a multitude of other options she can have in her purse. I usually take cheese crackers, and walnuts/almonds, some type of breakfast bar, etc. But I agree with others that if my child had such a severe peanut allergy, we would drive to our destination where we could be more in control of what the child comes in contact with. I can't even imagine having a child with such a severe allergy to peanuts though, it must be very, very difficult to deal with. I also can't imagine just shrugging my shoulders and eating something on a plane with peanuts in it, even though the passengers had been asked not to.

That was me, and I quoted my post above yours so you can see that I never said she "needs" peanut butter crackers. I said she carries them to accommodate her health needs. I also said later in the thread that there are other options, and multiple people have said that they would accommodate allergy needs if given the prior advance notice.

You, nor anyone else, has any right to tell any other person that they should carry some other food that you deem acceptable on the off chance that someone will have a reaction to a different food choice.

 

[declansdad]

Who is going to notify every passenger. Airlines do not have time to do this. This is what I think airlines should do. When purchasing the ticket, have a popup/announcement come up asking travelers not to bring snacks containing nuts due to many travelers having allergies

Think of it this way. Last week on my flight back home a lady had her cat on the plane in a small carrier. I am very allergic to cats. Thankfully she was towards the back of the plane and I was up front. No one called/emailed me that someone was traveling with a car. What if I was sitting next to her and the flight was overbooked.

I get notifications from the airline whenever I fly, wouldn't be that hard to include this type of request in those notifications.

 

[bcla]

We were never allowed to put anything containing tree nuts in my kid's lunches because each class had a kid with a severe allergy. It's kind of a way of life.

That being said, Ryanair banned a passenger for some time after he opened a bag of nuts (he brought on board) after all the passengers were warned. The guy sitting next to him even yelled at him before he opened it. Then the four year old with the allergy went into anaphylactic shock and had to be revived.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/t...-after-girl-suffers-nut-allergy-reaction.html

Fae Platten stopped breathing and passed out twenty minutes into a return flight from Tenerife, where she had been on holiday with her parents, after a man sitting four rows back from her opened a bag of peanuts.

Staff on the flight had given three clear warnings and refrained from selling nuts on board after Fae's mother alerted crew that the child was severely allergic.

But one passenger ignored the warning, leading to Fae's face swelling up and her losing consciousness, after peanut particles were circulated by the air conditioning system on board.

Fae had to be injected with her anti-allergy adrenaline by a fellow passenger who is an ambulance driver, before being taken to hospital for treatment after the plane landed at Stansted.

The man who opened the peanuts reportedly didn't speak very good English and has been banned from flying with the airline for two years.​

 

[eliza61]

I get notifications from the airline whenever I fly, wouldn't be that hard to include this type of request in those notifications.

So what happens if I don't comply with the request? do I get put off the plane? do I get a refund?

If I eat a bag of peanuts 10 secs before boarding and the kid still goes into shock, is now my responsibility? what about 30 minutes before boarding in the waiting area? if the kid is near me do I still have to not eat because the smell makes him sick?

can I eat peanut butter coco puffs in the morning before boarding?

 

[cabanafrau]

Use it to add a little jam?!

Best response on the thread! Classic!

 

[declansdad]

there is no rule where the family must notify the airline that a child/family member has an allergy. It does not even have to be nuts. So you are saying your snacks are more important than a child who has a severe allergy.

There is no rule but people are talking about have the common courtesy to not consume nuts because of the person with the allergy. That goes both ways; if a person knows they could have this type of reaction, it should also fall upon them to notify the airline as soon as possible so they can make the necessary accommodations.

 

[cabanafrau]

So what happens if I don't comply with the request? do I get put off the plane? do I get a refund?

If I eat a bag of peanuts 10 secs before boarding and the kid still goes into shock, is now my responsibility? what about 30 minutes before boarding in the waiting area? if the kid is near me do I still have to not eat because the smell makes him sick?

can I eat peanut butter coco puffs in the morning before boarding?

I don't think the airlines want to wade into policing it.

 

[eliza61]

Use it to add a little jam?!

Jam won't help, someone has a grape allergy.

 

[declansdad]

So what happens if I don't comply with the request? do I get put off the plane? do I get a refund?

If I eat a bag of peanuts 10 secs before boarding and the kid still goes into shock, is now my responsibility? what about 30 minutes before boarding in the waiting area? if the kid is near me do I still have to not eat because the smell makes him sick?

can I eat peanut butter coco puffs in the morning before boarding?

You can still eat whatever you want, that' s your choice.

 

[cabanafrau]

Have you ever tried keeping one of those masks on a 2 year old. It's impossible. They will also need to wear a full face mask since it can enter the eyes.

Parents do all sorts of "impossible" things to take care of medically fragile children every day. While keeping a mask on a two year old is no picnic, it doesn't begin to compare to the thousands of challenges parents face every day that would drive most of us to our knees.

 

[kaytieeldr]

However, if you are having low sugar levels, OJ or other snacks onboard will be at the ready. A diabetic doesn't need a hot meal to retain sugar levels.

Peanut butter is one of the recommended foods to relieve a high blood sugar episode. OJ would probably be ill-advised, as it's on the low blood sugar list.

Those buildings bring in fresh air, a good amount of fresh air. The excess air leaves the building when the doors are opened.

The air supply on most planes is completely new several times an hour, almost twice as frequently as the air in a building. Opening the building door only affects the fresh air near the door, not through the whole building.

What would happen if these people were boarding an existing flight and the leg before them had people eating peanuts. Wouldn't that air with the peanut dust still be circulating when the child with the allergies came on board? I was on a flight once where we stopped in Nashville, no plane change. Just picked up and dropped off passengers. If the parents didn't notify the airline until they got to the gate, how would that be handled?

Again, the air refreshes so frequently that there wouldn't be peanut dust from one flight to the next. Peanut residue, yes, probably.

Who is going to notify every passenger. Airlines do not have time to do this. This is what I think airlines should do. When purchasing the ticket, have a popup/announcement come up asking travelers not to bring snacks containing nuts due to many travelers having allergies

Think of it this way. Last week on my flight back home a lady had her cat on the plane in a small carrier. I am very allergic to cats. Thankfully she was towards the back of the plane and I was up front. No one called/emailed me that someone was traveling with a car. What if I was sitting next to her and the flight was overbooked.

With pets onboard vs. animal allergies, generally whoever notifies the airline first has priority.

 

[Ceila]

Why is it that those who dare question the safety of flying for someone who is deathly allergic, or who calls the last-minute ban an inconvenience, are automatically assumed to be heartless jerks who wouldn't comply? I don't think I've heard anyone say that they would go ahead and eat peanuts anyway. Did I miss a post somewhere?

I'm perfectly capable of accommodating someone while still questioning the process.

 

[Art 1]

So what happens if I don't comply with the request? do I get put off the plane? do I get a refund?

Jam won't help, someone has a grape allergy.

 

[cabanafrau]

Jam won't help, someone has a grape allergy.

Strawberry? Apple Butter? Orange Marmalade?

 

[declansdad]

Just to be on the safe side, we don't even take anything on board a plane that has peanuts. Just in case someone has an allergy, we don't have to worry about it. As a diabetic myself, I saw a PP said her mother needed her peanut butter crackers on the plane since she's diabetic. She doesn't "need" peanut butter crackers. There is a multitude of other options she can have in her purse. I usually take cheese crackers, and walnuts/almonds, some type of breakfast bar, etc. But I agree with others that if my child had such a severe peanut allergy, we would drive to our destination where we could be more in control of what the child comes in contact with. I can't even imagine having a child with such a severe allergy to peanuts though, it must be very, very difficult to deal with. I also can't imagine just shrugging my shoulders and eating something on a plane with peanuts in it, even though the passengers had been asked not to.

The poster didn't say her mother needed the peanut butter crackers, she said that is what she typically carries in her purse.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

We were never allowed to put anything containing tree nuts in my kid's lunches because each class had a kid with a severe allergy. It's kind of a way of life.

That being said, Ryanair banned a passenger for some time after he opened a bag of nuts (he brought on board) after all the passengers were warned. The guy sitting next to him even yelled at him before he opened it. Then the four year old with the allergy went into anaphylactic shock and had to be revived.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/t...-after-girl-suffers-nut-allergy-reaction.html

Fae Platten stopped breathing and passed out twenty minutes into a return flight from Tenerife, where she had been on holiday with her parents, after a man sitting four rows back from her opened a bag of peanuts.

Staff on the flight had given three clear warnings and refrained from selling nuts on board after Fae's mother alerted crew that the child was severely allergic.

But one passenger ignored the warning, leading to Fae's face swelling up and her losing consciousness, after peanut particles were circulated by the air conditioning system on board.

Fae had to be injected with her anti-allergy adrenaline by a fellow passenger who is an ambulance driver, before being taken to hospital for treatment after the plane landed at Stansted.

The man who opened the peanuts reportedly didn't speak very good English and has been banned from flying with the airline for two years.​

I remember this story. Tragic for the girl, but I also feel sorry for the guy with the peanuts if he truly didn't understand English well enough to know what was going on.

I was in Japan last year. If any of those train or plane announcements had been about not eating peanuts I wouldn't have had the foggiest idea. I would've felt terrible if I'd unintentionally harmed someone, but should I really be banned from using the trains midway through my trip because I didn't understand the Japanese announcement at the station?