VWL Groupies & Lovers Thread (Special Collectors Edition 2.5) updated 2 February 2025

I was thinking of booking the VWL from September 24th to September 28th. But now I am reconsidering. It looks like the ongoing construction will take away the peacefulness of the resort. Do you hear the construction from the rooms?
 
I was thinking of booking the VWL from September 24th to September 28th. But now I am reconsidering. It looks like the ongoing construction will take away the peacefulness of the resort. Do you hear the construction from the rooms?
Welcome, Helen! I think the noise factor will depend on your park habits. If you're in the parks most of the day, then I don't expect noise will be a huge factor. And the grand beauty of the Lodge will remain intact. If, however, you plan to spend afternoons or mornings on your balcony, then you will likely be disturbed a bit. We'll be back there in a few weeks, so if I get any more insight, I'll let the Groupies know.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BOBBI!! :bday:

All we saw of the construction was at night, which is to say we couldn't tell much. It does appear, based on Di's excellent photos, that they have scoured the beach a bit more than when she took those shots. Even the eternal optimist Luv said it looks like the beach area is kaput.

Glad to hear that the Osborne Lights were extended a few days. We paid to do the whole dinner party extravaganza in the special seating area, and I have to admit, it was money well-spent (relative to Disney costs). The food was quite good (frankly, better than AP), the drinks were free (alcohol, too), and the viewing area was superb as we were set up at the end of the street under the Osborne globe. We had a great time with friends who had joined us for the quick weekend trip, and we stayed the entire time we could at the area. They gave us special mementos, too--kind of a shadow box thingie with a bulb from a strand of the Osborne Lights. Kinda cool. Expensive, but cool. lol

This was our first trip to Disney right at either Christmas or New Year's, and we learned some valuable lessons, mostly how to plan transportation better. For example, we almost missed the Osborne dinner as we incorrectly assumed driving would be the best option. No. We got on the final road to DHS when signs alerted us that parking at DHS was closed and to use Epcot parking. . .not that you could get to Epcot by that time without completely backtracking. So, we made a quick Open Table reservation at Shula's in case the Dolphin was being monitored for parking, and we valet-parked there. We hoofed it to DHS, eschewing the boat which we feared would a) take too long and b) be too crowded to get on the first boat, anyway. As it was, we beat the boat by a couple of minutes and made it to the dinner party on time. Things you learn.

More on OKW later. . .Kathy, have a grand time at the World!!
 
Hello groupies,

Monday morning and I am back at my assigned work area. We arrived home on new years eve as planned. When we pulled into the driveway, we could see the basketball hoop was on the ground blocking the overhead door in the garage. The neighbors told us by text that the storms knocked it down and it was bent. I was afraid that the structural frame was bent, and it turns out the rim took the brunt of the fall, and that was all that was damaged. Put on a new rim and we are good to go this spring, so I was pretty happy with that. We picked up pizza at a local joint, so we started to settle in to eat. I realized a circuit breaker was off and needed to be reset. I head down to the basement and discover 3" of standing water. It was then that all the magic was totally gone and I wanted to back to Orlando. I took off my socks and shoes to wade into the cold water, and hoped that it would not electrocute me. Got the breaker back on and went back to the pizza. So we spent the weekend on that project. Illinois really got pounded and the river here in our town is expected to crest in a day or so. It was 85 everyday in the kingdom so we missed all the nasty weather, just wish that the sump pump had not failed.

Sleepy, I read your comments on Artist Point. It is a real bummer as it used to be one of our suppers every trip, but we scratched them off our list last summer. Service is critical in restaurants, especially in the "signature" locations. We arrived there fairly early, a little before seven. I saw that there were tables all along the window and I asked if we could be seated at one of them. There was a lot of daylight left and I wanted to look out on the lake and the courtyard. The hostess stared into her computer screen for three seconds and said no those tables were not available. They seated us two tables beyond the hostess station right one the main walkway aisle. Everyone entering the restaurant or using the restroom walked past us. The entire time it seemed someone was coming by our table. The restaurant was not half full! When we left there were still lots of tables open on the windows. I had the same comments you did about the quality of the buffalo, size of entrees, prices, all of it.

This trip we went to Jiko. We scratched them too. I will try to be brief, the short story the service was very poor. The waiter was slow and did not come back for long periods. He never did come back for drink orders. Others brought the food and had to ask "who got this and who ordered that"? At that point I asked for an iced tea from the guy who brought the food. Nothing. When waiter did show he did not know I asked for anything. Then he was miffed when we did not want desert. The people at the door were not very friendly and nobody said thank you as we left. Three people in our group and the check was over $150 with no alcohol and no dessert.

I have another very long story about annual passes. I won't bother with it in this post, but we are done with those for a long while too. We had a wonderful vacation. My daughter told me it was one of her best vacations ever, and that made me happy. We are starting to adjust how we do Disney. We enjoy the Lodge and our family time together. We are going back for a short trip in March to see our daughter and the high school band perform. Then the summer trip is scheduled, and airfare is set. I am toying with switching over to OKW for the summer stay. Sleepy, what say you on OKW? Did you like it there? I have read some negative things on the purple board, but when I went to the hospitality house it looked real nice to me.

I will try to post some pics in the next few days. If others stopping by this thread wonder about the construction the show it pretty well. They seem to be nearing the end of preparing the site for the new construction. I think they will begin in earnest very soon. Walking to and from the parking lot I noticed a lot of construction supervisor types in conversation. As if they were planning the next phase once the holidays were done.

Kind regards to all. greg
 
I have another very long story about annual passes. I won't bother with it in this post, but we are done with those for a long while too. We had a wonderful vacation. My daughter told me it was one of her best vacations ever, and that made me happy.

Greg...I snipped this out because I was just so happy to hear that your daughter (and the whole family) had a wonderful vacation. So glad to hear that the negative experiences didn't mess with your overall trip too much. :)



We are starting to adjust how we do Disney. We enjoy the Lodge and our family time together. We are going back for a short trip in March to see our daughter and the high school band perform. Then the summer trip is scheduled, and airfare is set. I am toying with switching over to OKW for the summer stay. Sleepy, what say you on OKW? Did you like it there? I have read some negative things on the purple board, but when I went to the hospitality house it looked real nice to me.

I know you asked Sleepy about this, but several of us here really like OKW (Jimmy, you out there?). The size of the villas 1BR and larger are really significant and the resort itself is a lush, quiet retreat. DW & I like OKW a lot, and while it is a large, spread-out resort the bus system is pretty good there (5 internal stops and no sharing with other resorts). In fact, we were thinking about staying at OKW later this year if it's available.
 

Welcome back, greg! I, too, am at my assigned workplace after a long drive from the World that got us home around 8 p.m. last night. No water in basement, just cat puke. We leave extra food, and they have a tendency to gorge themselves in our absence. Goobers. Still, better puke land mines than a flood. Again, thanks for the glasses! Our friends say thanks, too!

Artist Point: Yep, sad. Gary, the manager, stopped by moments before things starting going downhill (we had met him to thank him for our wedding experience a couple of years ago), and we spoke for 5-6 minutes. I wish he had come after the meal. We didn't make a big deal out of the meal at the time since we didn't want to influence our guests' thinking--we felt it would be impolite. We did get DVC discount, but even with that, our meal was over $150 before tip. Can't afford to do that if the meal is mediocre.

OKW: We enjoyed the resort and would stay there again. It is very spread out, but as Granny mentioned, is quite lush and has a wonderful walking path system. The main pool area has re-opened, though the pool proper is a bit small. There is an attached beach area that now includes a fire pit and a couple of hammocks, too. We were in a studio and, yes, there is a ton of room in there. The room was clean and both heated/cooled quickly. The shower/tub was large and had great pressure and a seemingly unlimited supply of hot water (I like longer showers). Lighting in the room is good, but in the bathroom, I'm told it's inadequate (to be fair, "we've" yet to find any resort or hotel with adequate lighting, I think :duck:). Room decor? For our tastes, it's bland. There isn't much furniture in there--we had two queens, one round table w/two chairs, a nightstand and the bureau with the TV on it. Yeah, that sounds like a lot, but the room is so big that the furniture swims in it. The TV is too far away for its size, not that I watched much TV, but still. The carpet was looking tired and worn in our room, too. Safe is large.

Bus system was good when we used it (which we should have on Osborne night). However, our room was located directly across from a bus stop, so beginning around 6:30 each morning and running until about 1 a.m. the next morning made for a loud-ish room. We sleep easily, so no worries, but if you're a light sleeper, it could be an issue if you get such a room. Oh, we also had a really nice balcony (it was a corner room on the second floor--4424), but we had no opportunity to use it, of course. We were close to the Village Pool, too.

We got a very relaxed vibe from OKW, and we found it convenient to Disney Springs. It's not terribly close to any park, but given we drove, it wasn't difficult to get anywhere. . .except Osborne Lights night. :rolleyes1 Honestly, it's not our favorite (or even second or third favorite) resort. However, it's not because the resort is bad--it's just a design and decor style that doesn't thrill us, nor is it a location that suits our park visitation habits. In other words, there are no quick ways to get back for a nap or to relax around the pool. Still, it's lovely, serene (with the exception of all the buses, a by-product of internal bus pickup system), and quite relaxing. If you think it would suit your style, I'd give it a hearty thumbs up.

Speaking of APs, we have them but might let those lapse, too. The prices have continued to skyrocket, and I'm lucky in that I can do military tickets. The downside is there are a limited number of them you can purchase in a year. Ours worked perfectly fine--as did the Magic Bands--with one small exception. Seems if you do online check-in and put a cc on the account, the online system has a habit of dropping it. Thus, we tried to charge to the room a couple of times the first night and couldn't. Otherwise, all went well.
 
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I will happily take any input or comments from anyone regarding any experience at the world. I just mentioned Sleepy because I went there to drop a package at OKW the other day. Please anyone who has thoughts or experience feel free to share your opinion. We are staying ten nights and it would save me 20 points or more. We will be studio dwellers, no debate on that. I was going to put on a brave face and stay loyal to the Villas at Wilderness Lodge. But seeing the job site is a slap in the face, a heavy dose of reality. I do a lot of 3D design on commercial and industrial job sites, and have fair amount of knowledge and discernment on this kind of topic. They are still moving earth and doing underground piping right now. The size and scope of the project is bigger than one would think. Especially when the north side of the lodge is considered. That makes it look quite large actually.

BTW. WE use car rental as I go golfing a lot and drive to various theme parks, restaurants, groceries, etc. Thus I make numerous trips to the parking lot. The lower roadway behind the landscaping where the BUFFALOES USED TO BE, has become a bit of a thoroughfare for delivery trucks, cabs, buses, construction trucks, etc. I am talking 35 or 40 miles per hour type stuff. My supposition is most of the fore mentioned vehicles used to go toward one world drive. That is now blocked and decommissioned due to construction. More congestion at the gatehouse is greater nuisance than ever. If you are walking to the parking lot, during daytime hours especially when there will be more commercial and business traffic, look both ways. There are no stops signs through that part of the road way.


Edited: I see that my pictures did not load. I thought i could drag and drop from the email. I will need to figure that out later I guess.
 
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Hi all - it has been a long time since I have checked in here. I will be taking a trip down to Disney in May and planning to stay in a one bdrm at the lodge. My daughter is now planning to bring her fiance as well. So my question - can we fit 5 adults in a 1 Bdrm? The last time we stayed in a studio there was a murphy bed that my youngest loved. Do all the villas have a Murphy bed?
 
Hi all - it has been a long time since I have checked in here. I will be taking a trip down to Disney in May and planning to stay in a one bdrm at the lodge. My daughter is now planning to bring her fiance as well. So my question - can we fit 5 adults in a 1 Bdrm? The last time we stayed in a studio there was a murphy bed that my youngest loved. Do all the villas have a Murphy bed?

You will be allowed to book 5 into the one bedroom but you have to provide bedding and the bed for the 5th. Only the studios got the murphy bed. The 1 bedrooms have a king bed in the bedroom and queen sleeper sofa in the living room.
 
Hi all - it has been a long time since I have checked in here. I will be taking a trip down to Disney in May and planning to stay in a one bdrm at the lodge. My daughter is now planning to bring her fiance as well. So my question - can we fit 5 adults in a 1 Bdrm? The last time we stayed in a studio there was a murphy bed that my youngest loved. Do all the villas have a Murphy bed?

You are braver than me, I think with 5 adults I'd have to either splurge for a 2BR, or maybe flip to a Kidani 1BR with those 2 full bathrooms...

Ron
 
You are braver than me, I think with 5 adults I'd have to either splurge for a 2BR, or maybe flip to a Kidani 1BR with those 2 full bathrooms...

There is not much availability at the moment for May so wait listed Kidani and am now booked for OKW. Thanks for the responses.
 
Greg
We love OKW!

Our 1st stay was less than stellar, we had a studio, and its basically set up as a nice 2 bed hotel IMO. You don't have a lot of furniture(no sleeper sofa or chair)but you do have a table and 2 chairs. This is where it feels more like a nice hotel room, less studio, 3 or more people puts someone sitting on the bed. Not a huge issue, but still, its more spacious than other studios at other DVC resorts, but it feels less roomy to me in the way its laid out. That kept us with a negative opinion about the resort overall for a long time.

Fast forward several yrs....we decide to give it a try based on pts savings but go it in a 1 bedroom. Thats the point we fell in love with the place. It quickly became #2 in our hearts(you know which is #1 obviously:lovestruc). So we stayed several times in a row afterwards. Our kids really liked it too, esp. the roominess. Its IMO a simple resort, nothing fancy. Not a lot of bells and whistles, but that allows for a peaceful stay.

I love the water and golf course views and sitting on balcony with a cup o joe in the AM. Community Hall is a cool place, play pool, games, etc. Olivias has good eats. Cant say great things about Goods Foods To Go, its just so so IMO. Never tried the snack areas near other pools but imagine they are similar. Great walkways, and boats to DS.

We personally like the Turtle Pond area and request that most times. The 1 beds there in TP have a little different configuration that allows a little more privacy for folks going into bath area, just an extra door basically. Another reason we request TP area.

If you are getting a studio, I would request near Hospitality House. This affords you a good bus stop location, access to the amenities a little quicker.

Overall, we still love OKW! For saving pts, I dont think you can go wrong with a studio here, just like to throw out the scenario so you arent expecting VWL studio layout and alas, you get something different.
 
OK, OK. I am guilty of relaxing and laying back too much! After returning from The World just before Christmas, I have just not taken the time to join in this great thread. My apologies for all of the B’Days I missed, and adventures described. Bad Dog; No Biscuit.


DiznyDi will probably fill you in on the highlights of the recent World adventure: I see she has already shared the view from our room; what a difference, but OK, we are into it now so let’s get it done!


I want to share one of my surprises while in The World. Very rarely is the Noodle Station ever open when we are in the MK. This past trip it was open, so I just had to try it. What a great surprise! But what I was surprised about was this:


This is the Lobster Roll I got at the Noodle Station for $12+:


Noodle Station Lobster Roll Dec. 2015.JPG



And this was the same selection at the Boathouse in Disney Springs for $19+:

Boathouse Lobster Roll Dec. 2015.JPG


We loved the Boathouse atmosphere and menu selections, and definitely have it on our return again list, but the difference here is just amazing.

As our DVC adventures mature and begin to stretch over decades, we have found that the Signature Restaurants that we have loved in the past have lost their luster. And we have found, in many cases, that the counter service meals are just as delightful and generally a better value. Don't get me wrong here, we still love the atmosphere the Signature Restaurants offer, but we have slowly reduced the number of nights we eat at them during any trip to The World.
 
Good Morning Groupies!
claire_ont: We had 5 adults in a 2-bedroom at VWL in October; myself, DDad, DD & SIL, and DS. DDad and I had the master, DD and SIL had the 'studio' portion and DS slept on the queen pull-out in the living area. DS is 33 and 6'3" and about 240 lbs. Even with 2 bathrooms, it was at times difficult. I honestly can't imagine 5 adults in a 1 bdrm. DS's comment about sleeping on the pull-out, "well, its better than sleeping on the floor".
We've not stayed at OKW, but JT loves the 1-bdrms. I hope this works for you.
 
As our DVC adventures mature and begin to stretch over decades, we have found that the Signature Restaurants that we have loved in the past have lost their luster. And we have found, in many cases, that the counter service meals are just as delightful and generally a better value. Don't get me wrong here, we still love the atmosphere the Signature Restaurants offer, but we have slowly reduced the number of nights we eat at them during any trip to The World.
Wow. What a difference location and designation make, DDad. And I couldn't agree more with your summation that the Signatures have lost their luster for you. The same applies to us. A few years ago, the Signatures were expensive (though I would argue that the cost for their entrees has easily exceeded even the gloomiest of inflation figures over the years), but we felt they offered a special experience and a quality of food that TS and QS did not possess. The past three years, we've mostly found the Signatures do that inconsistently, and they have exponentially increased their prices: $41 for salmon with a few potatoes and frisee and $49 for buffalo with barley, carrots, and turnips seems a bit like highway robbery. Like you, we'll continue to hit the occasional Signature, but mostly going forward we're doing TS, QS, and have talked about cooking more meals in our room when we use 1 & 2BRs.
 
. . . . . Like you, we'll continue to hit the occasional Signature, but mostly going forward we're doing TS, QS, and have talked about cooking more meals in our room when we use 1 & 2BRs.

I can't help but relate what I always think when someone asks what someone cooks in the Villas during their time in The World. A long time ago, when one was asked this question, they answered, "I don't cook at home; why would I cook on vacation?" DiznyDi and I have laughed about that response for years, probably because it fits us so well.

I will be honest; the only thing I make in the kitchen in the villas is ICE CUBES.
 
In response to Dad's and Sleepy's post regarding Signature dining, we have never been big fans of most of these restaurants at WDW. We did have a good meal at Artists Point many years ago, the problem was, it wasnt great. And for the prices, I expect great, not perfect, but, a cut above the normal TS meals.

I constantly find myself on the restaurant boards these days injecting my thoughts about peoples plans for ADRs(when they ask for advice). We have our go too's...50s PTC, San Angel, Rose n Crown, Via Napoli, Biergarten, The Wave along with a few other places. I cant honestly say every meal here is my favorite, certain dishes I go for. But I like the consistency of these places. I get a good tasting meal, expect too pay inflated prices:upsidedowbut I understand what I am getting going in.

Dad proved a point with picture alone, $7 more for less between a Signature and CS. Thats just wrong! I understand, its the experience to at a signature that is in the price, but cmon man:crazy:

I have a feeling when Eisner was in charge, and he was instrumental in the idea of resorts and foods becoming so much more a part of the overall experience, he didnt have the idea of dumbing it all down to this. WDW guests are smarter than we are given credit for, especially us repeat visitors.

Sorry for the ramble, but eating is a big deal too me:D
 
I want to share one of my surprises while in The World. Very rarely is the Noodle Station ever open when we are in the MK. This past trip it was open, so I just had to try it. What a great surprise! But what I was surprised about was this:


This is the Lobster Roll I got at the Noodle Station for $12+:


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And this was the same selection at the Boathouse in Disney Springs for $19+:

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We loved the Boathouse atmosphere and menu selections, and definitely have it on our return again list, but the difference here is just amazing.

As our DVC adventures mature and begin to stretch over decades, we have found that the Signature Restaurants that we have loved in the past have lost their luster. And we have found, in many cases, that the counter service meals are just as delightful and generally a better value. Don't get me wrong here, we still love the atmosphere the Signature Restaurants offer, but we have slowly reduced the number of nights we eat at them during any trip to The World.

I'll add a slightly different perspective. Assuming The Boathouse is eligible for TIW discount, that $19 meal becomes $15.20. So not as pronounced a cost difference which one might attribute in part to the fries instead of chips. Just sayin'.

Of course, you need to tip at The Boathouse which cancels those savings, but at the end you have a much nicer dining experience. Mostly I'm glad to see that both locations don't skimp on the lobster filling. :)

I agree that the signature restaurants have declined somewhat over the years. Like most negative things at WDW, I attribute this to the evil Disney Dining Plan. It would be much better if they just eliminated signature restaurants from the Dining Plan so they could focus on enhanced customer service and food preparation. Still, we have been pretty lucky with our signature meal experiences, though we don't often do them anymore.
 
So I'm looking at booking a trip tomorrow for VWL in early December this year. When I checked availability yesterday it looks pretty open. And when viewing availability there is a large warning indicating that the resort has significant construction going on. I'm thinking of booking and trying to move to OKW at the 7 month mark. Just not sure what we want to do but we'll have time to figure it out, and may not have that option anyway.
 



















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