VWL Groupies & Lovers Thread (Special Collectors Edition 2.5) updated 2 February 2025

Forgot to respond to this earlier. As said above, there are both large and small boats running to MK at peak times in the morning and evening in constant rotation. You may have to wait a few minutes for the next boat to arrive. The launch to the Contemporary is usually a small boat (from memory).

Thank you so much! All your information has been very helpful. I really appreciate it.

Parksopening an hour not 30 minutes early the beginning of next week. Will boats run an hour before opening?
 
Thank you. I see boat service to Contemporary too. Is that correct. Ill request high floor. Is Territory Lounge open for drinks and apps?

Is Geyser Point an outside bar?

Thanks.

Unless it very recently restarted the boats have not been operating around Bay Lake going between CR, FW and WL/BRV.

Geyser Point is a quasi outside bar and dining location. It has all the parts of the building except walls on the 2 long sides.
 
The boats to the Contemporary and Fort Wilderness had not resumed service as of Dec 3-12 when we were there. Also, during that trip we often shared busses with either the Contemporary or Fort Wilderness. It was no big deal, but it's something to keep in mind. We aren't rope droppers and mostly were using the busses at later times when they weren't full so maybe that is why.
 

Unless it very recently restarted the boats have not been operating around Bay Lake going between CR, FW and WL/BRV.

Geyser Point is a quasi outside bar and dining location. It has all the parts of the building except walls on the 2 long sides.
Thank you. I will certainly try it out.

The boats to the Contemporary and Fort Wilderness had not resumed service as of Dec 3-12 when we were there. Also, during that trip we often shared busses with either the Contemporary or Fort Wilderness. It was no big deal, but it's something to keep in mind. We aren't rope droppers and mostly were using the busses at later times when they weren't full so maybe that is why.
Thank you. Was WL first whwn you shared the bus. Having the scooter is the peoblem since once a bus has one, we need to wait for another.

Thanks.
 
Thank you. I will certainly try it out.


Thank you. Was WL first whwn you shared the bus. Having the scooter is the peoblem since once a bus has one, we need to wait for another.

Thanks.

Yes, WL seemed to be the first stop but that doesn't necessarily mean you are getting on an empty bus. As I said, we are not rope droppers. We come and go at off times. Sometimes if we were heading out in the afternoon, while the bus stopped first at WL it had people on it returning from a park or DS that were getting off at the second stop (either Contemporary or Fort Wilderness). It sounded from your earlier posts that you like to head out early, so that shouldn't be a problem for you as no one will be coming back from a park at that time.
 
We rope dropped from WL (Dec 5-12) and the first busses of the morning did not share the route with the Camp - also the early and late boats were always the large boats.
 
We rope dropped from WL (Dec 5-12) and the first busses of the morning did not share the route with the Camp - also the early and late boats were always the large boats.
So it sounds like they are running like they used to, with the exception of the launch to CR.
 
Does anybody know if they currently have Wilderness Lodge baseball-style hats right now? My husband wished he had bought the. gray flannel-looking hat last time we were there. I am hoping they have something this time for him to buy.
 
I just want to say that after a 3 DVC resort split stay at WDW the week before Christmas, VWL was our favorite!
Saw that one coming a mile off! VWL wins for us too :)

Currently debating canceling out on my AKV club room in march and booking a VWL one for the summer.
What's keeping me from cancelling is that my AP expires the week following that stay and it's so hard to come by those rooms.
 
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Does anybody know if they currently have Wilderness Lodge baseball-style hats right now? My husband wished he had bought the. gray flannel-looking hat last time we were there. I am hoping they have something this time for him to buy.
We were just there and to my recollection, there were no such ball caps. Now, things can change quickly, especially now that the holiday season is almost over. Overall, as is usually the case, there wasn't a lot of WL-related merchandise there--that seems to be the case at most resorts anymore. As for the boats, we did an early excursion to MK on our second morning, and both the small and large boats were running. We just missed getting on a small one as it was full, so we had to wait about 10-12 minutes for the next one which was the larger craft.
 
First, a few pictures then I'll write some random observations about our trip (22-26 Dec). . .

Perfect seats for the holiday parade. We discovered these a couple of years ago. The only trick is getting there early enough to claim one of those coveted spots. Someone was live blogging the entire parade to our immediate right in case you might have been watching him
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Luv's favorite characters in the parade
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My favorite characters in the parade
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And some deer
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First, a few pictures then I'll write some random observations about our trip (22-26 Dec). . .

Perfect seats for the holiday parade. We discovered these a couple of years ago. The only trick is getting there early enough to claim one of those coveted spots. Someone was live blogging the entire parade to our immediate right in case you might have been watching him
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Luv's favorite characters in the parade
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My favorite characters in the parade
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And some deer
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Wow what a great place to sit!
 
Now, for some observations and recommendations from our trip. . .

We arrived on 22 Dec around 3 p.m. after a six-hour drive (that usually takes only 5 hours). Literally, as we walked through the front doorway of the Lodge, we got a "room ready" text. Ah, the scent, the sights, the soaring architecture--marvelous as always. The scent was harder to detect given the wearing of masks, but after 15 seconds or so, we finally got the whiffs of that unmistakable Lodge homecoming scent. The VWL building itself was even stronger, partially because that leather/woodsy aroma was mixed in with the current and ubiquitous 50th anniversary scent, Iridescents. Yes, that's an actual thing, and it's overpoweringly obnoxious. Anyway, we were assigned 4537 and it was a great room (I posted previous pics from the balcony).

On to my random notes:
- Recommend Amare restaurant at the new Swan Reserve hotel. Similar to Topolino's with some excellent Mediterranean selections such as lamb/beef polpetti meatballs, charred octopus, fried calamari, and manti--which are similar to ravioli and stuffed with lamb. The meatballs and octopus were topnotch, the manti good, and the calamari decent. Service was also good.
- Geyser Point was only okay; they no longer serve their scrumptious waffle fries. "Oh, we might get them back sometime in the spring," claimed our server. Sigh. The cheesy beef brisket dip was mildly disappointing as the original brisket feel has given way to more of a ground beef texture and seemed sweeter than I recall. The house made chips were plentiful, however. And, the low couch-like chairs and tables in the main dining area have been replaced by actual chairs and tables which allows for more people to sit there now--a good thing. The old seats/tables are now out by the water and do not qualify as tables to be serviced by the wait staff. You can order food to go and sit there, but the servers don't actually go to those locations.
- Can't say enough about on off-site restaurant, BiCE. It's located at the Portofino Hotel at Universal Studios. We'd been there before and loved it--our return trip this year only amplified our feelings. I had the osso buco with saffron risotto while Luv had the penne arrabiata with shrimp. Simply stunning. Their wine list is extensive, too, so you can definitely find a wine to suit your tastes. We sat outside on their balcony that overlooked the "lake" around which Portofino sits. Service was impeccable, and the bread service (comes with the meal) was topnotch with extremely fresh EVOO and a balsamic vinegar as dipping sauces. We Lyfted there and back so as to not have to drive in the holiday traffic, especially after having some wine with our meals.
- Decorations do seem to be a bit muted. Even the tree in the Lodge seemed so, although in comparing pictures from a couple of years ago, there doesn't seem to be much change. They have taken out some of the color of the baubles that adorn the tree, it appears, and replaced them with more muted items. The parade we caught also seemed, well, tamped down a bit. As witnessed in the pictures I posted above, there were fewer characters: only four gingerbread people, five soldiers (none with horns), and only seven reindeer including a no-show by Rudolph. Further, I counted 15 characters in and around the opening float in this same parade from two years ago, yet there were only 10 in and around the same float this year. Moreover, there were fewer actual vehicles/floats, ergo, a shorter parade. Yes, this might have to do with Covid, but Disney has a way of reducing events and people with clearly logical reasoning and then never getting back to the original version.
- The original nature trail is almost completely grown over. We had thoughts about climbing over the fence and walking down it anyway, but I figured with our luck, some nascent security guard stumbling across us and booting us out of the hotel. We also walked over to the once well-used paved bike/walking path to FW, and it, too, is overgrown and mostly ripped up what we could see of it. They had no trespassing and not photography signs there, but I took a couple of shots anyway. I believe I posted a pic earlier, but I'll do so again so you don't have to go hunting.
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This trail ain't coming back, at least not in the foreseeable future. What a loss.
- We only hit two of the four parks by choice. We did DHS early in order to go on RnR and ToT, then sat down on a bench with a Starbucks latte and people-watched. A big, extended family of all adults did a TikTok challenge right in front of us, and I wound up taking a group photo for them. The other park obviously was MK, and we made the EMH that morning, too, but naturally, the only lands open were Fantasy and Tomorrow, so our options were limited--all we did was IASW and then waited to walk with several hundred people at rope drop to head over to BTMR and then POTC before calling it a morning and having a quick meal before settling in at our spot to watch the parade at noon. The parks were crowded, but we weren't in them long enough for it to matter.
- Much of our leisure time we spent sitting on the balcony or lounging in the hot tub at the quiet pool. Of course, we did sit at the fireplaces in the VWL building, though the smaller fireplace nook to the right when you first enter the VWL lobby was only lighted the first two days we were there. Overall, the whole resort (WL, that is) seemed, well, muted. The decorations are mostly all there...but not entirely. The CMs were fewer (again, scant bell service personnel) and the flickering lanterns weren't. Although the majesty of the grand dame WL is still there, some of the warmth and excitement has wandered off. No longer are you guaranteed to be warmly greeted out front by a CM or be met by someone who will gladly help you with your luggage.

Overall, we enjoyed our trip, savored parts of it, but in this one man's opinion, Disney has let some of the mystique and embrace of the Lodge disappear, and I fear they'll not bring it back. If you have any questions, feel free to ask, my fellow Groupies!
 
Now, for some observations and recommendations from our trip. . .

We arrived on 22 Dec around 3 p.m. after a six-hour drive (that usually takes only 5 hours). Literally, as we walked through the front doorway of the Lodge, we got a "room ready" text. Ah, the scent, the sights, the soaring architecture--marvelous as always. The scent was harder to detect given the wearing of masks, but after 15 seconds or so, we finally got the whiffs of that unmistakable Lodge homecoming scent. The VWL building itself was even stronger, partially because that leather/woodsy aroma was mixed in with the current and ubiquitous 50th anniversary scent, Iridescents. Yes, that's an actual thing, and it's overpoweringly obnoxious. Anyway, we were assigned 4537 and it was a great room (I posted previous pics from the balcony).

On to my random notes:
- Recommend Amare restaurant at the new Swan Reserve hotel. Similar to Topolino's with some excellent Mediterranean selections such as lamb/beef polpetti meatballs, charred octopus, fried calamari, and manti--which are similar to ravioli and stuffed with lamb. The meatballs and octopus were topnotch, the manti good, and the calamari decent. Service was also good.
- Geyser Point was only okay; they no longer serve their scrumptious waffle fries. "Oh, we might get them back sometime in the spring," claimed our server. Sigh. The cheesy beef brisket dip was mildly disappointing as the original brisket feel has given way to more of a ground beef texture and seemed sweeter than I recall. The house made chips were plentiful, however. And, the low couch-like chairs and tables in the main dining area have been replaced by actual chairs and tables which allows for more people to sit there now--a good thing. The old seats/tables are now out by the water and do not qualify as tables to be serviced by the wait staff. You can order food to go and sit there, but the servers don't actually go to those locations.
- Can't say enough about on off-site restaurant, BiCE. It's located at the Portofino Hotel at Universal Studios. We'd been there before and loved it--our return trip this year only amplified our feelings. I had the osso buco with saffron risotto while Luv had the penne arrabiata with shrimp. Simply stunning. Their wine list is extensive, too, so you can definitely find a wine to suit your tastes. We sat outside on their balcony that overlooked the "lake" around which Portofino sits. Service was impeccable, and the bread service (comes with the meal) was topnotch with extremely fresh EVOO and a balsamic vinegar as dipping sauces. We Lyfted there and back so as to not have to drive in the holiday traffic, especially after having some wine with our meals.
- Decorations do seem to be a bit muted. Even the tree in the Lodge seemed so, although in comparing pictures from a couple of years ago, there doesn't seem to be much change. They have taken out some of the color of the baubles that adorn the tree, it appears, and replaced them with more muted items. The parade we caught also seemed, well, tamped down a bit. As witnessed in the pictures I posted above, there were fewer characters: only four gingerbread people, five soldiers (none with horns), and only seven reindeer including a no-show by Rudolph. Further, I counted 15 characters in and around the opening float in this same parade from two years ago, yet there were only 10 in and around the same float this year. Moreover, there were fewer actual vehicles/floats, ergo, a shorter parade. Yes, this might have to do with Covid, but Disney has a way of reducing events and people with clearly logical reasoning and then never getting back to the original version.
- The original nature trail is almost completely grown over. We had thoughts about climbing over the fence and walking down it anyway, but I figured with our luck, some nascent security guard stumbling across us and booting us out of the hotel. We also walked over to the once well-used paved bike/walking path to FW, and it, too, is overgrown and mostly ripped up what we could see of it. They had no trespassing and not photography signs there, but I took a couple of shots anyway. I believe I posted a pic earlier, but I'll do so again so you don't have to go hunting.
View attachment 634088
This trail ain't coming back, at least not in the foreseeable future. What a loss.
- We only hit two of the four parks by choice. We did DHS early in order to go on RnR and ToT, then sat down on a bench with a Starbucks latte and people-watched. A big, extended family of all adults did a TikTok challenge right in front of us, and I wound up taking a group photo for them. The other park obviously was MK, and we made the EMH that morning, too, but naturally, the only lands open were Fantasy and Tomorrow, so our options were limited--all we did was IASW and then waited to walk with several hundred people at rope drop to head over to BTMR and then POTC before calling it a morning and having a quick meal before settling in at our spot to watch the parade at noon. The parks were crowded, but we weren't in them long enough for it to matter.
- Much of our leisure time we spent sitting on the balcony or lounging in the hot tub at the quiet pool. Of course, we did sit at the fireplaces in the VWL building, though the smaller fireplace nook to the right when you first enter the VWL lobby was only lighted the first two days we were there. Overall, the whole resort (WL, that is) seemed, well, muted. The decorations are mostly all there...but not entirely. The CMs were fewer (again, scant bell service personnel) and the flickering lanterns weren't. Although the majesty of the grand dame WL is still there, some of the warmth and excitement has wandered off. No longer are you guaranteed to be warmly greeted out front by a CM or be met by someone who will gladly help you with your luggage.

Overall, we enjoyed our trip, savored parts of it, but in this one man's opinion, Disney has let some of the mystique and embrace of the Lodge disappear, and I fear they'll not bring it back. If you have any questions, feel free to ask, my fellow Groupies!
Thank you Sleepy. Yeah your comment about being not being greeted is one that really disappointed me. Who doesn't want to hear "Welcome Home" when you get to your resort? It is all part of the experience. I was so bummed that I didn't get to hear that last time.
 
Sleepy...thank you for the pictures and your detailed impressions of your recent visit. There are many changes that Disney has made that fail to raise the excitement bar for upcoming trips. But we still look forward to going back since it has now been over two years. I think as long as they don't change the lobbies, the ambiance will still be there.

It will just put a little more onus on Mrs. Granny and I to generate our own magic while we are there. I can't say that I have any negative feelings towards Disney or WDW, it just feels like it is becoming more of a setting for good times rather than the generator of good times, if that makes any sense. And a setting for good times isn't a condemnation by any means.
 
Hello!
We will be staying pre-cruise one day/night at Boulder Ridge in April. Planning to just explore the resort and swim.
1.) What restaurant would you recommend we make reservations for?
2.) Can you view MK fireworks from the lodge?

Thanks!
 
Hello!
We will be staying pre-cruise one day/night at Boulder Ridge in April. Planning to just explore the resort and swim.
1.) What restaurant would you recommend we make reservations for?
2.) Can you view MK fireworks from the lodge?

Thanks!
1) The best place there is Geyser Point, and you can't make reservations.
2) From the edge of Bay Lake next to Geyser Point (music is piped in) and from the balconies of rooms on the lake view side, floors 3, 4, and 5--the higher the floor, the more you can see.
 



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