VQ permanent for ROR

[AngiTN]

I’m not sure if OP would agree to do so, but I feel that simply adding a question mark at the end of the thread title would be a very helpful step for all who are looking through the titles for news, etc. The way the title is worded makes it seem like this idea is a fact rather than speculation.

Exactly. That and changing the wording that he back tracked when called out where the info was given as fact and official vs a random guests opinion. Opinions are fine, given around here all the time. But should always be labeled that way

i mean I’m not clear on where this quote says it’s anyone’s opinion. I didn’t change any words, this is the exact post

Was txtn my buddy about ROR and I was telling him how well the vq system is working and that I thought Disney should keep it this way and he said they are, said the vq was never a temporary system and was always setup to remain in place for ROR. ......
but as for ROR staying vq, my buddy said that's official and came from Disney. Anyone heard this.

Sure OP posted some thoughts and theories but that isn’t what he’s being questioned on. It’s the facts this buddy has “from Disney”.
They aren’t official facts at all. Not unless this dude is some high up Disney employee

 

[CampbellzSoup]

No, he doesn't work for Disney, good one though, ha. Hes just a huge Disney guy, an AP holder and DVC member that follows Disney really close. He is usually spot on with his info. So time will tell.

So he knows nothing?

 

[Weedy]

Maybe they’ll ... allow Fast Passes but still do Boarding Groups.
I think this would be the best of both worlds.

 

[focusondisney]

No, he doesn't work for Disney, good one though, ha. Hes just a huge Disney guy, an AP holder and DVC member that follows Disney really close. He is usually spot on with his info. So time will tell.

So he’s just like a whole lot of the rest of us who post here on the Dis....we’re also huge Disney peeps, AP holders & DVC members that follow Disney really close? So I guess our opinions are just as good as his then.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I would argue nothing is permanent at Disney. At the very least the way the queue is built for both ROTR and MSFR IMO says that Disney does intend to have the option to add FP+ and traditional SB eventually. My personal speculation is that the VQ sticks around at least as long as it takes for ROTR to prove itself to be reliable. I think it is interesting though that someone reported surveys from the research CMs asking about VQ for FoP.

As much as people still get overwhelmed and confused with Disney planning, I would be very surprised if they end up running free FP+ for some attractions, paid FP+ for others, and VQ for headliners all at the same time. That has way more moving parts and options and would be a nightmare for anybody who isn’t Disney obsessed or wealthy enough to throw money at it to uncomplicate it. And then throw in planned ADRs, yikes!

I think paid is coming in some form eventually, Ive thought that since club level paid FP+ was announced. I’m glad my next trip is before the Genie thing because that seems like a great time to launch it. However I would be surprised if Disney basically said you need to pay to prebook anything worthwhile, as I have to imagine locking people into Disney plans from home is still as important as it was way back when FP+ was announced.

 

[Alynw]

Maybe they’ll ... allow Fast Passes but still do Boarding Groups.
I think this would be the best of both worlds.

Exactly what I said, thank u

 

[Alynw]

So he knows nothing?

So show me proof otherwise. Prove him wrong. Wait, u cant now can u. U can come in here and say it so but not one single person has shown any shred of proof. U say, they spend billions on fp, which is a laugh, it maybe cost a few million to setup and integrate into mde, u can build an entire new wdw for billions so I just ignore those type of comments for obvious reasons but they have spent just as much money on their vq system and also integrated it into mde. So they wont get rid of one because they spent the money on it but they will get ride of the other that they spent money on. That logic makes no sense at all, so prove that vq is temporary. Everyone comes in here to just criticize and say not true, never happen but yet no one person has brought one ounce of proof, nothing. Far as I'm concerned, u guys have proven my point, no way Disney going spend millions on a system like fp and dump it, so thanks, since that's what everyone considers their proof then that's all the proof I need, Disney spent millions on building and implementing their new vq system and their not going just dump, so there is my proof with everyone own words. Now show me one little piece, even a sentence where Disney says vq is going away. Cause Disney did not have to go as far as they have with their vq system, they could've very easily setup a temp system for ROR separate from mde but they chose to integrate into mde for a reason. Restaurant use a vq reservation system all the time that will allow u to sign up and get a txt when its ur time with a suggested window for return. Disney could've used something similar and would've only cost them pennies with the same results as the boarding groups but no, they decided to actually create, design and build their own unique process and integrate it into the heart of everything, mde. If u didn't know, when u integrate something like into mde, u can't just remove it with snap of finger, it will take time and lots more money if not just as much as it cost to implement it, to remove it and I don't see Disney wasting this kinda money on a tempt system when there were already several other options available at their fingertips at little to no cost.

 

[JETSDAD]

So show me proof otherwise. Prove him wrong. Wait, u cant now can u. U can come in here and say it so but not one single person has shown any shred of proof. U say, they spend billions on fp, which is a laugh, it maybe cost a few million to setup and integrate into mde, u can build an entire new wdw for billions so I just ignore those type of comments for obvious reasons but they have spent just as much money on their vq system and also integrated it into mde. So they wont get rid of one because they spent the money on it but they will get ride of the other that they spent money on. That logic makes no sense at all, so prove that vq is temporary. Everyone comes in here to just criticize and say not true, never happen but yet no one person has brought one ounce of proof, nothing. Far as I'm concerned, u guys have proven my point, no way Disney going spend millions on a system like fp and dump it, so thanks, since that's what everyone considers their proof then that's all the proof I need, Disney spent millions on building and implementing their new vq system and their not going just dump, so there is my proof with everyone own words. Now show me one little piece, even a sentence where Disney says vq is going away. Cause Disney did not have to go as far as they have with their vq system, they could've very easily setup a temp system for ROR separate from mde but they chose to integrate into mde for a reason. Restaurant use a vq reservation system all the time that will allow u to sign up and get a txt when its ur time with a suggested window for return. Disney could've used something similar and would've only cost them pennies with the same results as the boarding groups but no, they decided to actually create, design and build their own unique process and integrate it into the heart of everything, mde. If u didn't know, when u integrate something like into mde, u can't just remove it with snap of finger, it will take time and lots more money if not just as much as it cost to implement it, to remove it and I don't see Disney wasting this kinda money on a tempt system when there were already several other options available at their fingertips at little to no cost.

Disney did spend over $1billion on Fastpass+/MB's.

 

[CampbellzSoup]

So show me proof otherwise. Prove him wrong. Wait, u cant now can u. U can come in here and say it so but not one single person has shown any shred of proof. U say, they spend billions on fp, which is a laugh, it maybe cost a few million to setup and integrate into mde, u can build an entire new wdw for billions so I just ignore those type of comments for obvious reasons but they have spent just as much money on their vq system and also integrated it into mde. So they wont get rid of one because they spent the money on it but they will get ride of the other that they spent money on. That logic makes no sense at all, so prove that vq is temporary. Everyone comes in here to just criticize and say not true, never happen but yet no one person has brought one ounce of proof, nothing. Far as I'm concerned, u guys have proven my point, no way Disney going spend millions on a system like fp and dump it, so thanks, since that's what everyone considers their proof then that's all the proof I need, Disney spent millions on building and implementing their new vq system and their not going just dump, so there is my proof with everyone own words. Now show me one little piece, even a sentence where Disney says vq is going away. Cause Disney did not have to go as far as they have with their vq system, they could've very easily setup a temp system for ROR separate from mde but they chose to integrate into mde for a reason. Restaurant use a vq reservation system all the time that will allow u to sign up and get a txt when its ur time with a suggested window for return. Disney could've used something similar and would've only cost them pennies with the same results as the boarding groups but no, they decided to actually create, design and build their own unique process and integrate it into the heart of everything, mde. If u didn't know, when u integrate something like into mde, u can't just remove it with snap of finger, it will take time and lots more money if not just as much as it cost to implement it, to remove it and I don't see Disney wasting this kinda money on a tempt system when there were already several other options available at their fingertips at little to no cost.

He knows nothing. I have to show you proof of your gossip?

 

[Alynw]

Vq just like fp is here to stay, like fp I'm sure vq will have some changes and evolve over time but all the new upcoming rides are going to see some form of vq. 10 yr from now when Disney opens a new ride, its going use some sort of vq,. A temp system is one that goes away and vq is not going away. There might be times when the crowds are so low they dont need to use it just like rite after the opening of swge but that's how vq is designed, universal vq works the same, there has to be a large crowd for it to work, so i dont want hear, told ya so, during the slow days when rides are walk on and vq nor fp is needed, it's when and only when Disney removes all vq from mde and does away it, cause as far as I'm concerned it's not going away. Moving forward we are going to see the use of vq in some form or another. Rentz, u can close this thread, its turned into a bunch of arguments without any real constructive conversation.

 

[Jennasis]

Slinky Dog and FoP are insanely popular rides too. Why no virtual queue for them?

 

[Alynw]

He knows nothing. I have to show you proof of your gossip?

U serious, lol. Disney is currently using vq and has never stated its going away, that's not gossip, thats fact. The fact u say its going away without Disney saying or showing that is where the speculation is, wow. It is u in fact that is speculating what Disney has currently implemented and currently using will go away. Crazy

 

[Alynw]

Slinky Dog and FoP are insanely popular rides too. Why no virtual queue for them?

Really, why waste time with this crap. They just released vq and ROR is their test run. It takes time before they fix all the bugs and evolve the system and add other attractions. I'm done replying cause post like this are just stupid.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Slinky Dog and FoP are insanely popular rides too. Why no virtual queue for them?

I remember reading I think on a Facebook group someone being asked about it in a survey by one of the in park research CMs. I’m pretty sure just FoP was mentioned. Could mean nothing of course, also possible that person wasn’t even telling the truth, but it’s interesting to speculate.

I think VQs for the mega headliners could co exist with FP+ for them nicely and could be a best of both worlds kind of situation where nobody is faced with spending hours in a standby line, but throwing paid FP in makes it really messy and would really change park touring as we know it, I think.

 

[Jennasis]

I remember reading I think on a Facebook group someone being asked about it in a survey by one of the in park research CMs. I’m pretty sure just FoP was mentioned. Could mean nothing of course, also possible that person wasn’t even telling the truth, but it’s interesting to speculate.

I think VQs for the mega headliners could co exist with FP+ for them nicely and could be a best of both worlds kind of situation where nobody is faced with spending hours in a standby line, but throwing paid FP in makes it really messy and would really change park touring as we know it, I think.

They used boarding groups for the first couple of days for Smugglers Run before dropping it, right?

 

[DGsAtBLT]

They used boarding groups for the first couple of days for Smugglers Run before dropping it, right?

IIRC it was just for the land itself and it was dropped sometime during the first day.

 

[yulilin3]

closing this thread for all the obvious reasons. Any further CIVIL discussion on bg and vq and fp for RotR can be made in the attractions thread on this sub forum