VIP Fastpass question

[doconeill]

Since the thread has been woken up again, I think I should add this (particularly given the quoted text)...

The GAC works differently for different people - because the GAC itself doesn't do anything. What is written/printed ON the GAC defines what can generally be done, and lets the CMs at the attractions know. So in the case of the PP with the child who cannot handle being in the line, that would be stated on the card and the CMs would accommodate as best they can for that attraction. If that means using the FP line, or back door, or whatever, so be it. A couple of people getting backdoored isn't going to end the world for everyone else. But in our case with DFiL it only meant using the accessible entrance so he could take the ECV as far as possible and then transfer, and we could go with him (so he didn't have to do it alone). It had nothing to do with shortening his wait, although it some cases it did. In other cases not so much (it was a long wait for them to bring vehicles to the accessible platform at TSM, for instance). In shows, it was actually something of a disadvantage as he was always as far away as you could be.

 

[RescueRanger]

Since the thread has been woken up again, I think I should add this (particularly given the quoted text)...

.... A couple of people getting backdoored isn't going to end the world for everyone else......

You owe me a new keyboard. That's what I get for drinking while I read these boards.

 

[gmoore32]

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/disney_patron_sues_for_more_rides_on_tower_of_terror

here is a story of a woman who was denied repeated access with a gac...
maybe this is why the cms are so accomodating

 

[doconeill]

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/disney_patron_sues_for_more_rides_on_tower_of_terror

here is a story of a woman who was denied repeated access with a gac...
maybe this is why the cms are so accomodating

There was a lot more to it than that. Disney felt she was abusing the privilege of the GAC. She claimed it was to help her medically, saying it helped relieve her of the pain of abdominal scar adhesions or something like that. Disney countered that it does not provide medical therapy services and Tower Of Terror was not a medical device.

Most of the reports seemed focused on her having a GAC card, claiming that card itself allowed her special access. But as I said, the GAC card says nothing, actually, except what the Guest Services CM puts on it. Often they mark it to allow use of the "accessible" entrance - they actually have a stamp for that one.

She was told she would need to limit her use regardless of the GAC, and week later the managers no longer wanted to allow her GAC to get her backdoored, she caused a scene and was trespassed from the park. Then she filed suit.

Not sure what dispensation has occurred, if any yet.

 

[Cheshire Figment]

The GAC itself specifically states on it that it is not intended to bypass lines or reduce wait time for any attraction. The only exception relates to the "Green Light" stamp which is only for children on a "Wish Trip" who may either be terminally ill or medically fragile.

 

[>Ash<]

My first thought was they were part of Make A Wish but you said there was alot of people doing this so I have no idea!

Make a wish foundation in disney world is what the cast members refered to as green lighted which means they get access to alot of attractions faster and some of the character meet and greets also. make a wish is for very terminally ill children. so it could be make a wish you have seen they carry a card similar to the GAC.

i myself use the GAC system as i myself am disabled. this does not instantly get you access onto any of the rides it somtimes on the older rides does get you on faster but i assure you it balances out when you wait a very long time for TSM in HS or waiting for Haunted Mansion as your taken through an alternative entrance.

ive been victim to alot of abuse over the GAC system in the park and i assure people they will always ride before i do as you do still wait for nearly all disney attractions.

had my 2p worth hope its been helpful to iron out some of these ...

im not arguing with anyone nor do i mean to offend or anything im just letting people know my view of the situation thanks.

 

[>Ash<]

There was a lot more to it than that. Disney felt she was abusing the privilege of the GAC. She claimed it was to help her medically, saying it helped relieve her of the pain of abdominal scar adhesions or something like that. Disney countered that it does not provide medical therapy services and Tower Of Terror was not a medical device.

Most of the reports seemed focused on her having a GAC card, claiming that card itself allowed her special access. But as I said, the GAC card says nothing, actually, except what the Guest Services CM puts on it. Often they mark it to allow use of the "accessible" entrance - they actually have a stamp for that one.

She was told she would need to limit her use regardless of the GAC, and week later the managers no longer wanted to allow her GAC to get her backdoored, she caused a scene and was trespassed from the park. Then she filed suit.

Not sure what dispensation has occurred, if any yet.

hahaha Tower Of Terror waiting line is big enough for a wheel chair and the GAC cannot really be used on this ride. i myself have been on ToT with a GaC and no special access is permited on this ride. standard queing only.

 

[Chernabog#1fan]

hahaha Tower Of Terror waiting line is big enough for a wheel chair and the GAC cannot really be used on this ride. i myself have been on ToT with a GaC and no special access is permited on this ride. standard queing only.

This is not entirely true. If the GAC has the arrows on it, than the person can use the fastpass line. This is what the lady was doing.

 

[doconeill]

This is not entirely true. If the GAC has the arrows on it, than the person can use the fastpass line. This is what the lady was doing.

She actually used a combination of the Fastpass line and backdoor.

However, I saw nothing to indicate that her condition required either.

 

[rie'smom]

There are VIP tours that anyone can purchase. The first has a Disney CM running around getting the group FPs as they become available and is I believe limited to 1 park. The second tour has unlimited FPs for all of the parks- well actually you don't need FPs. Basically you go straight to the front of the line. Expensive but definitely worth it during very busy times. I saw another VIP group wearing lanyards. The mom was a DIS member who got designs from the Creative Disigns board.

 

[Jonell]

She actually used a combination of the Fastpass line and backdoor.

However, I saw nothing to indicate that her condition required either.

Most guest that qualify for GAC that allow FP/Alternative entrances have disabilities that are not visable. My husband has an ileostomy and has to visit the restroom sometimes as often as every 20-30 mins. So waiting in longer lines is impossible for him. He looks like an able bodied person, but he would not be able to visit most attractions without this GAC.

 

[rie'smom]

Most guest that qualify for GAC that allow FP/Alternative entrances have disabilities that are not visable. My husband has an ileostomy and has to visit the restroom sometimes as often as every 20-30 mins. So waiting in longer lines is impossible for him. He looks like an able bodied person, but he would not be able to visit most attractions without this GAC.

My niece who comes with us has a blood disorder that makes her immune deficient. Looking at her you would never know she's sick but her doctor has suggested using alternate entrances to avoid being in the middle of a bunch of people in the regular lines.

 

[doconeill]

Most guest that qualify for GAC that allow FP/Alternative entrances have disabilities that are not visable. My husband has an ileostomy and has to visit the restroom sometimes as often as every 20-30 mins. So waiting in longer lines is impossible for him. He looks like an able bodied person, but he would not be able to visit most attractions without this GAC.

My niece who comes with us has a blood disorder that makes her immune deficient. Looking at her you would never know she's sick but her doctor has suggested using alternate entrances to avoid being in the middle of a bunch of people in the regular lines.

FYI, I'm not disputing there are needs...I was only referring to this particular case and her published claims.

 

[rie'smom]

FYI, I'm not disputing there are needs...I was only referring to this particular case and her published claims.

Oh, I didn't take your post that way at all. I was just posting our experience.

 

[Cheesehead9]

I was at MK a couple weeks ago and have never seen so many people with some type of special fastpass that gets the entire family to the front of the line. Some were on lanyards, some were hand held. Non of the folks using them looked like celebrities, none were being guided by a CM, they really looked like regular everyday families. What gives? Are these things for sale on the sly?

Sorry to bring this thread back to life, but I think you are referring to passes sometimes handed to children who are not tall enough to board a ride once they arrive to the front of the line. The passes generally have an animated picture of the ride in question on the front, and on the back say something along the lines of come back when you're tall enough to ride. They are about the size of a credit card.

We have one we're planning to use on our upcoming trip and from everything we've been told, you simply show the card to the CM and they lead your entire group to the fastpass line.

 

[doconeill]

Sorry to bring this thread back to life, but I think you are referring to passes sometimes handed to children who are not tall enough to board a ride once they arrive to the front of the line. The passes generally have an animated picture of the ride in question on the front, and on the back say something along the lines of come back when you're tall enough to ride. They are about the size of a credit card.

We have one we're planning to use on our upcoming trip and from everything we've been told, you simply show the card to the CM and they lead your entire group to the fastpass line.

I've seen those cards before, and it appears that the CMs will accept them as a Fastpass, although they don't actually say anything on them that the are actually any sort of Fastpass. They say something more like "you'll be able to ride when you are tall enough". They seemed to originally be intended just as something to give a kid as a recovery mechanism. They didn't always give them out either, and I haven't really seen them used. Seems unlikely there would be a large number of them.

 

[Cheesehead9]

Yeah, it doesn't say anything about getting into the FP line, also there is very little discussion about them anywhere (probably good things). It would seem, however, that all CM's are familiar with them and instructed to allow the entire party to enter the FP line, no questions asked. Thus, they are the equivalent of a "Super VIP Fastpass."

If there are any CM's on this board, maybe they could weigh-in and let us know more about them.

 

[Disneyman_10]

This happened to my family a few years ago. We were getting our picture taken at MK and a CM came up to us, sweet talked us .....
And gave us fast passes to all the attractions available and we got to go to a special seat for the parade. We were the only ones at the spot and all the characters gave hugs to my youngest sister.



I have also heard of families with black cards who get the best of everything all the time at the parks. Front of the line, reservations above others, and their choice of hotel rooms. All unlimmited by the way.

 

[doconeill]

This happened to my family a few years ago. We were getting our picture taken at MK and a CM came up to us, sweet talked us .....
And gave us fast passes to all the attractions available and we got to go to a special seat for the parade. We were the only ones at the spot and all the characters gave hugs to my youngest sister.

Sounds like the Dream Fastpasses given out during the Year Of A Million Dreams (which actually ran more than two years), except for the parade seating - that sounded like one of the extras they were also giving out at the time - a double bonus!

I have also heard of families with black cards who get the best of everything all the time at the parks. Front of the line, reservations above others, and their choice of hotel rooms. All unlimmited by the way.

Never heard of these things at all.

 

[Disneyman_10]

Sounds like the Dream Fastpasses given out during the Year Of A Million Dreams (which actually ran more than two years), except for the parade seating - that sounded like one of the extras they were also giving out at the time - a double bonus!



Never heard of these things at all.

I think these cards are something with visa, more of a social status card. Disney (and other companies) sees that they have the card which implies that they are willing to spend the extra money