Villians Sinister Soirée

Does anyone know the refund/cancellation policy on tickets to the soiree? Plus, is there a list of sold-out dates available? I'm thinking of doing the late seating on Sept. 16, but some in my party are wavering (it'll be our first time at MNSSHP and we want to enjoy the party). I'd like to see how reviews on later nights turn out, specifically whether people are happy with the vantage point for the fireworks.

We originally booked the soiree twice on Tuesday/Friday next week because I wasn't sure about my schedule or how the party was going to go. I think I'm finalized now and sticking with the Tuesday (early) party. I just cancelled my Friday night (late seating) for 2. The CM said it would be refunded to my card and read me the last 4 digits of the card it would be returned in full to. PLUS I also decided $400 dollars (2 adults/2 nights) was a waste of $200, one soiree is enough Now:thumbsup2 I can put that towards an art piece at DTD gallery next week instead.
 
If you would take note, most people in this thread don't have an issue with Disney offering a.premium event. They take issue with lessening the base experience to create the.premium experience. It isn't a requirement to lessen something in order to offer something else - especially when the prices are increasing every year.

Note definitely taken. I don't happen to agree that MNSSHP has been devalued by the adding of VSS, but everyone has their opinion. :confused3

Saw this come across Twitter 10min ago... not sure if already posted but it's WDWNT's full review with pics (I followed them and posted links from their live tweeting last night):

http://wdwnt.com/?p=21005

Love how this guy breaks down the 'value' aspect. Price point sounds just about right when viewed from this perspective.
 
I am completely torn now. I am worried about not having enough time to go around trick or treating. Based on the pictures I won't eat any of the desserts shown...I had kind of wanted the experience so I am back and forth right now.
 
Has anyone tried for a refund yet? Based on the original announcement for the beginning ticket sales said Villains MIX & MINGLE? Whish means they are meet able in my mind. I'm just wondering if anyone has gotten one or heard of someone getting one. That would be good guest service in my mind, actually putting them back after the stage would be better but it was such a chaotic mess all these years. Kids and parents pushing, cutting in front it was not worth it.

I heard that some had gotten refunds after they asked.
 

ShannonMB said:
Note definitely taken. I don't happen to agree that MNSSHP has been devalued by the adding of VSS, but everyone has their opinion. :confused3.

Whether or not it is worth it is subjective, I agree.

Whether or not the base price gets you access to the same amount of benefits (rides, characters, etc) is not. They have lessened the number of characters that can be met (meet and greet style), while charging the same or more for admission.

While that may not change whether the event is worth it or not to someone, objectively it is Disney offering less for the same money or more.
 
I haven't seen or read one thing that discourages me from being totally excited about this!!! It looks amazing in every way! I'm sure later parties with heavier attendance will be a bit different, but just want to say ktml, if you are following this thread, THANKS for peer-pressuring me into this!! :rotfl: If I didn't already have tickets in my pocket, I'd be calling today. For a villains fan like myself, this is pretty much a dream come true!

I'm still here reading every word! :rotfl: You are welcome! I'm really excited about it too! I'm still not 100% on it as I want to see some more reports for the next few parties and see if they change anything, if the parade area gets more crowded, and make sure the villians stay the same, but I'm betting that we are going to keep it! I'm really glad I booked it so we have the option.

If we weren't going to MNSSHP a second night, I probably wouldn't keep it as we aren't doing the 2nd seating. I think for those doing only one party and the early seating, the event is only for a really strong villians fan who cares more about that than anything else, because you really aren't going to enjoy much of the party. I consider it more as paying $165 a ticket for the Soiree ( and the parade benefits etc.), as by the time you do all that, you are really not going to have much time at all to do any of the other party stuff. You might catch a character or 2 before hitting the parade area if you are lucky, but if it is an hour, then by the time you get out, the characters are gone and the party is close to winding up. Now if you did the late seating, it would be great because you could enjoy almost all the party before the soiree, but for DD, 8, since we almost always do a full park day on party day, she is going to be done at midnight and I don't think she would get the full enjoyment if we started a party at 11:45.

For us, we usually do 2 parties (whether it is MNSSHP or MVMCP), as since DD is character crazy we find that it is pretty much impossible to see all the characters and do all the entertainment and other things in one party. We usually spend one party focusing on starting at one of the most popular characters (pre-party wait), then on the parades and shows(including the mingle), and maybe another popular character and anything else we can fit in between or before the party ends which often isn't much- and then we spend another party picking up the remainder of the characters, enjoying the atmosphere, etc. For us, we have spent an hour in line to meet the princes more than once as they were a DD priority, and we have also had to do two villians mix and mingles to catch who we wanted with the time that entailed- so basically we are just replacing that time with the soiree. Since the princes aren't there to meet anyway, we aren't losing anything. We are spending that time getting the meets that we did after the mix and mingle with the stepmother and stepsisters added without having to stand in line, in a fun setting, and with some music and food added in. That sounds great to me! For us, the price is steep, but we usually splurge some at WDW or DL anyway, and this one looks worth it.



For those who don't get why people are upset about the characters, I would just say that while they may not seem important to you, there are guests out there who do the party solely for the characters, and for whom the characters are the primary important thing at WDW. It may seem silly to some of you, but spending over $60 to spend your time riding rides that you could ride during the day just because the lines might be shorter, will seem silly to those people. We could care less about trick or treating at the party- we can do that at home on Halloween. All we get is a bunch of candy we don't need, and don't want to cart the weight back with us on the plane. Different people just have different likes and priorities. DD is a character nut. If we only went to one party, I wouldn't even get to see the parade or shows because we would spend the entire night going from character to character and nothing else and she would call it a great night. I can remember one regular day that we spent the entire day at MK in line for characters (and we did CRT and BBB), and I think we did 1 ride, 2 tops the entire day. DH and I were exhausted and sick of lines- DD was bouncing around yelling that it was "THE BEST DAY EVER". If DD were 5 or 6, I would be really sad that none of the princes, not even Flynn or Naveen were there because those were always a HUGE deal to her at parties when she was little. Also, it would be one thing if they just took the mingle away- but to actually officially announce that the Queen and Maleficent (who is hugely popular this year with her movie) were meeting and then to change their minds and pull them away, just rightly set people off. Also, I think the big issue here is not that there were changes, but rather that several characters were taken away without others being added. Yes, the villians dance party was added, but most of the characters there were already meetable somewhere at the party. So really what you have is several characters being taken away, with no new characters taking their place.


Has anyone tried for a refund yet? Based on the original announcement for the beginning ticket sales said Villains MIX & MINGLE?

I do not know anyone who did it based on the "mingle" part, but I do know a family who bought tickets solely because their DD is Maleficent crazy and they wanted to meet her. They called and threw a fit because of the official announcement that she would be meeting in Fairytale Hall which was subsequently withdrawn. They were given a refund. I'm not even sure that they bought tickets after the announcement, because there was discussion of how to position themselves to get near her at the mingle prior to that announcement- but it is possible they didn't actually buy tickets until after the announcement. In any event, they were refunded because Disney said she was meetable and then she was not.
 
I guess one of the questions this leaves me with is..if.its ok to take the villains from. MNSSHP and essentially say you have to buy this exclusive package to get to meet them, then where does it become not OK?

The Star Wars character meals were extremely popular this year. Is it OK to take those characters, who are the main purpose of the event, and make them accessible only by character meal? Next make Akershus the only place to see Anna and Elsa.

This is just the beginning. IMO,.the more they can do this with hard ticketed events,.the more we will see it in the parks everyday as well.
 
We try to make it down to Disney about once a year, and I love finding my old favorites. I also like to see changes. I am so confused by posts that say, "we saw all the princes last year and the 3 years before and we are so ticked off we can't do that exact same thing this year." Disney never put out an official statement reading, "From this day forward - throughout time and memorium, the princes shall appear with their princesses at MNSSHP!"

I know some people are mad that they aren't going to meet Maleficent with their child who is dressed as her, but MOST people don't realize that she was to the far left at the M&M in the past, and to line up right in that spot and hope not to get trampled to meet her. The average partygoer is not going to know that, and was most likely not going to meet Maleficent under those conditions.

A lot of people (probably a lot of frequent posters to this thread!) have been intrigued by the thought of a Villain character meal for a long time. Heck, we've been talking about it on the DIS for years. Here you go, you got it! Club Villain - seems pretty dang COOL, even though it's something new and not what it was last year. Does everyone want to just rewind the tape to when they were there with Woody last year? Maybe you didn't get to go last year and all you wanted was to dance with Woody? Well they gotta keep it fresh, so you can luckily still meet him at HS. I personally think the addition of the old hag witch from Snow White meeting near the Dwarves is a really cool addition to this year's party - but it's not even a blip on the radar because there's a preoccupation for what we aren't getting.

I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I just wanted to highlight the fact that sometimes change is good - something new and fresh (awesome new offering, new dance party, hag!). MAYBE this will be the best MNSSHP yet - with or without the soiree. If you go expecting it to suck, it probably will.

I agree with everything you said, No flaming here. I actually tried to say the same thing a few days ago but had a terrible reception. I think you were able to articulate my thoughts far better than I was. Judging by the similar response (although they went much easier on you) people still feel the same way about MNSSHP. I was hoping by some of the very positive reviews, it would have changed some minds.

Like it was said in another post, what Disney changes can drastically impact one person because it was their favorite and thats understandable. I am just frustrated with are people who refuse to be open to change and their immediate call to burn tires on Main St USA before we even know the facts. And anyone who post something positive is met with 15 posts from the DIS gang who venomously defends their right to disagree with Disney's decisions.

I mean we are all going to WDW to have an enjoyable vacation. I am assuming we can all agree on that one subject? I just dont see how people fixate on the negative but continue to plan vacations to WDW with nothing but complaints the entire time before and when they come back. How is that enjoyable to you or your family? Thats a bigger topic for another time.

Back to the topic. Here is my thoughts on MNSSHP and the Villians Soirée .
I am going to the MNSSHP but not the Soirée. We are going to enjoy the party and everything that it has to offer like shorter lines, trick or treating and the awesome Halloween vibe. Although I think the Soirée is a very cool VIP experience, its not for us. I think the setting in the castle, the decor, and the characters present is a really cool idea. I wont pretend for a minute, we would not eat a damn thing on that menu! Meeting those characters would be cool but in general, character meets are not that important to us.

With all of that said, If we dont get the MNSSHP limited magicbands and dont get to meet the witch for an apple, I AM NEVER COMING BACK!!!

(PS - can any of my "friends" buy my tickets and bands now? Since you are going to be walking around miserable anyway, you could be miserable waiting in line at the Trading Post for some guy you dont like!)
 
A lot of people (probably a lot of frequent posters to this thread!) have been intrigued by the thought of a Villain character meal for a long time. Heck, we've been talking about it on the DIS for years. Here

I think that belongs squarely in the category of "be careful what you wish for".

I think if you took a vote, very few would vote for it to cannibalize time at a separately paid for event.
 
I agree with everything you said, No flaming here. I actually tried to say the same thing a few days ago but had a terrible reception.

Maybe because this poster didn't resort to calling names?

Just an idea.
 
With all of that said, If we dont get the MNSSHP limited magicbands and dont get to meet the witch for an apple, I AM NEVER COMING BACK!!!

:rotfl: I knew I wasn't the only one who felt this way, but lots of us have probably left the thread by now for greener pastures. I'm only still here waiting to see if ktml saw my last post - which she did. ;)

The DIS takes tremendous turns from time to time. If I were just logging on for the first time in weeks, I would have expected, by the title, for this thread to be filled with soiree ticket holders expressing their glee at having a shot at this kind of experience! Such is the way of the boards. I can certainly imagine people not booking this experience because it's not their thing and/or they don't want to shell out the bucks if it isn't a priority. I can also completely understand some sour grapes if someone's main priority was no longer offered. I am just VERY excited for something my beloved Disney is offering, and that, for a change, I have a chance to partake in. So I'm just going to be on here whistling Dixie!
 
:rotfl: I knew I wasn't the only one who felt this way, but lots of us have probably left the thread by now for greener pastures. I'm only still here waiting to see if ktml saw my last post - which she did. ;)

:rotfl::rotfl2::rotfl: We are going to have a great time at the soiree!
 
The Star Wars character meals were extremely popular this year. Is it OK to take those characters, who are the main purpose of the event, and make them accessible only by character meal?

they were not accessible only by character meal. Stormtroopers and jawas were wandering characters. Darth Vader and Boba Fett had their own meet and greet line (Vader's was regularly over an hour long so you did save some time doing the breakfast if you wanted to meet him). I believe they did have Greedo, and he wasn't available anywhere else. Now if they change it this year, and say you can't meet Vader or Fett unless you book the breakfast, then it's an issue, but we have no idea yet. Still a lot of assumptions going around based on this event, on how future events might work.
 
Note definitely taken. I don't happen to agree that MNSSHP has been devalued by the adding of VSS, but everyone has their opinion. :confused3 Love how this guy breaks down the 'value' aspect. Price point sounds just about right when viewed from this perspective.
I liked that as well -- good way of phrasing it.

I guess one of the questions this leaves me with is..if.its ok to take the villains from. MNSSHP and essentially say you have to buy this exclusive package to get to meet them, then where does it become not OK? The Star Wars character meals were extremely popular this year. Is it OK to take those characters, who are the main purpose of the event, and make them accessible only by character meal? Next make Akershus the only place to see Anna and Elsa. This is just the beginning. IMO,.the more they can do this with hard ticketed events,.the more we will see it in the parks everyday as well.

I think when they go "too far", the market will speak, I guess. And if we hit our limit before that market speaks, we'll probably vacation elsewhere!
 
MakiraMarlena said:
they were not accessible only by character meal. Stormtroopers and jawas were wandering characters. Darth Vader and Boba Fett had their own meet and greet line (Vader's was regularly over an hour long so you did save some time doing the breakfast if you wanted to meet him). I believe they did have Greedo, and he wasn't available anywhere else. Now if they change it this year, and say you can't meet Vader or Fett unless you book the breakfast, then it's an issue, but we have no idea yet. Still a lot of assumptions going around based on this event, on how future events might work.

I didn't say they were only accessible by character meal this year. Nor was I making assumptions. I was putting forth the question - if making most of the villains for MNSSHP only meetable for the soiree is OK, then when else is OK? Does it then *become* ok to do something like taking Vader and only making him accessible during SWW via a paid event?

I was never saying this specifically (SWW) definitely going to happen. I'm simply saying that it is a *concern* I have given the decisions they have made with MNSSHP.
 
We originally booked the soiree twice on Tuesday/Friday next week because I wasn't sure about my schedule or how the party was going to go. I think I'm finalized now and sticking with the Tuesday (early) party. I just cancelled my Friday night (late seating) for 2. The CM said it would be refunded to my card and read me the last 4 digits of the card it would be returned in full to. PLUS I also decided $400 dollars (2 adults/2 nights) was a waste of $200, one soiree is enough Now:thumbsup2 I can put that towards an art piece at DTD gallery next week instead.

Oh how I wish I would have known that you were cancelling. I called this morning at 8 and next Friday is sold out. I wanted the late seating for 1. :guilty:
 
I went from being totally bummed that we decided to skip our regular October trip this year and thus were going to miss MNSSHP when they announced that Evil Queen would be meeting with Snow White and Aurora would be meeting with Maleficent, to totally relieved that we're not going this year. While I would have ponied up the money for the Soiree, it seems like it's a terrible value. The first seating makes you miss most of the party, and I'd think the second would be too late to be enjoyable for most young kids. I also don't find the desserts to be all that attractive (rhubarb is the work of the devil, IMO). With no princes, and no way to meet some of the Villians without paying extra, it seems to me that the value of MNSSHP has decreased dramatically this year.

So glad we're going to MVMCP in December instead!
 
I went from being totally bummed that we decided to skip our regular October trip this year and thus were going to miss MNSSHP when they announced that Evil Queen would be meeting with Snow White and Aurora would be meeting with Maleficent, to totally relieved that we're not going this year. While I would have ponied up the money for the Soiree, it seems like it's a terrible value. The first seating makes you miss most of the party, and I'd think the second would be too late to be enjoyable for most young kids. I also don't find the desserts to be all that attractive (rhubarb is the work of the devil, IMO). With no princes, and no way to meet some of the Villians without paying extra, it seems to me that the value of MNSSHP has decreased dramatically this year.

So glad we're going to MVMCP in December instead!

I'm one that adores the MNSSHP and will go twice next week. I also think the value of the MVMCP party is very poor and will never go again. So everyone's different.
 


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