Villains Land

[HokieRaven5]

If Encanto can have a capacity close to double that of Primeval Whirl which was around 900/hr that’s still an add for the park. Plus more people will actually go on an Encanto ride than those who were willing and able to go on Primeval Whirl. Carousel is a Triceratops Spin Replacement

Much like the 4 attractions, and dining between cars and villains land will likely be highly more utilized than TSI and the Riverboat.

Similar to how 4 attractions, dining, bars added in the 2010s to DHS added utilization with Galaxy’s Edge and Toy Story Land replacing Lights Motor Action and the Backlot Tour.

 

[OKW Lover]

Where are you putting all of these rides?

There is room in each park for expansion. Obviously they are already adding to the MK.

Epcot has always had room to add on in World Showcase. Plus they have existing unused or underutilized buildings in the park already. The old Wonders of Life building sits empty. Odyssey is used only during parts of the festivals. The entire Millennium building between Canada & UK, is almost never used.

DHS is being expanded in one direction already by taking part of the parking lot. In the other direction they are repurposing a hardly used building that formerly held animation.

At AK, in addition to the expansion being worked on there is plenty of room to either side of the park without impinging on the safari or animal pens.

It helps to look at an aerial view of the property to visualize these things.

 

[fatmanatee]

There is room in each park for expansion. Obviously they are already adding to the MK.

Epcot has always had room to add on in World Showcase. Plus they have existing unused or underutilized buildings in the park already. The old Wonders of Life building sits empty. Odyssey is used only during parts of the festivals. The entire Millennium building between Canada & UK, is almost never used.

DHS is being expanded in one direction already by taking part of the parking lot. In the other direction they are repurposing a hardly used building that formerly held animation.

At AK, in addition to the expansion being worked on there is plenty of room to either side of the park without impinging on the safari or animal pens.

It helps to look at an aerial view of the property to visualize these things.

Coincidentally I was doing just that. Was a tiny bit skeptical about the idea that you could expand all parks to match the number of attractions at MK.

 

[TDK44]

I'm not sure how much room there is for expansion within the current realistic boundaries of the parks, at least without getting rid of things (my preference).

At AK, maybe some expansion behind Asia but not sure what is developable versus what needs to remain wetlands, etc. -- plus the more filled-in wilderness nature of it is a positive, not something they should raze more areas to fill in with rides, IMO.

Hollywood Studios, they could expand more into parking lot areas today, like the Olaf lot, but interested to see how Monstropolis turns out first before building another new land. Hopefully it happens at some point though. In general, a lot of newer things in this park though.

Epcot has a lot of room for at least another country pavilion with a great ride -- a lot of space between Germany and China, in particular. I hope this is what is up next after the current wave of announced builds. Could also replace Mission Space, Figment, others.

At MK, like or or not but this park has the most potential for expansions or new attractions, because it has the most old, crappy things today. I think they need to stay on/accelerate the path of getting rid of more old rides and doing more full overhauls, nostalgia be damned.

• Once Thunder Mountain is back online I hope they do a full redo of Space Mountain too (or just replace it), and frankly just a full overhaul of Tomorrowland. Speedway takes up way too much space and has abysmal capacity and has got to go.
• In Fantasyland, Peter Pan is old and has terrible throughput and should be replaced. Once Villains Land is open, there's no way to justify keeping It's A Small World -- yes, it has high capacity but that will be eaten up by all of the new rides being opened and it just takes up way too much space that could be used as a critical expansion/connection to Villains Land from Fantasy Land (and could include another ride, or two) -- doesn't hurt my case that it's also completely insufferable. Winnie the Pooh and Mad Tea Party could free up more real estate as well.
• Then the question is does Adventureland get a nostalgia pass for Pirates and Jungle Cruise? I could see them both staying the longest, given popularity and decent capacity. Would rather see everything else in that Adventureland/Frontierland complex go. Why they spent the time updating Country Bear Jamboree instead of just replacing it is beyond me. Tiki Room, Carpets, Swiss Family Treehouse, it can all go. Edited to add, fully replace Liberty Square too.
• Storybook Circus is trash, but I guess you need some of this for the littlest kiddos. Maybe some new swaps could be worthwhile, but way down the priority list.

End rant. Lol.

 

[bryaalre]

I am all for adding over subtracting as well. However, I don't think only pursuing one avenue would be the right path. I think most of us have a lot of the same ideas about a few areas but I'll add in some controversial takes.

• Magic Kingdom
  • Revamp tomorrow land. Monstropolis gives them a reason to move Mikes laugh floor over there to free up another building. Close the speedway and I feel like the Imagineers would have enough blank spaces to truly get creative with the space.
  • Close Jungle Cruise and clear the space for a land. Controversial take and one that I would not like but with the way things are going, feels inevitable. The ride takes up a ton of land, has a less than optimal capacity and from Disney's perspective, costs are rising due to upkeep and needing too many cast members on staff.
• EPCOT
  • Add a country to the pavilion
  • Finish the Play pavilion
  • Finish what was started in Germany and Japan with the originally planned rides
• Hollywood Studios
  • Another controversial take but close Indiana Jones Spectacular. I wouldn't mind if they chose a different movie to model a stunt show after but with so many behind the scenes videos, it feels like something that has come and gone. Could certainly add an e-ticket ride there but the park is already to out of proportion with e-tickets. Maybe try and squeeze two lower tier attractions like a Peter Pan/Pooh ride throughs but with up to date IP like Inside Out or Tangled or go off the beaten path with Elemental or Soul.
  • I have no idea what to make of Animator Courtyard but I would have torn it all down prior to all the announced updates. I hope this refresh will liven up that area a bit but I am skeptical. Maybe they need more time in order to develop a plan to create more space in that area, who knows.
• Animal Kingdom
  • Would like to see something added to Pandora. Restaurant, small attraction or a new video for Flight of Passage.
  • The Lion King flume ride for Paris would be great here. I don't mind clones and if that means we can get this park nearer to 10 rides, I'll take it.
  • The water area where Kite Tails and other shows have flopped should be filled in like Tom Sawyers Island. I don't want it all filled in as the water around the tree is beautiful and the characters riding by are always fun but they can fill in a portion where the stage sits and come up with a few attractions or shows or even a whole land if they wanted too. I have zero confidence they know what to do with this area and it just sits barren.

 

[tink2424]

I would love for EPCOT to have a people mover type ride that goes around all the world showcase. That would be fun.

 

[BrianL]

I would love for EPCOT to have a people mover type ride that goes around all the world showcase. That would be fun.

Yeah, but with stops so you can hop on and off.