Videotaping Stage Shows

DarthVader92

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Is it possible to videotape the three stageshows on the magic. Some say it is prohibited, but how have videos actually appeared throughout numerous websites
 
Videos have appeared because people ignore the rules. Flash photography and videotaping is indeed, prohibited. If you really like the show, you can skip dinner and see them back to back. Have a great cruise!
 
Exactly...... People do it because they CHOOSE to break the rules..... They announce before each show that video captures and flash photography is prohibited..... Some people still feel "I am the exception to the rule, it does not apply to me and it is my vacation and I do what I want....." Those are the videos that you see... I love sitting near these people.... I walk by them casually taking my time and are sure to say loud enough to capture in audio "Too bad some people choose to break the rules and catch copyrighted material on film..... I wonder what that teaches children in life.":rolleyes1
 
Several years ago we went to see Red Skelton in concert
(if you don't know who that was, celebrate your youth and move on)
the standard announcement for 'no video or flash' was made and the show began.

Now those of you who DO remember Red know there was no more lovable entertainer who had nothing but GOOD in mind for every audience menber.

Remember back a few years .... video cameras always had a little red light on the front that told they were recording...

Red stopped COLD in the middle of his show .... "excuse me, you may not videotape this performance." He said it VERY nicely ..... and

He did not continue until security had escorted the camera person out of the theater.

I loved Red ..... he was right.
 

Exactly...... People do it because they CHOOSE to break the rules..... They announce before each show that video captures and flash photography is prohibited..... Some people still feel "I am the exception to the rule, it does not apply to me and it is my vacation and I do what I want....." Those are the videos that you see... I love sitting near these people.... I walk by them casually taking my time and are sure to say loud enough to capture in audio "Too bad some people choose to break the rules and catch copyrighted material on film..... I wonder what that teaches children in life.":rolleyes1

Unfortunately, snide comments like that have been ineffective for me. People who think rules don't apply to them include rules of common courtesy such as "shut the bleep up so the rest of us can hear the show!"
 
Also, some websites are given access and ability to record shows via media days...etc.
 
Several years ago we went to see Red Skelton in concert
(if you don't know who that was, celebrate your youth and move on)
the standard announcement for 'no video or flash' was made and the show began.

Now those of you who DO remember Red know there was no more lovable entertainer who had nothing but GOOD in mind for every audience menber.

Remember back a few years .... video cameras always had a little red light on the front that told they were recording...

Red stopped COLD in the middle of his show .... "excuse me, you may not videotape this performance." He said it VERY nicely ..... and

He did not continue until security had escorted the camera person out of the theater.

I loved Red ..... he was right.

I saw Red too in the 70s. And I saw his artwork of clowns in the 80s. What a guy!
 
Also, some websites are given access and ability to record shows via media days...etc.

That is true. Also, we have found some videos on youtube by CMs who were able to attend special screenings of the shows and they were taped.
 
I think I dislike people who walk slowly in front of others and speak during a show much more than the people who quietly videotape the production. One personally affects me (and those around me), the other doesn't. It could just be me, though.

full disclosure: last year, two of our kids were invited to participate in one of the shows (they were dwarves). I videotaped that segment and didn't feel at all guilty about it. Then again, it was simply for family footage and to share with our oldest who was on another trip and not to share with the public or try to sell.

Are people actually able to make money posting these videos? If not, why does Disney care? I'm not being snide, I honestly don't know why they should care. I understand that they make the rule and I agree that people should follow them (other than the part about my kids above :rolleyes1), but I can't imagine anyone loses money from people doing this. Would someone honestly say, "oh good, I saw the show on youtube. The quality was horrible and shaky and I couldn't hear anything very well, but now I don't have to pay thousands for the cruise"?

If anything, I'd think people would be amazed at the caliber of shows offered (compared to RCCL and other cruise lines) and be more inclined to shell out the bucks for a cruise knowing that everything is so first-class.
 
Also, some websites are given access and ability to record shows via media days...etc.

In the parks, they allow those of us in the media to videotape 30 seconds of performances with audio, and an additional 1 minute and 30 seconds silent. That's not a Disney rule, it's the Musicians and Performers Union rule. Not sure if the performers on board are union, and if the same rules apply. I literally had to unplug the microphone from my camera and hand it to the Disney PR lady when my 30 seconds was up in Disneyland.
 
I can only address flash photography. My son is a dancer and has some bad experiences with flash photography. He's a very athletic dancer and does some moves that "his Mom" really wishes her wouldn't. Sometimes the flash catches him off guard and he has lost his footing.

So I think some of it is for the safety of the performers and the comfort of the guests. I lights from the video screens are very bright in a darken theatre - I know I sat behind a man recording the show one night. I asked him very nicely to turn the light off - he just said 'no'. I moved. :sad2:

My understanding is that - most, if not all of the Musicians are union and Performers are Equity
 
What annoys me the most are the dozens of bright camera/video screens you can see around the dark theatre. It really spoils the show, particularly if one is next to you or on the row in front.
 
Would it be wrong to take one fast picture of the finale when all the characters are gathered together on stage. The show is finished and it wouldnt ruin it for anyone as they i assume are standing up clapping.
 
In the parks, they allow those of us in the media to videotape 30 seconds of performances with audio, and an additional 1 minute and 30 seconds silent. That's not a Disney rule, it's the Musicians and Performers Union rule. Not sure if the performers on board are union, and if the same rules apply. I literally had to unplug the microphone from my camera and hand it to the Disney PR lady when my 30 seconds was up in Disneyland.

It was explained to us at a behind the sceens talk with the performers that the reason they are based in Canada for training is to get around some of the union limitations regarding the work hours on the ship and probably the time they spend training to prepare for the ship. I don't know enough about the unions to know what the differences are, if any, outside of the US.
 
Would it be wrong to take one fast picture of the finale when all the characters are gathered together on stage. The show is finished and it wouldnt ruin it for anyone as they i assume are standing up clapping.

You can take pictures at the shows. You can't use flash. If you use flash, your pictures aren't going to turn out very well anyhow. I have used a Kodak easy share 10.1 I think it is and lower speeds before and gotten very good pictures of the shows and never used flash.

Also, in response to the person who said the taping isn't hurting DCL if people don't sell it...you can find sites and ebay auctions with DVDs of the shows for sale so yes, some people do sell them.
 
Correct--you can take still pictures all thru the shows without flash. It is only Flash and Video that is prohibited.
 
It was explained to us at a behind the sceens talk with the performers that the reason they are based in Canada for training is to get around some of the union limitations regarding the work hours on the ship and probably the time they spend training to prepare for the ship. I don't know enough about the unions to know what the differences are, if any, outside of the US.

We were allowed to take full video of Twice Charmed during a media day. We also used to be able to take full video of performances at Disneyland. It has been a while since we have done any PR stuff though. I think Twice Charmed was the last full video we shot.
 
Would it be wrong to take one fast picture of the finale when all the characters are gathered together on stage. The show is finished and it wouldnt ruin it for anyone as they i assume are standing up clapping.

Make sure you know how to use your camera without a flash (assuming you can adjust the manual controls to let in enough light), and you can take as many pictures as you want. When my kids were dwarves in the show, I got great pictures sans flash. If you use your flash, the pictures won't turn out in the theater anyway, because of all of the spot lighting. You'll likely end up with a lot of tiny flashes in your pictures.
 

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