VENT: Ted Kennedy!

[The Mystery Machine]

Because I feel cheated and lied too.

 

[MICKEY88]

Originally posted by VampHeartless
BTW...I'm a military intelligence professional in the US Army, which is half the reason I'm so angry. I see all of this go down from the inside, and can't do a friggin thing about it.

is this for real..??

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by DawnCt
Because they haven't been found yet doesn't mean that they don't or didn't exist. We have seen the results of the use of his WMD's, the mass graves, etc.

Yeah, and that would have been an excellent reason to invade..............in 1994.

There ARE NO WMD's.........Why is that so hard for you to comprehend ? The president screwed up, and isn't man enough to own up to it for fear of political ramifications. It's not all that complicated.

 

[DawnCt]

Originally posted by HANDYMOM

Get over it liberals, find another issue to pick the president apart on in order to get Kerry elected. Oh,.... that's right, there isn't a whole lot else you can complain about because president Bush is a strong leader who has surrounded himself with excellent advisers and cabinet members who know their stuff. Being a good president isn't just about your ideas, it's about "managing" the staff, the economy and the world. We don't need another idea man, we need someone to manage the big picture.

I completely agree Handymom. I didn't hear any liberals complain about the liberation of South Africa and providing a democratic state for them. Ten years later they are still experiencing violence and problems but ten years is a very short time in the life of a new government. I guess too many people have grown up the age of television where events occur in the space of a mini series.

 

[DawnCt]

Originally posted by MICKEY88
is this for real..??

I doubt it!

 

[VampHeartless]

Good stuff...

Anyways, are you referring to the mass graves, which once again, were verified by human rights groups as having been dated back to 1988?

I remember on SNL, one of the comedians saying he wouldn't vote for Bush because he graduated from Yale with better grades, and just wasn't going to vote a man in to lead the free world who was not smarter than he was.

Don't forget that both the Pope and Nelson Mandella came out against the war in Iraq. Hmm...world renowned peace activist and infallible key to God's Kingdom, or George W. Bush? Which side to choose...which side to choose...

 

[HANDYMOM]

Originally posted by The Mystery Machine
Because I feel cheated and lied too.

Poor thing...... living in the most free, cushy country the world has to offer and you have to suffer through feeling cheated and lied to..... You've got to get things in perspective. There are a lot of times that we shouldn't have a say in what goes on strategically in areas of homeland security, defense and dipolomacy. We aren't experts in these areas, we're too emotional.

No matter what, feeling cheated and lied to (LOL - get a hobby! Shut the t.v. news channel off already) is a lot better than feeling enslaved, beaten, raped or killed and dumped in a mass grave, wouldn't you say?

 

[DawnCt]

Originally posted by wvrevy
Yeah, and that would have been an excellent reason to invade..............in 1994.

There ARE NO WMD's.........Why is that so hard for you to comprehend ? The president screwed up, and isn't man enough to own up to it for fear of political ramifications. It's not all that complicated.

It seems to me that if they weren't there, Saddam wouldn't have thrown out the weapons inspectors. He had every opportunity to cooperate for 11 years. Were you equally as exercized when Clinton bombed Saddam in the late 90's?

 

[wvrevy]

Of course you doubt it...Anything that is negative towards the moron-in-chief is automatically discounted by his supporters.

Question: how many of his former staff is going to have to come forward and say that we screwed up before people actually hold him accountable ? How many people saying that the white house deliberately "spun" intel to make Iraq seem to be the bigger threat ? How many saying that Cheney and Rummey were hell-bent on going to Iraq IMMEDIATELY following 9-11, and evidence be damned ?

Does the truth even matter to voters anymore ?

 

[DawnCt]

Originally posted by HANDYMOM
No matter what, feeling cheated and lied to (LOL - get a hobby! Shut the t.v. news channel off already) is a lot better than feeling enslaved, beaten, raped or killed and dumped in a mass grave, wouldn't you say?

Way to go!!!

 

[VampHeartless]

Originally posted by MICKEY88
is this for real..??

Click on the website in my sig...

www.vampthompson.com

Yes, I'm in the army, have been for six years, and I'm tired of George Bush blaming hard working folk like myself for his failures.

 

[HANDYMOM]

Originally posted by VampHeartless
Good stuff...

Don't forget that both the Pope and Nelson Mandella came out against the war in Iraq. Hmm...world renowned peace activist and infallible key to God's Kingdom, or George W. Bush? Which side to choose...which side to choose...

What do you mean by Infallible key to God's Kingdom?

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by DawnCt
It seems to me that if they weren't there, Saddam wouldn't have thrown out the weapons inspectors. He had every opportunity to cooperate for 11 years. Were you equally as exercized when Clinton bombed Saddam in the late 90's?

1 - In an unstable region of the world with a serious enemy just across the border in Iran, can you think of ANY reason why he might not have wanted to admit to having very little in the way of defense ? Hmmm....Let's think hard about that, shall we ?

2 - Clinton bombed IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO SOMETHING....What was Shrub responding to ? And no, don't even THINK of saying 9/11, as no matter HOW many times they say the two in the same sentence, Iraq and 9/11 have NOTHING to do with one another.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

When my government may have lied to me about WMD I tend to take notice.
I supported Bush invading Iraq in the beginning. I still support the troops. That will never change.

I want to know why huge errors in information happened or were they out and out lies? Which is it?

If it was poor intelligence then perhaps the reason for invading "when" we did may have been in error.

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by HANDYMOM
I was for the truth, but that was before I was against it.

he he he he......

You mean, like Shrub was AGAINST nation building, but now he's for it ?

Oh, wait....only Republicans are allowed to change their minds, I forgot...lol

Nice try, though...I see you've been following the Faux News channel very closely to have picked up their talking points....Good job !

 

[DawnCt]

Originally posted by VampHeartless
Good stuff...

Don't forget that both the Pope and Nelson Mandella came out against the war in Iraq. Hmm...world renowned peace activist and infallible key to God's Kingdom, or George W. Bush? Which side to choose...which side to choose...

The Pope is human and therefore not infallable. What I think peace activists fail to understand is that peace often can only be achieved through force.

 

[HANDYMOM]

Originally posted by wvrevy
2 - Clinton bombed IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO SOMETHING....What was Shrub responding to ? And no, don't even THINK of saying 9/11, as no matter HOW many times they say the two in the same sentence, Iraq and 9/11 have NOTHING to do with one another.

Tell that the the families of all 9/11 victims that had to watch the video tapes of OBL. OBL funnelled money directly through Saddam to finance this deal. The news has reported (oh so casually of course) on all of the visits to Iraq as well as the personal relationship between OBL and Saddam.

Close your eyes to the 9/11 / Iraq link if you want to, but it's still be there when you open them up again.

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by DawnCt
The Pope is human and therefore not infallable. What I think peace activists fail to understand is that peace often can only be achieved through force.

"To save the village, we had to destroy it"

And who says there's no parallel's here to Vietnam...lol

 

[johare]

Originally posted by JoeThaNo1Stunna
What a jerk, what an idiot, words can't describe this man!

Those seem to be the right words to describe Bush. I'm not sure there has ever been someone as incompetent as him to occupy the white house. I'm not exactly a fan of Ted Kennedy, personally I don't care for the man, but right now the countries number one priorty should be getting G.W. out of office so we can begin recovering from the huge mess the idiot has created .

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by HANDYMOM
Tell that the the families of all 9/11 victims that had to watch the video tapes of OBL. OBL funnelled money directly through Saddam to finance this deal. The news has reported (oh so casually of course) on all of the visits to Iraq as well as the personal relationship between OBL and Saddam.

Close your eyes to the 9/11 / Iraq link if you want to, but it's still be there when you open them up again.

That is absolute bull...Pure fabrication on your part....There is not one SHRED of evidence linking the two...NOT ONE....Point to it...Prove me wrong...If there had been this kind of link established, it would have been all over the news...So c'mon, show me a reputable news source that says that.

Faux News reported on all the WMD's found when we first invaded, too...Didn't make it any more true than your statements above.