VENT: Ted Kennedy!

[goofy4tink]

Originally posted by Grog
Does anyone remember when, for about ten minutes on 9/11/01, we were all Americans, not Republicans or Democrats. All this partisan BS from both sides is making me sick. I'd love to see one day here on the DIS where the two sides don't bash each other. Just one freakin' day! Is that too much to ask?

 

[monkeyboy]

An oldie but goody about Ted and the Presidency


I don't care if he runs
Just don't let him drive

 

[Keli]

Originally posted by monkeyboy
An oldie but goody about Ted and the Presidency


I don't care if he runs
Just don't let him drive

LOL! I'd never heard that before.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

Well my problems with Ted Kennedy differ. He is against a bill that would allow current law enforcement officers and retired law enforcement officers to conceal carry in any state. Think about all the extra protection we would have if needed. I find it ridiculous that an officer is certified and can carry in his/her own state but not the whole country.

 

[Aristocath]

Joe, how do you know we won't be there for 12 more years? They are already asking for more troops to be sent over now. We don't have a real exit strategy. The hand over on June 30 does not call for us to leave by then.

 

[faithinkarma]

interesting......let's see how much hatred can be spewed out towards Kennedy in accusing him of spewing out hatred.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

Originally posted by Nancy
I don't know about anyone else, but I am not willing to sit back and wait for something else to happen here..then listen to all the crybabies say..."if we knew about this why didn't we stop it" like they are doing now. I could just see the uproar if we have tried to be pro-active and stopped OBL after his first attack on the Towers.

Kennedy has been a disgrace for years. Why he keeps etting voted in is beyond me.

Sorry but I don't see the connection - when he could have been using the resources and good will of the entire world to hunt down Bin Laden instead Mr. Bush chose to go into Iraq to search for non-existent WMD and I think, even the score for Saddam's dissing of his father. How did that make us safer? By angering millions of Muslins who felt the US had no place deciding what the people of Iraq needed? Funny, I certainly don't feel safer.

 

[MeanLaureen]

I am not claiming to be on one side or the other - I don't believe in playing democrat OR republican because I have beliefs that can ride with either party. So that keeps me from riding the coattails of one party exclusively. I can't put a blind eye on things I don't agree with just to be a "party person"

Anyhow - my point here that I would like to make is about the casulity stat you gave. About Vietnam having 50K+ soldiers dead.

Well, if we did not have the awesome weapons technologies that we do today that keep our soldiers safer - like the missiles that can be shot from miles away to zero in on a tiny target - you can believe that death toll (on BOTH sides) would be giving the Vietnam a run for it's money. It's not Bush keeping down the death toll - it's 40+ years of technology

 

[VampHeartless]

Look at the title...

Now that's good hate speech!

Anyways, I'm glad Ted Kennedy busted George Bush out. Hundreds of people are dying for no reason, Americans and Iraqis. We have lost more people in the second Gulf war than Saddam Hussein has slaughtered since 1988...just for statistics purpose. (Confirmed by several human rights reports)

I don't like the idea of attacking governments because "we think" they harbor terror. When I was in grade school, my Dad told me never to throw the first punch, because then you were the one being violent and the whole incident was all your fault. I totally understood the war in Afghanistan...but war is humanitie at it's worst, and needs to be saved only when we need to defend our own liberties...not because George Bush wants to finish daddies work and war is always a quick start for the economy, (although it destroys our economic stability, long term).

Doesn't anyone remember, being afraid to vote for George Bush because we all knew he was going to invade Iraq? And we thought that was just silliness back then....

 

[VampHeartless]

BTW...I'm a military intelligence professional in the US Army, which is half the reason I'm so angry. I see all of this go down from the inside, and can't do a friggin thing about it.

 

[caitycaity]

When I was in grade school, my Dad told me never to throw the first punch, because then you were the one being violent and the whole incident was all your fault. I totally understood the war in Afghanistan...but war is humanitie at it's worst, and needs to be saved only when we need to defend our own liberties...

 

[DawnCt]

Originally posted by VampHeartless
BTW...I'm a military intelligence professional in the US Army, which is half the reason I'm so angry. I see all of this go down from the inside, and can't do a friggin thing about it.

Then if that were the case, you should be clear that the war with Iraq is a resumption of hostilities because Saddam did not comply with the terms of the cease fire and he had continued to fire on our aircraft since the end of the first gulf war. I am not so sure you are seeing clearly "from the inside" what you think you are seeing.

 

[VampHeartless]

That is very true that Saddam continued to fire on our planes...but it was not the reason we invaded, and I think everyone is clear on that. Bush has touted WMD since day one...until the media picked up that their wasn't any.

Ohhhh...wait...that's just liberal media bias again...

 

[HANDYMOM]

Originally posted by GoofItUp
Yep, this one is headed for the debate board.....

But, I do agree with the OP for the most part. Putting the Bush/Kerry debate aside for a moment, if you just consider the things Senator Kennedy has said, he is full of hate speech and does not respect the views of others. He has said things that are completely inappropriate, yet no one questions him on it. Now that deserves a line of 's.

Having been born and raised in Massachusetts I've got something to add. Ted Kennedy has based his whole career on keeping the Massachusetts voters hating republicans and anything conservative America stands for. How else would someone accused (remember he was not convicted of anything) of something as serious as Chappaquidic be elected over and over again?

The man is rabid and disrespectful. I've always said that he belongs in the Senate because he is there doing what our founding fathers intended for him to do, represent the (nutty) liberal majority of Massachusetts. I do look forward to a day, though, when he is gone. I feel sure Massachusetts will become less rabid liberal and more moderate.

My opinion of T.K. hit rock bottom this January when he actively shook his head no and then seemed to almost fall asleep during the president's state of the union address. He is disrespectful and hostile. That's neither professional or productive (for the U.S.)

BTW - as the worlds #1 superpower we do have a moral obligation to help those oppressed who can't help themselves. Iraqis are almost completely free to live without fear and to build their own future. We need to remember the torture chambers, rape rooms and the vast (and disgusting) polarity between the dire conditions the Iraqi people lived in vs. the ridiculously lavish, pampered lifestyle of the Hussein family and regime.

Get over it liberals, find another issue to pick the president apart on in order to get Kerry elected. Oh,.... that's right, there isn't a whole lot else you can complain about because president Bush is a strong leader who has surrounded himself with excellent advisers and cabinet members who know their stuff. Being a good president isn't just about your ideas, it's about "managing" the staff, the economy and the world. We don't need another idea man, we need someone to manage the big picture.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

Lets see, we joked about the President being "stupid" when he was elected to office. It was funny that he wasn't so smart. SNL had a field day with that. Do you remember?

Ha-Ha! Now it isn't so funny is it?

Bush is the same man we elected and I believe if someone that was in office that was smarter would have found a way to get coalition support and clear supportive proof before rushing in to save the day!

There is no exit plan...come on what is it? We are already there. What is the exit plan???

 

[DawnCt]

Originally posted by VampHeartless
That is very true that Saddam continued to fire on our planes...but it was not the reason we invaded, and I think everyone is clear on that. Bush has touted WMD since day one...until the media picked up that their wasn't any.

Ohhhh...wait...that's just liberal media bias again...

Because they haven't been found yet doesn't mean that they don't or didn't exist. We have seen the results of the use of his WMD's, the mass graves, etc.

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by HANDYMOM
Get over it liberals, find another issue to pick the president apart on in order to get Kerry elected. Oh,.... that's right, there isn't a whole lot else you can complain about

Can I vote for this as the funniest post ever seen on the Community Board ?

Umm....I hate to tell you, but our economy is pretty lousy right now, and the "Justice" department has several hundred people locked up right now that have been denied any of their constitutionally guaranteed rights.

But that's ok, 'cause we got the rock 'em sock 'em moron in the white house to protect us from all them nasty evil doers...lol

Better watch out for all them nuc-u-lar weapons in North Korea...oh, wait...they don't have anything, do they Dubya ?

Yeah, you're right...we nasty liberals don't have a THING to complain about..... Here...have another drink of the kool-aid, and don't bother thinking for yourself, just parrot everything that comes from Condi and company and you'll be fine...

 

[DawnCt]

Originally posted by The Mystery Machine
Lets see, we joked about the President being "stupid" when he was elected to office. It was funny that he wasn't so smart. SNL had a field day with that. Do you remember?

Ha-Ha! Now it isn't so funny is it?

Bush is the same man we elected and I believe if someone that was in office that was smarter would have found a way to get coalition support and clear supportive proof before rushing in to save the day!

There is no exit plan...come on what is it? We are already there. What is the exit plan???

It seems that the only support we didn't get was from France, Germany, Russia and China. Now why do you suppose they weren't interested in joining the cause even though the UN, President Clinton, et al, believed that Saddam had WMDs? Could it be that they were doing millions and millions of dollars of business with Saddam, selling him contraban materials and corrupting the oil for food program? Nah, it couldn't be that, could it? With regard to an "exit plan"? Do you think we should publish it on the front page of the New York Times? How about setting a date? Nah, I don't think so.

 

[DawnCt]

Originally posted by The Mystery Machine
Lets see, we joked about the President being "stupid" when he was elected to office. It was funny that he wasn't so smart. SNL had a field day with that. Do you remember?

Ha-Ha! Now it isn't so funny is it?

Bush is the same man we elected and I believe if someone that was in office that was smarter would have found a way to get coalition support and clear supportive proof before rushing in to save the day!

There is no exit plan...come on what is it? We are already there. What is the exit plan???

It seems that the only support we didn't get was from France, Germany, Russia and China. Now why do you suppose they weren't interested in joining the cause even though the UN, President Clinton, et al, believed that Saddam had WMDs? Could it be that they were doing millions and millions of dollars of business with Saddam, selling him contraban materials and corrupting the oil for food program? Nah, it couldn't be that, could it? With regard to an "exit plan"? Do you think we should publish it on the front page of the New York Times? How about setting a date? Nah, I don't think so.

 

[HANDYMOM]

Originally posted by The Mystery Machine
Lets see, we joked about the President being "stupid" when he was elected to office. It was funny that he wasn't so smart. SNL had a field day with that. Do you remember?

Ha-Ha! Now it isn't so funny is it?

Bush is the same man we elected and I believe if someone that was in office that was smarter would have found a way to get coalition support and clear supportive proof before rushing in to save the day!

There is no exit plan...come on what is it? We are already there. What is the exit plan???

Why are you concerned about an exit plan, things aren't even settled there yet and as DawnCT said there is a lot we just haven't found yet.

I just love how armchair politicians throw around words like stupid referring to any person who gets elected President. That's not easy you know.... Also in that same train of thought, just because someone talks slow, with and accent, or has trouble speaking from a teleprompter doesn't make him stupid. It makes those that read into those things and make a diagnosis of "stupid" the ignorant ones.

BTW - DawnCT, I love your attitude, I look forward to your posts. You are certainly a voice in the Northern darkness.