VDH Opening

[Sunnyore]

I really wonder how DVC and VDH in particular is going to do with the current environment. This certainly isn't 2008 implosion and housing crisis with VGC opening in 2009 right in the middle of it all.

But it is inflation threatening; real estate stagnant; and 15th largest west coast bank failing and Fed probably more cautious on interest rate raising to not spook bank runs further.

Will Disney open VDH with higher and how will incentives look like so jazz sales and not be PR nightmare of introducing more incentives a month later if weak sales on DVC and VDH itself? Hard choices.

If I were Disney; wait another few weeks (DON"T DO THAT!) and see cash price bookings before VDH sales announcement. --- I truly hope that they don't do this!

A guide told me they were supposed to encourage cash booking for VDH at the moment. So I interpret that we won’t get point chart or be able to buy points for a while longer.

 

[DianaMB333]

What time can we start calling? 9am ET?
Tks

 

[CarolynFH]

What time can we start calling? 9am ET?
Tks

If we don't get any additional notice from DVC, that's when I'd call.

But I'm waiting for those points charts - want to start thinking about switching my January visit from BWV to VDH!

 

[AstroBlasters]

Another good option…

 

[nlenguyen]

A guide told me they were supposed to encourage cash booking for VDH at the moment. So I interpret that we won’t get point chart or be able to buy points for a while longer.

It would make since. I am worried that they see they could make more money.

 

[nlenguyen]

What time can we start calling? 9am ET?
Tks

My plan for tomorrow morning is to see if it would be cheaper than if we were going to rent points for our stay at VGC. If it makes since to do it, I will book the room cash. If the rooms are way over the price of a regular hotel room at DLH then I don't think it will be worth it.

 

[Canchaser143]

Another good option…

Lived in San Diego for a bit, Great Maple is SO GOOD!

 

[CarolynFH]

It would make since. I am worried that they see they could make more money.

As long as DVD owns the entire building, they are "on the hook" for all operating expenses and maintenance, not to mention the cost of construction. As soon as they begin selling it, the buyers start paying for construction with the the purchase price and the owners start paying for operations and maintenance with their member fees. I don't think they'll delay longer than they have to. Yes, Aulani fills the unsold villas with cash guests, but I doubt that was DVD's intention.

 

[DisVDS]

As long as DVD owns the entire building, they are "on the hook" for all operating expenses and maintenance, not to mention the cost of construction. As soon as they begin selling it, the buyers start paying for construction with the the purchase price and the owners start paying for operations and maintenance with their member fees. I don't think they'll delay longer than they have to. Yes, Aulani fills the unsold villas with cash guests, but I doubt that was DVD's intention.

With inflation on cash rate bookings though, I imagine Disney is in no rush. DLR appears to be really full these days as people are doing make-up travel from the pandemic. Agree DVD is a better long term play since they dont have to worry about the up & downs of the economy once its fully sold. But until occupancy dips, I would imagine they wouldn't try that hard to sell (no incentives, limited marketing, etc).

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

With inflation on cash rate bookings though, I imagine Disney is in no rush. DLR appears to be really full these days as people are doing make-up travel from the pandemic. Agree DVD is a better long term play since they dont have to worry about the up & downs of the economy once its fully sold. But until occupancy dips, I would imagine they wouldn't try that hard to sell (no incentives, limited marketing, etc).

Agree to all of this. Plus, DLR's Disney100 decorations/special shows are probably adding to the crowds there.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

To steer it back to the original topic of this thread. I can't wait for what rack rate will look like tomorrow morning!! Who's going to book?

 

[sleepymouse]

To steer it back to the original topic of this thread. I can't wait for what rack rate will look like tomorrow morning!! Who's going to book?

I wonder how far out you can book. I am interested but looking at February 2024 dates if so.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I wonder how far out you can book. I am interested but looking at February 2024 dates if so.

Gawd. I hope we can start using points for dates that far out!

 

[sleepymouse]

Gawd. I hope we can start using points for dates that far out!

I hope so too, but as long as one can cancel within “x” number of days, it wouldn’t hurt to make a reservation.

 

[DianaMB333]

I have a booking at DLH for the running events in Jan/24.. if the cash rate is comparable then I’ll jump to try the new rooms… while crossing fingers for the possibility of booking it points later..

Also I’m still deciding whether to go or not on Oct 16th for the 100th anniversary date, which might not be special because the anniversary lasts several months… but they might surprise us with something on the exact date.. so, if cancellation policy allows, I’ll book a place holder too

 

[Chili327]

Oct 16th for the 100th anniversary date

Is this the date of incorporation or what exactly happened on this day?

 

[DonMacGregor]

Is this the date of incorporation or what exactly happened on this day?

Yes, start of the Disney Brothers Cartoon Studio, which later became The Walt Disney Company.

When it comes to important dates in the history of The Walt Disney Company, perhaps none is more important than this day, because October 16, 1923 is the official start of The Walt Disney Company. For this auspicious occasion, here’s a D23 trivia question: Who was Disney’s first recurring animated character that had a name? (The answer’s below.) By May of 1923, film distributor Margaret Winkler became concerned with conflicts she was having with Pat Sullivan, owner of her top property, Felix the Cat. Afraid she might lose Felix, which was the cat’s meow for her company, she was open to new properties when a young man named Walt Disney hoped that she would take interest in his unfinished short film, Alice’s Wonderland, a pilot for a series of short Alice Comedies. Timing couldn’t have been better; a contract was signed in which she agreed to distribute Alice, and 56 short Alice films were produced, inking in the date of October 16th as the company’s official start. Being a female in a male-dominated industry, Margaret Winkler opted to hide her female identity on the films which simply read that the distributor was “M.J. Winkler.” The “J” was not an initial of her middle name, she just thought it sounded nice. Now, do you have an answer to the trivia question? Disney’s first named animated character that appeared in numerous Alice cartoons was a cat named Julius.

Official Start of The Walt Disney Company

 

[ehh]

To steer it back to the original topic of this thread. I can't wait for what rack rate will look like tomorrow morning!! Who's going to book?

I'll be waiting until Friday to see the rack rates online. Not interested enough to deal with calling or potential hold times.

I'm definitely curious but am very unlikely to book. I can't unborrow points for existing VGC bookings so I have no flexibility to convert existing trips and not much desire to add new trips through the end of 2023. I don't expect 2024 bookings (2024 isn't posted yet at WDW or DL), but would be happy to be surprised.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

I have a booking at DLH for the running events in Jan/24.. if the cash rate is comparable then I’ll jump to try the new rooms… while crossing fingers for the possibility of booking it points later..

Also I’m still deciding whether to go or not on Oct 16th for the 100th anniversary date, which might not be special because the anniversary lasts several months… but they might surprise us with something on the exact date.. so, if cancellation policy allows, I’ll book a place holder too

Isn't D23 doing something on that day? I thought I saw something, maybe at the studio, but can't find it now

ETA: I guess I dreamed it, I can't find anything about that. Maybe it was wishful thinking lol

 

[Sunnyore]

My plan for tomorrow morning is to see if it would be cheaper than if we were going to rent points for our stay at VGC. If it makes since to do it, I will book the room cash. If the rooms are way over the price of a regular hotel room at DLH then I don't think it will be worth it.

I’m sure someone else will share it out to the world but if you don’t mind posting what rates you were quoted here I’d really appreciate it. I was considering a cash booking but not for the prices I am seeing for the DLH rooms for October. I imagine it to be similar so I went ahead and waitlisted at VGC with points.