VDH Opening

[eticketplease]

Shhh...I'm looking into VGC and I don't want people sneaking in and getting all the good contracts before me.

Better location imho but I do like the look of the new rooms

 

[sleepymouse]

I’m going with studio range 15-30 points per night.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I’m going with studio range 15-30 points per night.

which studios? Duo or deluxe?

 

[nalabear]

I'm going with starting at 1-2 points below VGC for standard (hello Anaheim!) view, with maybe 3 view classifications spiking upwards of 10 points above VGC.

The only ones spiking above VGC would be those poolside units. Otherwise VGC beats any potential 'parkview' benefit by location and level hotel.

 

[ehh]

My guess for Deluxe Studios: 14 - 41pts/night across all views. I like it because it's a palindrome.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

I expect the point charts will be commensurate with cash rates at about the same ratio of points to cash rates @ VGC

 

[HIRyeDVC]

We keep going in circles about points chart speculations but my guess is higher than VGC because it’s 14 years newer than VGC. I’m seeing Riviera/BCV comparison. But who really knows

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

We keep going in circles about points chart speculations but my guess is higher than VGC because it’s 14 years newer than VGC. I’m seeing Riviera/BCV comparison. But who really knows

That would be unusual. GC is the higher priced location and point charts have tended to take that into account since DVC implemented point creep with BLT. At worst I'd expect it to be the same but would suspect it will be slightly less. Off the top of my head I believe the quantity of pods and studios already mean if identical it will be more point heavy per square foot than VGC which has a higher percentage of 2BR's. Plus the selling price is going to be somewhere in the double range compared to VGC.

 

[UrsulaWantsYourSoul]

We keep going in circles about points chart speculations but my guess is higher than VGC because it’s 14 years newer than VGC. I’m seeing Riviera/BCV comparison. But who really knows

Copper Creek opened only 2.5 years before Riviera and their point chart is so much kinder by comparison. tee hee. And of course Riviera was being touted as the Grand of the Epcot area. So who knows.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Copper Creek opened only 2.5 years before Riviera and their point chart is so much kinder by comparison. tee hee. And of course Riviera was being touted as the Grand of the Epcot area. So who knows.

Yet Riviera is less grand than the Grand (in point requirements).

 

[HIRyeDVC]

That would be unusual. GC is the higher priced location and point charts have tended to take that into account since DVC implemented point creep with BLT. At worst I'd expect it to be the same but would suspect it will be slightly less. Off the top of my head I believe the quantity of pods and studios already mean if identical it will be more point heavy per square foot than VGC which has a higher percentage of 2BR's. Plus the selling price is going to be somewhere in the double range compared to VGC.

All I know is, I’m so tired of speculating.

Copper Creek opened only 2.5 years before Riviera and their point chart is so much kinder by comparison. tee hee. And of course Riviera was being touted as the Grand of the Epcot area. So who knows.

CCV was able to match BRV because of the cabins. Those cabins sucked up so much of the points chart.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

Yet Riviera is less grand than the Grand (in point requirements).

And of course Riviera was being touted as the Grand of the Epcot area. So who knows.

But this is California. It’s more expensive out west

 

[BrianLo]

I'm betting Duo Studios are about 4 points less on average than a Standard View Studio, which is 3 points less than a preferred Studio.

It all comes down to where they price that "Preferred" Studio relative to VGC. Realistically it's the same, if they are very generous it's a point less and I think that would make people very pleased with the points chart.


Unless we get Value-views (4 points under VGC), Pool views (1 point under VGC) and Preferred views (2 above VGC).

That said if they go for broke on the points chart and overshoot it does come a bit out in the wash as maintenance fees will then likely wind up being lowest in the entire portfolio long term. Ironically will VDH be the 'very best' sleep around points?

 

[CmdrThor]

The only ones spiking above VGC would be those poolside units. Otherwise VGC beats any potential 'parkview' benefit by location and level hotel.

Just because VGC is ‘better’ doesn’t mean the points at DLH won’t be much higher. Look at the OKW 3BR. It is WAY cheaper than any other DVC 3BR. Only because it was the first, not because it is inferior. The DLH tower likely cost much more to build than VGC, therefore the point chart will reflect that.

 

[ClaraOswald]

I also wouldn't be surprised if VDH is (slightly) more expensive than VGC. It may not have the prime location but it will be newer and there's the possibility of the parks (some day) expanding into the area right by the hotel.

 

[CmdrThor]

I’m going with studio range 15-30 points per night.

Zero percent chance 30 is the most expensive studio.

 

[soniam]

Anyone actually follow through with what the email said and called in to talk to a guide today? I’m itching for more info but tired of being told “we don’t know anything yet, but soon.” I am at DCA at the moment.. maybe with enough cocktails from Lamplight I won’t care about bothering the guides.

You can always try

The funny (sad?) thing is those standard rooms will be gobbled up immediately when you could have a theme park view at VGC for a few points more if you bought there instead.

That's assuming you can get points at VGC. I thought direct and resale were both kind of hard to come by. If you can get them, then you have to work hard and be lucky to get a studio, even at 11 months.

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

I’ll bet it averages 1 point below VGC for a studio and 1 BR and 2 below for a 2BR.

 

[elenex]

You can always try



That's assuming you can get points at VGC. I thought direct and resale were both kind of hard to come by. If you can get them, then you have to work hard and be lucky to get a studio, even at 11 months.

I'm a VGC owner and once you are an owner, it's really not very hard to get any type of room at 11 months with some rare exceptions. Direct sales don't happen and resale contacts are more rare and expensive than other properties, but if you look around it's not that much more to buy VGC right now than the direct VDH buy in is shaping up to be.

 

[Chili327]

I’m going with studio range 15-30 points per night.

which studios? Duo or deluxe?

Ill throw it out there…
Duo: 12-39 (low - high season)
Deluxe: 17-49 (low - high season)