VDH Opening

[soniam]

I'm a VGC owner and once you are an owner, it's really not very hard to get any type of room at 11 months with some rare exceptions. Direct sales don't happen and resale contacts are more rare and expensive than other properties, but if you look around it's not that much more to buy VGC right now than the direct VDH buy in is shaping up to be.

It seems like I am constantly hearing people complain about trying to get stuff at 11 months at VGC. Maybe people just like to complain. I hear people complain at BWV too, and so far, I haven't had any issues, even with going during Thanksgiving, xmas, and Spring Break.

 

[Royal Consort]

That's assuming you can get points at VGC. I thought direct and resale were both kind of hard to come by. If you can get them, then you have to work hard and be lucky to get a studio, even at 11 months.

Way off the mark here. VGC is much easier than many of the WDW resorts for owners. Rooms disappear just before seven months but there isn't often a real urgency outside of typical holiday periods. I have MANY more issues getting my studio at VGF and Riviera.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

But this is California. It’s more expensive out west

The point is that they have not just increased points with each new resort.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Can you imagine the point chart if RIV or VGF had a direct park entrance! I’ll pay the extra points and you can keep your Skyliner.

 

[Sunnyore]

You can always try



That's assuming you can get points at VGC. I thought direct and resale were both kind of hard to come by. If you can get them, then you have to work hard and be lucky to get a studio, even at 11 months.

I did. There’s no new info to no one’s surprise.

 

[sleepymouse]

which studios? Duo or deluxe?

Deluxe

 

[HIRyeDVC]

The point is that they have not just increased points with each new resort.

Point taken. This will be CA’s 2nd resort so we’ll all find out!

 

[sleepymouse]

Ill throw it out there…
Duo: 12-39 (low - high season)
Deluxe: 17-49 (low - high season)

49 ?!? The most expensive studio price at VGC is 37. If the point chart was as you predict, and I wanted to buy at Disneyland, I would 100% buy VGC.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I sometimes wonder what all we’ll talk about once all the info is out. Poly2 I suppose. It never ends!

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

I also wouldn't be surprised if VDH is (slightly) more expensive than VGC. It may not have the prime location but it will be newer and there's the possibility of the parks (some day) expanding into the area right by the hotel.

Before Riviera's point charts came out, lots of the same debate were happening around here. Many argued that as the "grand of Epcot" while being newer, the point chart would be higher than VGF. Nope. A few others said it would be lower since CCV didn't get high point charts. It was somewhere in between BLT and VGF.

Yes, there's point creep, but that's not the only factor. Broadly, they tend make the charts commensurate to cash rates/desirable location. I see VDH:VGC as similar to RVA:VGF. Therefore, I really think the chart won't be low, but not as high as VGC. And yeah, yeah, we'll know soon enough...

 

[zavandor]

How many booking categories do you think there will be?
Standard and pool are a given.
Will they have a different category for studios with balconies?
The garden units?
Patio with easy pool access?

I think points for standard view will be lower than VGC, but garden and patio will be higher, they'll justify the higher price with the specialty of the booking category (which VGC doesn't have) even if the hotel side is usually less expensive.

 

[Chili327]

49 ?!? The most expensive studio price at VGC is 37. If the point chart was as you predict, and I wanted to buy at Disneyland, I would 100% buy VGC.

Yea, i was trying to go to the extremes on both ends, but i may have over shot it. lol (even for xmas eve)

 

[NVDISFamily]

Can you imagine the point chart if RIV or VGF had a direct park entrance! I’ll pay the extra points and you can keep your Skyliner.

Hey! Be nice amigo. There are some of us crazy people who love both

My family loves the Skyliner. It’s a fun ride to do on resort days.

 

[NVDISFamily]

I sometimes wonder what all we’ll talk about once all the info is out. Poly2 I suppose. It never ends!

VGC remodel theory for 1000 Alex?

 

[nalabear]

Yeah not understanding the increase point because of newer place stance. So a new hyatt place should be a category 7 like an old Park Place that's 50 years old because it's newer and cost more to build?

That's why the buy-in price is raised over time and the cost of a point to maintain is increased for cost inflation.

Point chart is the value of the place itself compared to rest of the collection the point chart represents.

VDH simply should not higher than VGC with current day DLR and even near future 10 years DLR.

 

[nlenguyen]

I don't know what the price charts will be. I look at Riveria where the point charts are often quite different between standard and preferred, especially when it comes to 1-2 bedrooms. I own at SSR so I don't think the difference between the two is that different. I could see the standards be realistically below VGC but the premium rooms above.
It is a difficult position especially with a studio because if a room is 30 points a night it is equal to say $700-800 which could be way above the normal rack rate for their hotel rooms which also can sleep 5. In that case, I could see people just wanting to stay hotel side where you can get two real queens

 

[pianomanzano]

Can you imagine the point chart if RIV or VGF had a direct park entrance! I’ll pay the extra points and you can keep your Skyliner.

I would love a second back entrance to world showcase via an overpass/tunnel crossing buena vista drive from the entrance of Riviera.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I would love a second back entrance to world showcase via an overpass/tunnel crossing buena vista drive from the entrance of Riviera.

I always thought this too and would be a game changer. Looking at google maps, it seems feasible.

 

[Littlelulu01]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see some loss leader room categories. Like akv value and club level. Or to a lesser degree Rivera standards and tower studios.

Gcv has just the one category and 4 seasons. Vs 7 seasons at wdw. I’m guessing Disneyland Hotel villas will have various categories and the standard category for dlv will be a marked savings compared to gcv but the preferred views and locations will be just a hair under gcv. The standard category will likely be highly competitive at 11 months so home resort advantage will be necessary to get the low cost rooms. They’re still actively selling Aulani so the higher cost preferred location rooms will be available at 7 months as an incentive for direct aulani purchases.

 

[The_MT]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see some loss leader room categories. Like akv value and club level. Or to a lesser degree Rivera standards and tower studios.

Gcv has just the one category and 4 seasons. Vs 7 seasons at wdw. I’m guessing Disneyland Hotel villas will have various categories and the standard category for dlv will be a marked savings compared to gcv but the preferred views and locations will be just a hair under gcv. The standard category will likely be highly competitive at 11 months so home resort advantage will be necessary to get the low cost rooms. They’re still actively selling Aulani so the higher cost preferred location rooms will be available at 7 months as an incentive for direct aulani purchases.

This is my theory as well. Having one or two categories that require low amounts of points can be used as a selling point to buyers, even if they will be unattainable for most owners.