vbs daycare problem no more solved..

[ehstrojette]

Ok here is the scoop. I watch 4 daycarekids. 2 sets of siblings

my oldest are 5 and 10
the next set are 2 and 5

well we have had VBS set up for over a month, have asked both sets of parents about going and even told them I would be teaching the 4 and 5 yr old class so I would have 2 out of 4 kids with me plus my own son in my class.

well for the past 2 weeks I have reminding them about it and everything has been fine.....

Today I was talking to my set#2 parents about wether the 2 yr old was going or if they were gonna find someone to watch him so their older duaghter who is 12 could go.. he tells me that he doesnt want me to commute with them and wants me to stay home to watch them

I told him I had to go and that they have known about it for about 6 weeks and said it was fine before I told the people at church I could teach the class. Bear in mind I take the older 2 kids to church on some sunday nights and occasionally meet their mom at her work place if I need to be somewhere or she needs to do something after work.

I also told them that if he decided to get someone to watch them next week he would still have to pay me my fee.. Am I being out of line for telling them that??

 

[happygirl]

Why would he have to pay you if you aren't going to be there to watch them?? You are teaching 4 and 5 years there kids are two and 12. So they wouldnt even been in your class.

If they weren't going to be there then yes I think they should pay you.

 

[N&B'smom]

Nope, if they knew about it and agreed to it, the problem lies with them. You checked with them before making the commitment so now they will have to find a solution.

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

I don't think you are out of line at all. You have given them more than enough warning and a chance to say something. It's not your fault that they suddenly decided to throw a hissy fit. If they don't like it, tough nuggets. They had their chance to say something. They agreed to it- they need to abide by it.

 

[ehstrojette]

If they go on a vacation or I take one they dont have to pay me but I require 2 weeks notice on vacations and I let them know 6 months in advance about my vacations

 

[ehstrojette]

sad thing is that they have become real good friends with us. I helped her move her stuff into their new house while he husband was on the road driving the truck for a week, I watch their kids so they can go out to dinner and stuff too. I just don;t want them to up and leave cause i would lose out on money that we need right now. I already give them a big discount since we have become friends and no other daycare will be as cheap as I am and plus most go on field trips or play outside for a good portion of the day.. she doesnt even want me to have them outside if it is hot out

 

[happygirl]

I'm still trying to figure out why you want to get paid when you can't watch the kids.

 

[Stacerita]

I'm still trying to figure out why you want to get paid when you can't watch the kids.

Most daycares are paid for the "slots" and not the actual days. When my DD was in day care I paid for days that I didn't take her. I wanted her to have a slot for when she did go. Its a job getting a salary. Just because its slow or a client is a no show doesn't mean you don't get your salary for the week.

 

[happygirl]

Most daycares are paid for the "slots" and not the actual days. When my DD was in day care I paid for days that I didn't take her. I wanted her to have a slot for when she did go. Its a job getting a salary. Just because its slow or a client is a no show doesn't mean you don't get your salary for the week.

I totally understand, but she the one not going to be able to watch them. She has other plans which is fine.

 

[ehstrojette]

plans that included their kids in it and it was something that was set uo for about 6 weeks.

I do get paid by the week so even if the kids come for 2 or all 5 days they pay the same amount. If they have told me 2 weeks ago they were gonna find someone else to watch them then I would have counted it as their vacation week which would have given me time to put money aside so I wasnt gonna lose a whole weeks pay all at once then it would have been fine.

how would you like it if your boss told you in friday that I am not paying you next week.. would you have time to prepare..no

 

[Miss Kelly]

I totally understand, but she the one not going to be able to watch them. She has other plans which is fine.

But she offered to take/watch them at church. She made a responsible effort to make other arrangements for their care.

Yes, they still owe you the money whether or not they go with you to the class. If you lose them, then you will find someone else who will respect your business and your prices.

 

[ehstrojette]

Most daycares are paid for the "slots" and not the actual days. When my DD was in day care I paid for days that I didn't take her. I wanted her to have a slot for when she did go. Its a job getting a salary. Just because its slow or a client is a no show doesn't mean you don't get your salary for the week.

exactly.. they pay for the spot. I had a mom out for 1 1/2month on maternity leave and she paid me 50% to hold her spot and after 3 weeks brought the kids just so she could have quiet time with the baby. I dont get paid by the day but by the week.

 

[ehstrojette]

But she offered to take/watch them at church. She made a responsible effort to make other arrangements for their care.

Yes, they still owe you the money whether or not they go with you to the class. If you lose them, then you will find someone else who will respect your business and your prices.

Thanks Miss Kelly

 

[robinb]

OK ... I had to google to find out what VBS meant (Vacation Bible School, for those like me). Let's see if I got this right. So, you planned to teach 4 & 5 year olds at your church's vacation bible school. I assume that this is (1) for a full week and (2) all day. You can teach one child from family #1 and one child from family #2 and your own child. Mom #2 now wants you to stay home with her youngest. I'm confused about what would happen to the 10 and 2 year old. Would you be able to then to the Bible School with you? Is there is class for them or would you keep him with you? Sorry ... I don't know how this thing works.

 

[happygirl]

OK ... I had to google to find out what VBS meant (Vacation Bible School, for those like me). Let's see if I got this right. So, you planned to teach 4 & 5 year olds at your church's vacation bible school. I assume that this is (1) for a full week and (2) all day. You can teach one child from family #1 and one child from family #2 and your own child. Mom #2 now wants you to stay home with her youngest. I'm confused about what would happen to the 10 and 2 year old. Would you be able to then to the Bible School with you? Is there is class for them or would you keep him with you? Sorry ... I don't know how this thing works.

I really don;t know OP VBS runs but ours. Has a nursery for those 2 and under and there would be a class for the 12 seperate from teh 4 and 5 year olds

 

[disykat]

They knew about VBS. You are providing the transportation to and from this event. It's really no different than a "field trip" any daycare might take. However, it has the family style "just like they might have done if it were mom or grandma" feeling. I would think that would be very desireable in a daycare. They have had plenty of time to tell you they did not wish to participate in this (they even okayed it originally) and they chose not to do so. At this late date I think you need to stick to your guns.

If you do decide to give up VBS and stay home because of this family, I think it's time to set up new rules. They are no longer interested in a family style, flexible arrangement with a discount for them and perks for both of you. They want something more businesslike apparently.

 

[chloelovesdisney]

I don't understand, why if you have a job watching kids in your home, you would take on a job for an entire week somewhere else. They won't be getting the same time and attention as usual if you have a class of kids to teach. How can you watch over a two year old while teaching?

 

[ehstrojette]

it is only 3 hrs and it was something we thought would be fun for all the kids. the toddler room is right next to my room so I would ony be 1 window away from the 2 yr old. The 10 yr old and their 12 yr old goes to church with me on sunday night as do the 5 yr old from the #2 parents. We would eat B-fast here then go to VBS then come home for lunch

the original plans were for me to bring their oldest with me to VBS and pick up the 2 yr old at their grandparents(they cant watch them all day or want to watch more than 1 of the younger ones at a given time)and leave the older one since she is goes with grandpa to work

vbs is from 9-12

 

[Tink888]

JMHO (and my kids haven't been in daycare so I don't know how all of it works) but if you were a licensed daycare provider and you were choosing to teach VBS during the time I'm normally paying you to watch my kids and I didn't want my kids participating in it then I don't think that I should be responsible to pay you for that time.

I would also have a problem with one of my kids being watched by strangers in a nursery while you're teaching VBS (if I read correctly, sorry if I read wrong). If I have a contract with you to watch my kids, then you're the one who should be watching them.

I do think they should have said something to you sooner but I don't think they should be required to pay you if their kids won't be there.

 

[chloelovesdisney]

Only 3 hours doesn't seem so bad. Maybe try talking to the mom?