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I keep reading great things about Butchart Gardens in Victoria. We are staying at the Fairmont Pacific Rim for four nights before the cruise. Would it be worth the long day trip to Victoria?

Has anyone done it?

Any recommendations on the best way?

Thanks!
 
I keep reading great things about Butchart Gardens in Victoria. We are staying at the Fairmont Pacific Rim for four nights before the cruise. Would it be worth the long day trip to Victoria?

Has anyone done it?

Any recommendations on the best way?

Thanks!

We are staying in Victoria for a few days after the cruise. Any idea how to get to Buchart Gardens from downtown Vctoria? I know there are bus trips, but not sure who to contact.
 
As an fyi, if you are staying in Vancouver for a bit and are planning on hitting the aquarium, they have additional 'behind the scenes' experiences, which are an additional charge. We did the sea otter encounter. Short presentation in a hilariously cramped little education room, a tour through back of house (including food prep and all the toys), and then we got to go into the otter enclosure and feed the otters (aaaand then we got to experience their slop sinks, washing raw fish off). It certainly was in line, price wise, with some of the 1.5-2 hour port adventure tour type experiences, but was totally fun and completely worth it. They have animal encounters with other species as well- some do get pricey (dolphin encounter!), and they do sell out fast in summer season. Call asap if you are interested.
 
We are staying in Victoria for a few days after the cruise. Any idea how to get to Buchart Gardens from downtown Vctoria? I know there are bus trips, but not sure who to contact.

You could take a taxi. Would probably cost about $30 each way. There are bus tours that go out there from in front of the Empress. You could take a public bus or rent a car. There is a hop on/hop off bus that is operating around town now, but I'm not sure if it goes all the way out to Butchart's.

It's about a 30 minute drive from town. Make sure you see it both during the day and in the early evening when they turn the lights on. It's beautiful. There is also nightly entertainment - if you go on a Saturday there is a fireworks show set to music. Go to the Butchart Gardens website - the summer entertainment schedule will be listed there.
 

I keep reading great things about Butchart Gardens in Victoria. We are staying at the Fairmont Pacific Rim for four nights before the cruise. Would it be worth the long day trip to Victoria?

Has anyone done it?

Any recommendations on the best way?

Thanks!

Butchart Gardens is really incredible, and you won't be sorry if you take the long day trip; however, there are some lovely gardens in the Vancouver area, too, and if you feel pressed for time, you might take them in instead.

My favorite is the International Buddhist Temple Gardens, but I also like the Van Dusen Botanical Gardens, and the Dr. Sun Yat Sen Classical Chinese Garden

As to the best way to do it, I suppose it would depend upon which airport you fly into. If you fly into Seattle, my suggestion would be to take a taxi from the airport to the Victoria Clipper (making sure you arrive in time to catch the boat, of course), go to Victoria, spend the night (if you have time, catch the nighttime fireworks at Butchart Gardens), and then try this tour, and cut one night off your Vancouver stay.

You could also rent a car in Victoria, go see the gardens yourself, then drive out to Swartz Bay and take the ferry to Tsawassen, then drive over to Vancouver, but you'd want to check out rental prices. I know Enterprise will pick you up at the Victoria Clipper ferry terminal.

If you're flying into Vancouver, you'd probably want to try something like the Royal Victoria Excursion and leave out the overnight--however, this makes for a LOONG day--I wouldn't make any big plans for the evening before or the morning after. You can also make the trip to Tsawassen and drive it yourself in a rental, but again, it's a long day and would make for a tired driver.

For a decent sized group, in terms of comfort, it's better to take the clipper and/or tour, but for cheapness, probably better to cross into Canada then rent a car. It depends upon what you want.
 
We are staying in Victoria for a few days after the cruise. Any idea how to get to Buchart Gardens from downtown Vctoria? I know there are bus trips, but not sure who to contact.

If you're actually staying in Victoria and have three-four people (or more) in your group, you'd probably be better off calling a taxi and taking the taxi out to Butchart--depending upon the time of day, the cost is about $35-$45 each way (at least it was the last time I went). If you want to do a fancy tea in Victoria, Butchart is the place to do it (although the Empress Hotel is better known), however we prefer to eat in the Blue Poppy Restaurant (a quick service place). The food is very good, and it often has a view of the indoor garden.
 
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We're taking Amtrak from Seattle to Vancouver the day before the cruise and staying at Pan Pacific so will really only have one afternoon/evening in Vancouver. Can anyone recommend where we might want to go to get a taste from Vancouver? DM will be with us and she doesn't like to walk too far so cab or bus may need to be involved.

Thanks for any suggestions!
 
We are staying in Victoria for a few days after the cruise. Any idea how to get to Buchart Gardens from downtown Vctoria? I know there are bus trips, but not sure who to contact.

We are staying in Victoria before the cruise and here are a couple of options we found:

http://bigbusvictoria.ca/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1 (Buchart is an add on option)

http://www.pacificcoach.com/Sightseeing-Tours/Victoria

The third option was Greyline, but they went out of business in Victoria last month.

We ultimately decided to rent a car. We're staying at the Empress Hotel downtown and there's a Budget rental office next door. The rate we got was $75 CAD including tax. The office closes around 7pm so you'll need to include overnight parking fees if you plan to keep the car later, which you might want to do since the Gardens are open until 10 pm in the summer. Here's a link to various driving itineraries from the Buchart site:

http://www.butchartgardens.com/planning-your-visit/suggested-itineraries/suggested-itineraries.html

Hope that helps!
 
I keep reading great things about Butchart Gardens in Victoria. We are staying at the Fairmont Pacific Rim for four nights before the cruise. Would it be worth the long day trip to Victoria?

Has anyone done it?

Any recommendations on the best way?

Thanks!

Pacific Coach has a day tour from downtown Vancouver to Victoria that includes a visit to Buchart Gardens:

http://www.pacificcoach.com/Sightseeing-Tours/Vancouver/Royal-Victoria-Excursion

But you should know that it will take you about 4 hours to get from Vancouver to Victoria, so it's 8 hours of total travel time. You have to include getting from the city centers to the ferry terminal and the ferry ride itself (which is 95 minutes) so that's a lot of traveling time. Another option is a tour via floatplane or helicopter (only 35 minutes travel time each way), but I'm not sure what your budget is as they can be a bit pricey. But if you're intersted, I have some info on that and the pro's and con's of floatplane vs. helicopter rides.

Good luck!
 
We are staying in Victoria for a few days after the cruise. Any idea how to get to Buchart Gardens from downtown Vctoria? I know there are bus trips, but not sure who to contact.

There is public transport, taxi and CruiseVictoria has tours as well as transport only. We went to Buchart from Victoria in early May and didn't realize that there were a variety of options with Cruise Victoria. We ended up a little behind for our other plans and took a taxi ($45) instead of planned public transport. Turns out that Cruise Victoria has tours departing near the Empress as well as one way only transportation to Buchart. We found out about the one way transportation when we got to Buchart and it would have been a much better deal than the taxi (I think it was under $15 a person). Enjoy your time at Buchart - it was a nice way to spend part of the day.

Pam
 
I emailed shoreside concierge and found out that our prestay at the Fairmont Pacific Rim does include breakfast. Please note that this is a DCL prestay, not ABD.
Oh that is good to know, we have the Pacific Rim booked before our July 19th cruise.

I keep reading great things about Butchart Gardens in Victoria. We are staying at the Fairmont Pacific Rim for four nights before the cruise. Would it be worth the long day trip to Victoria?

Has anyone done it?

Any recommendations on the best way?

Thanks!
We are doing this tour to Victoria and Butchart Gardens:

http://www.vancouvertours.com/victoria-tour-details
 
Is there an address which we can use to send a box ahead to our stateroom?

I suggest emailing DCL to ask this question since you are dealing with an international package delivery. Haven't seen anyone mention mailing a box ahead of sailing.
 
We are taking the Amtrack the day before too. We get in about 11. Look up Vancouver Trolley. If you buy tickets online you get 2 days of tickets for the price of one. We are touring the afternoon and evenign the day before we leave for the cruise and then we have the day after we get back because we are taking the evening train. It is a narrated trolly ride where you get on and off at any stop you want. They have trolleys running until aout 6 and they are each stp about every 15-20 minutes.
 
Pacific Coach has a day tour from downtown Vancouver to Victoria that includes a visit to Buchart Gardens:

http://www.pacificcoach.com/Sightseeing-Tours/Vancouver/Royal-Victoria-Excursion

But you should know that it will take you about 4 hours to get from Vancouver to Victoria, so it's 8 hours of total travel time. You have to include getting from the city centers to the ferry terminal and the ferry ride itself (which is 95 minutes) so that's a lot of traveling time. Another option is a tour via floatplane or helicopter (only 35 minutes travel time each way), but I'm not sure what your budget is as they can be a bit pricey. But if you're intersted, I have some info on that and the pro's and con's of floatplane vs. helicopter rides.

Good luck!

Thanks for the help, let me check with DH! Just wondering if Butchart Gardens is worth that travel time.
 
We are taking the Amtrack the day before too. We get in about 11. Look up Vancouver Trolley. If you buy tickets online you get 2 days of tickets for the price of one. We are touring the afternoon and evenign the day before we leave for the cruise and then we have the day after we get back because we are taking the evening train. It is a narrated trolly ride where you get on and off at any stop you want. They have trolleys running until aout 6 and they are each stp about every 15-20 minutes.

We purchased our trolley tickets at our hotel. I believe the two days for the price of one is their standard rate, as we received that the day we bought our tickets at our hotel. They were well worth it, though!! :)
 
Thanks for the help, let me check with DH! Just wondering if Butchart Gardens is worth that travel time.

It is a lot of traveling time, and with this particular tour package you will only get 2 hours at the garden (but that actually seems to be the standard amount of time with many of the various tour operators). The tour then drops you off at Victoria harbour downtown for some sightseeing there. I think the gardens and the harbour are both utterly charming. Downtown Victoria is more European in flavor than a lot of cities in Europe! The first time I visited Victoria, it was a very rushed visit - mostly because I didn't know very much about it and didn't allot enough time. I felt like I only brushed the surface, but it was enough for me to know that I definitely wanted to return and spend some quality time there. Having said all that, Vancouver is a wonderful city as well with a different feel so you can't go wrong spending time in either city.
 

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