Using Someone Elses' Pass

[elastigirl]

as far as the just asking question, why they ask that, and i dont know what your answer was, but this is what the person told me on last visit.......

if your at one park (we were at mgm) and you leave very shortly there after (we walked in to see the usual 80+ min wait for toy story and it was late anyways) and go to another park and it its in a short amount of time (we walked from mgm to epcot on the boardwalk, slow pace only 30 min, fast about 25), then it wont accept it bc the system is thinking your in this one park, and your trying to use your pass at another.

idk, just what the guy told me when my pass, my wifes pass and my daughters wouldnt work at the last visit but they worked about 30 min earlier at mgm.

if they saw you had season passes, and you said it was recent, then that could be why. they said it can also happen if you leave then try to come back in real quick.

I've been stopped and questioned before. One day at DHS after we went in, I realized I forgot the umbrella I meant to bring. So the rest of my party went ahead and I ran back out to the rental car to grab it. On my second entry, the machine wouldn't take my ticket and the CM asked me what was up. He must have believed I wasn't trying to get in with a fraudulent ticket, and let me in. But the machine did tell him something about my quick reentry.

 

[doconeill]

I've been stopped and questioned before. One day at DHS after we went in, I realized I forgot the umbrella I meant to bring. So the rest of my party went ahead and I ran back out to the rental car to grab it. On my second entry, the machine wouldn't take my ticket and the CM asked me what was up. He must have believed I wasn't trying to get in with a fraudulent ticket, and let me in. But the machine did tell him something about my quick reentry.

More than likely just an extra check in case someone figures out the finger scans are off that day and tried to pass a ticket back to someone to use again...

 

[skiwindham]

So what happens if you can't produce a photo ID?

I often enter the park without a wallet, carrying only my chargeable room card and a few dollars.

Seems to hard to think they would deny someone entry because the fingerprint scan didn't recognize you and the custimer didn't have photo ID, doesn't it?

But if they do allow entry, then that would in effect turn the AP into a transferrable AP.

Anyone seen or heard anyone being turned away because they didn't have photo ID? Or is any ID (without photo) acceptable at this Happy Place?

 

[BradyBz12]

Seems to hard to think they would deny someone entry because the fingerprint scan didn't recognize you and the custimer didn't have photo ID, doesn't it?

Not really, since that's exactly the scenario that would likely take place if someone were intentionally trying to get in using someone else's ticket - i.e., if they bought partially used tix off eBay or something along those lines.

While they may or may not actually do it, Disney is definitely within their rights not to admit you to the park if they don't believe the ticket you're using is actually yours.

 

[jctwizzer]

In 100+ days at the parks, I've never seen anyone turned away because
their ticket didn't work with the system....invariably they are let in

 

[cassmat]

OMG, I felt like an idiot...

Took the boat from Beach Ckub to Hollywood Studios, it was 615...

Got there, realized I had my son's ticket...he had mine...so 2 choices, tell the truth. and hope for the best..or go back to the room...which would have taken too long.

Explained the situation to the gatekeeper and he said try it and see, whoo..it was ok...

 

[Princess Disney Mom]

Well my sister went to Guest services to figure out how many left days on her 10 day hopper at the SOG when the card was scanned the lady said there was also a picture coded on the card of her using it.

 

[seashoreCM]

I would not be surprised if there are hidden cameras above the turnstiles that take pictures of guests, although probably not more than one or two could be saved for each ticket on file given the quantity of data (kilobytes) even a small picture consumes. (Information is stored in central computers, not on the ticket card itself.)

 

[Robo]

when the card was scanned the lady said there was also a picture coded on the card of her using it.

I would not be surprised if there are hidden cameras above the turnstiles that take pictures of guests...

 

[doconeill]

In 100+ days at the parks, I've never seen anyone turned away because
their ticket didn't work with the system....invariably they are let in

Well, everything works for a great majority of people anyways, and very few would be using incorrect (accidentally or on purpose) tickets, so it would be rare that someone would be turned away anyways. My DFiL DID get rejected, but that was because a CM failed to entitle his KTTW correctly...and he almost got rejected for failing the fingerprint scanner until he remembered which finger he used - which WASN'T the ones the CMs kept telling him to use.

It is far more common (and still a very small percentage) to see people getting rejected because of failed tickets (happened to me when my AP flaked out). But then again, if you aren't right there at the time, you really don't know why they are being rejected.

As said before, it can come down to the tolerance of the CM, and Disney may have as a whole become more forgiving in the interest of just getting people through the parks, so long as the ticket is valid. But they CAN reject you and ask you to produce ID or have to go to Guest Relations to get it straightened out.

Well my sister went to Guest services to figure out how many left days on her 10 day hopper at the SOG when the card was scanned the lady said there was also a picture coded on the card of her using it.

As SeashoreCM said it is POSSIBLE for them to retain an image (not on the card, but in the computers), but that is a LOT of information, and at least currently there is no convenient way for the CMs to check that information at all, and with hidden cameras it would likely be a lousy image of little use in this regard. If you got rejected and they made you go to GR, they could probably pull up the image (if one existed) and then if there is something obvious different, you could have an issue.

 

[Eljay]

I would not be surprised if there are hidden cameras above the turnstiles that take pictures of guests, although probably not more than one or two could be saved for each ticket on file given the quantity of data (kilobytes) even a small picture consumes. (Information is stored in central computers, not on the ticket card itself.)

Seems like the majority of that type of pictures would be useless anyway. A blurry picture of an average sized guy in a ball cap and sunglasses doesn't tell you much.

 

[skiwindham]

It seems Disney gives guests the benefit of the doubt about accidentally using someone else's pass.

Kudos to them.

Unfortunately, that could also permit cheating by the unscrupulous.

So i'm surprised to hear more people haven't encountered cheating episodes.

Guess WDW guests are score higher on the honesty scale!

 

[A Mickeyfan]

I have had times where my fingers scanner didn't work and they did not ask & then there were times that they did ask for ID. Once we had my DD's friend with us (under 16 and had no ID) and her scanner didn't work at the MK. They refused to let her in. We explained we were there for the weekend & had taken her with us. We had no way of getting her mother to drive 3 hours each way to bring it to us either. They still refused, no ID, she wasn't getting in. We left there, went to MGM (it was called that then ) they scanned her finger, it worked and we went in.

 

[Diznygrl]

Oh, I've had mine reset several times. That finger scan is the bane of my existence. 95% of the time I walk through that thing it has rejected my scan. I had one CM tell me that it was because my "finger is too small" (not sure I believe that, but I don't have any other explanation). Anyway, I was never asked for ID, they just reset it without batting an eye. Could be because I'm really short and young looking so they might be mistaking me for a kid, and therefore not likely to have an ID. I dunno!

I was thinking about using my thumb instead of my index finger next time, but I don't want CMs yelling at me for using the 'wrong' finger!

 

[Cheshire Figment]

There is no "wrong" finger. Many people will use their thumb.

The only thing to do is make sure you remember which finger on which hand you are using. When the ticket is first used is when the system reads and stores the information. The major delays are people who forget which finger or even which hand was used originally.

For example, when I go into any of the Parks as a Guest I am using an ECV. I will always use a turnstile where the pass gate is to the right and I will use my left hand as it is easier.

 

[UConnJack]

Considering they don't scan children's fingerprints, what's to stop people from using different passes between kids?

 

[Robo]

Considering they don't scan children's fingerprints, what's to stop people from using different passes between kids?

Honor.

The same goes for providing a child's correct age regarding ticket purchases.

 

[skiwindham]

Should we take picture ID's with us when going to the parks? The bruises on my fingers will probably cause my annual pass to be rejected when I enter the park. Has anyone been asked to show photo ID when the fingerprint was rejected?

 

[doconeill]

Should we take picture ID's with us when going to the parks? The bruises on my fingers will probably cause my annual pass to be rejected when I enter the park. Has anyone been asked to show photo ID when the fingerprint was rejected?

You can opt to show photo ID instead of doing the finger scan - how well the CMs handle that is another matter. But if you fingers have already been scanned, you will likely need to go to Guest Relations if the scan won't work.

Bruising itself should not matter though.

 

[Cheshire Figment]

Since you have an AP, your name is printed on the pass. If a person's finger scan does not work we will normally ask for a photo ID to check the name matches the pass.